Perpetual Managers Rumours Thread

[CafeCordoba]

I've seen little evidence of this while at Inter.

It's just that it cannot be proven because there happens so much behind the scenes we don't know. Marotta is a respected party around, he was just selected as the federal councelors with Lotito by Serie A (whatever that means). If you are nobody, you are not in the tables where decisions are made.

 

[brightbackground]

I don't get why Simeone keeps getting brought up on FIF. Even if he halved his wage demands we still couldn't afford him. It's as improbable as prime Messi joining us during the banter era. After Atleti he'll either retire or go to EPL.

Hence why I listed him as 'The Dream'. Besides, he's set to renew his Atletico contract until 2024 anyway. All the times he said he would coach Inter one day was just him jerking us around. Or maybe he, like Mourinho, was mortified to see us hire a gobbo di merda.

 

[Nostradamus]

Bruh, i think you know the kind of conditions Nagelsmann has at Liepzig, he's bascially got free rein at the club, he won't get that here. In any case he's EPL bound then Bayern, or the other way around. Personally I think he's still a novice coach lacking experience, sure he plays exciting football but winning titles demands more especially in Italy.

The other way around and Nagelsmann has never made a secret of being a big fan of Bayern since childhood.

The problem of him is Hansi Flick though after his cometlike rise since November 2019. It doesnt look like he could be in danger losing his job in the near future and Nagelsmann has to see how future is panning out.

What is guaranteed though is, that it is absolutely impossible to lure him away next summer..Leipzig has already made it clear he is their coach next season (when Dortmund rumours started) and Nagelsmann is in no rush to leave anyway, as he has contract until 2023

If there is no exit clause for 2022, then it's hard to see Leipzig agreeing to let him leave earlier..he is their chosen one and under no circumstances would they even think about it.

The big question is, what Nagelsmann will do after Leipzig in 2023, with a tiny chance of being able to leave 2022.

I don't share your opinion about him lacking experience. I say feck that overrated experience..u have it or u dont and Nagelsmann clearly has it, u just need to listen to him and how he talks about football..he is the real deal.

 

[rfU]

The other way around and Nagelsmann has never made a secret of being a big fan of Bayern since childhood.

The problem of him is Hansi Flick though after his cometlike rise since November 2019. It doesnt look like he could be in danger losing his job in the near future and Nagelsmann has to see how future is panning out.

What is guaranteed though is, that it is absolutely impossible to lure him away next summer..Leipzig has already made it clear he is their coach next season (when Dortmund rumours started) and Nagelsmann is in no rush to leave anyway, as he has contract until 2023

If there is no exit clause for 2022, then it's hard to see Leipzig agreeing to let him leave earlier..he is their chosen one and under no circumstances would they even think about it.

The big question is, what Nagelsmann will do after Leipzig in 2023, with a tiny chance of being able to leave 2022.

I don't share your opinion about him lacking experience. I say feck that overrated experience..u have it or u dont and Nagelsmann clearly has it, u just need to listen to him and how he talks about football..he is the real deal.

Yeah he's a "scientific" dude, he's proving to an extent that experience doesn't matter (like Tuchel before him). But he's wrong. I have no problem bringing in a Nagelsmann or Tuchel-like coach, prodigies with exciting breakthrough ideas but I'd prefer if he was born / bred in italy or at least familiar with the Italian lifestyle and the intricacies of italian football. A coach like Solari (who don't really rate but wouldn't be the worst idea) or Marcelo Gallardo who could come and quickly settle in Italy. I guarantee a year into his tenure Nagelsmann will push for a return back to Germany (family reasons i.e. wife). Also Liepzig struggle against compact defensive set-ups and they don't know how to win ugly. To win serie a you have to overcome both. That's why I say he lacks experience. How many coaches have said Inter is the hardest coaching job

If you're still super keen on an "out of box" coach, consider Marco Rose (Borussia M) or Jesse Marsch (RB Salzburg), those are at least attainable. Forget about Nagelsmann. But if we're going to get a coach from outside Italy I'd prefer one with winning experience. Klopp and Tuchel won something before leaving Bliga.

Just realized he's just 33. We don't want him to come here and suffer premature baldness or hypertension

 

[DARi0]

Max Allegri suggests Inter found a new role for Christian Eriksen the same way he did with Paulo Dybala at Juventus. ‘He can put the ball wherever he wants.’

The former Juve and Milan coach was a guest on Sky Sport Italia and broke his silence after almost two years.

“Inter, from what I can see outside, especially once they had the chance to work all week following their Champions League exit, they are now capable of challenging for a Champions League quarter-final,” Allegri told Sky Sport Italia.

“Sometimes people say oh you just changed two players, but that’s 20 per cent of the starting XI. They need to be able to find themselves and know the movements. Inter are more consolidated and you can see the difference.”

Antonio Conte used that time to transform Eriksen’s role in the Inter squad, as previously he had been on the verge of an exit as a flop.

“I think with Eriksen, Inter had to do something similar to what I did with Dybala. When he first arrived from Palermo, I told him, you cannot play as a centre-forward at Juventus.

“At Palermo, you were a centre-forward, but you started 50 metres from the goal. You need to go into a deeper role, because otherwise the whole balance of the team will be off.

“Eriksen arrived from the Premier League, where there aren’t as many tactics, they don’t close you down so quickly, you have more space to move in. He can be a trequartista there.

“In Italy, if you move him 10 metres further back, he can put the ball wherever he wants.”

Allegri gentle swipe at Conte regarding his UCL record :trolldad: and praising Eriksen.

Hmmm, is he trying to whore himself in?

 

[rockball]

I would gladly take Allegri over Conte. Sigh

 

[Il Drago]

I would gladly take Allegri over Conte. Sigh

At this stage, yes. But in 2019 Conte was the better option. Conte is great at building teams and challenging for the league title. Much better than Allegri. But if your team already is at a top level in the league and you simply want to go to the next level in Europe then Allegri is the better option. Conte is too tactically inflexible to succeed in Europe. Based on a favorable draw and some reinforcements in the summer, the team could reach top 16 or even quarter finals. But i can't see a Conte team seriously challenging for the CL title.

Anyway, this discussion is completely hypothetical. Conte's future at Inter depends entirely on him. Unless he resigns, he will be the Inter coach next season. From a financial point of view, it makes no sense for him to do so. He won't get a similar salary from any other team. From a sporting point of view though, perhaps this is the best moment to leave Inter if there are no investments in the summer. It will look bad on his cv if there's a repeat of Chelsea next season.

 

[brehme1989]

Why are you suggesting that Allegri is not strong at that?

 

[Il Drago]

Why are you suggesting that Allegri is not strong at that?

Mostly from his time at Milan post 2011/12. Once they sold Ibra and Thiago Silva to PSG, it was basically game over for him. I know Berlusconi didn't really support him in the transfer market but he couldn't prevent Milan's collapse. Their first round in 2012/13 was shocking and they qualified in CL thanks to an impressive second round. Then things got even worse in 2013/14 when he was eventually fired. I realise the sample is really small and the circumstances weren't favorable to Max at all. Just an impression i have.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. We aren't at this stage now. Now we just need to go to the next level and Allegri is great at it.

 

[varmin]

I don't think that Conte will repeat Chelsea's storyline without any investments in the club. Behind his failure there were the players at first place. At Inter, he has very united team so far and the only thing which can break it is to loose the scudetto.
But if we win it and he doesn't get any reinforcements, he might resign if he gets a proper offer aboard. And I meant, some guarantee that the things will go to his way, similar to what happened here.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I was almost sure that if we win Scudetto, Conte will leave in the summer (this was at the end of 2020). Now I'm not so sure anymore after his interview where he talked about a longer-term project. It's very vague still because of the ownership issue and the ramifications of that. If the ownership changes after the season and there isn't much of a mercato budget, I can see Conte wanting to leave. But I also see him wanting to stay with a renewal request obviously as it will be his last contract year starting (the longer term project in mind). I'm also seeing Inter not repeating the same salary levels he has at his current contract.

Allegri would be obviously the easiest choice as the replacement. It's just a hard task for Marotta and co because they cannot do any promises etc. because of the total blackout regarding the ownership. Despite they handle the immediate liquidity crisis with a new loan, I can still see Suning selling the club after the season as a totally possible scenario.

 

[varmin]

I think there are 3 main outcomes for Conte and Inter.
1) if Inter wins the league but Conte doesn't receive a contract extension - he will be pissed and will leave in a first opportunity imo.
2) Inter wins, Conte gets new contract. Here everything is clear. I believe, he will stay even without big transfers as long as we do not sell Lukaku or Barella.
3) Inter loose the scudetto - Conte definitely will want to stay and to prove himself. Not sure about the players and the mngmt thou.

 

[Il Drago]

The only way Conte will get a new contract is if he accepts to reduce his salary at least to around 8m per season. Conte's salary will raise to 13.2m next season. We can't afford paying so much for a coach in our current financial situation.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah I agree with both comments above.

I'm also totally fine Conte staying if he gets a reasonable contract and doesn't start moaning. He hasn't moaned since autumn and it has gone pretty well still (while he hasn't been "himself" as claimed so often). He has built this squad really well and I'd love to see us taking the CL challenge next season with this mentally grown squad.

 

[Bluenine]

I was almost sure that if we win Scudetto, Conte will leave in the summer (this was at the end of 2020). Now I'm not so sure anymore after his interview where he talked about a longer-term project. It's very vague still because of the ownership issue and the ramifications of that.

Conte may have shown some growth in maturity re his public outbursts this season, but I suspect his talk about long term projects is just his way of hinting to the management that he ain't planning to leave this summer without a big golden handshake, just in case Inter decide to start a new project with a lower cost base this summer.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

I doubht he has grown in maturity, as fast as something else turns up then he will go berzerk again.

 

[TheNetworkZ]

Why are you suggesting that Allegri is not strong at that?

I've always had the opinion that Allegri's teams make weird signings but he makes them work for about a season until it's evident that they're just not good enough. Off the top of my head: Kevin Constant, Kevin-Prince Boateng, Roberto Pereyra, Poli, Nocerino, etc.

Conte has brought together a very good squad here and has brought out the best in players like Bastoni, Lukaku, etc. but Allegri is good at making low-cost players work until the club can afford something better and more long-term imo.

 

[PHM1605]

I've always had the opinion that Allegri's teams make weird signings but he makes them work for about a season until it's evident that they're just not good enough. Off the top of my head: Kevin Constant, Kevin-Prince Boateng, Roberto Pereyra, Poli, Nocerino, etc.

Conte has brought together a very good squad here and has brought out the best in players like Bastoni, Lukaku, etc. but Allegri is good at making low-cost players work until the club can afford something better and more long-term imo.

Most of the names related to Milan's financial crisis and free-policy from Galliani era, hardly Allegri's fault. They even had to sell Ibra and Silva to cover the loss. Allegri didn't ask for such mediocrity at Juventus.

"make weird signings but he makes them work for about a season" describes more Conte than Allegri tbh. He chose Eder or Pelle over Insigne or Immobile or made Matri Vucinic worked, similar to Lukaku or Darmian here.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

I've always had the opinion that Allegri's teams make weird signings but he makes them work for about a season until it's evident that they're just not good enough. Off the top of my head: Kevin Constant, Kevin-Prince Boateng, Roberto Pereyra, Poli, Nocerino, etc.

Conte has brought together a very good squad here and has brought out the best in players like Bastoni, Lukaku, etc. but Allegri is good at making low-cost players work until the club can afford something better and more long-term imo.

I disagree, I think how you talk about Allegri on that last sentence is exactly what defines Conte. He had an okay team for juve at the beginning with the likes of vucinic and he made it work. Look at juves title 11/12, look at that team the strikers were basically shit. His wingbacks shit.

Allegri on the other hand needs a well functioned team to make anything happen. On paper, the season 11/12 milan team look way better

 

[TheNetworkZ]

Most of the names related to Milan's financial crisis and free-policy from Galliani era, hardly Allegri's fault. They even had to sell Ibra and Silva to cover the loss. Allegri didn't ask for such mediocrity at Juventus.

"make weird signings but he makes them work for about a season" describes more Conte than Allegri tbh. He chose Eder or Pelle over Insigne or Immobile or made Matri Vucinic worked, similar to Lukaku or Darmian here.

I didn't blame anything on Allegri, not sure where you're getting that from.

In terms of just some of Juventus' mediocre signings under Allegri: Zaza, Hernanes, Rincon, Lemina, Sturaro, and a Matri return. I'm sure there's more but I'll leave it at that. Also Lukaku is a better player than Vucinic and Matri with or without Conte, odd comparison. Both Allegri and Conte certainly do get the best out of not-so-great players but that's what good coaches do anyway, get the best of their players. I just think Allegri can work better with a situation like that.

I disagree, I think how you talk about Allegri on that last sentence is exactly what defines Conte. He had an okay team for juve at the beginning with the likes of vucinic and he made it work. Look at juves title 11/12, look at that team the strikers were basically shit. His wingbacks shit.

Allegri on the other hand needs a well functioned team to make anything happen. On paper, the season 11/12 milan team look way better

His first season at Juventus had a defensive trio of: Chiellini-Bonucci-Barzagli covered by a midfield of Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal. That is an insane starting 6 players, not "an okay team". Lichsteiner under Conte was also a crazy good player under Conte (albeit a cock). I can't really remember who played LWB for them, probably Giaccherini or De Ceglie, so it's their weakest position at the time much like it is ours. I don't think Milan looked any better on paper.