Perpetual Managers Rumours Thread

[Bluenine]

As I said before, I'd honestly take Spalletti back to finish off the season.

This is a ridiculous idea, this coming from me who was one of the very few here who appreciated Spalletti when he was the Inter coach. The way Spalletti left and the subsequent negotiations when he wanted to join Milan, makes this also an unrealistic idea which will thankfully not happen.

Conte had a good first season at Inter, he deserves another season in my book. Lets judge him at the end of the season. If Conte flops, we should go after a top coach next summer who can take us to the next level. We are already above Spalletti's level.

 

[brehme1989]

Conte had a good first season at Inter, he deserves another season in my book. Lets judge him at the end of the season. If Conte flops, we should go after a top coach next summer who can take us to the next level. We are already above Spalletti's level.

We will have 0/2 qualifications to the last 16 of the Champions League under Conte. He flopped.

We aren't really doing any better, we just have a deeper roster which enables us to win against smaller teams, which was Spalletti era, and prior, main difficulty. With big games we have regressed significantly since Spalletti and that's yet another flop right there.

 

[Goldenboyv88]

This is a ridiculous idea, this coming from me who was one of the very few here who appreciated Spalletti when he was the Inter coach. The way Spalletti left and the subsequent negotiations when he wanted to join Milan, makes this also an unrealistic idea which will thankfully not happen.

Conte had a good first season at Inter, he deserves another season in my book. Lets judge him at the end of the season. If Conte flops, we should go after a top coach next summer who can take us to the next level. We are already above Spalletti's level.

it's ok. Hoping that if at the end of the season Conte will fails, Allegri will be still free...

 

[Palacio]

it's ok. Hoping that if at the end of the season Conte will fails, Allegri will be still free...

Allegri and conte are two sides of the same shite coin.

 

[brakbrak]

Allegri and conte are two sides of the same shite coin.

Yea, Allegri is the head and Conte is the tail.

 

[DARi0]

Like it or not, Conte is here to stay, at least until summer, no matter what happens. There is no point of sacking him to keep paying him to sit home. We already do that with Spalletti, remember? No top coach will take over mid-season, so why bother?

Just to re-assure you on this, Marotta reaffirmed the club’s trust in Inter manager Antonio Conte by insisting that everyone is totally united.

“There has always been harmony with Conte, the coach is very demanding, we all know this and that is why we brought him in.
We are always ready for any difficulty and are totally united, but I want to point out that the ship is not in stormy waters.” - Beppe

and he said this BEFORE the win against Borussia Mönchengladbach!

PS: Allegri won NOTHING in Europe, let alone a foreign championship.

 

[Il Drago]

Allegri gave an interview to Times and he had some interesting things to say about how important psychology is for the players:

“A coach should not create anxiety for players. If you start only from your ideas, your credo, and you don’t start from the quality of the human material you have in your hands, I consider that a big mistake.

“The game is decided by players. I agree with other trainers that the team has to have the organisation, and tactics, but it is important that the individual plays well.

“I can see from how a player is running how he feels. “Body language tells you a lot. The same thing when you go to the paddock before a race and you see the horses moving. If you understand horses you can see who’s feeling best. I have this opinion about the similarity of horses and people.

“Racehorses are athletes as well, with the disadvantage that they can’t speak to you! So you have to read the body language.

“The trainer has to be a psychologist. 80 per cent is psychology, 20 per cent is tactics. We need to look in players’ heads because they’re young, they’re ‘children’.

“We need to speak to them every day, know everything about them, understand their problems. The problems of an 18-year-old boy are different from a veteran. When the trainer has to put a player on the bench, it’s important the player has faith in the trainer. The first quality for a coach is psychology.”

He also said this about his next job.

I would like to experience the Premier League,” told The Times. “In Italy, I was in Milan for four years. Five years in Juventus. Now I expect (to work again) in Italy, but it is difficult, or in England.”

 

[delaurentis]

We need to look in players’ heads because they’re young, they’re ‘children’.

Inter is more in the market of buying fathers rather then children (ex. Vidal, Kolarov,...).

 

[nurko]

Why isn't it lively in here?

 

[NimAraya]

Why isn't it lively in here?

Fans lost hope in that young business man from China to be competent enough to make the right decision for "his" club.

 

[brehme1989]

Why isn't it lively in here?

Deep down no one really trusts the management to make the right call here.

 

[Il Drago]

Why isn't it lively in here?

Because no one is expecting Suning to fire Conte. They're doing everything they can to avoid it. They have set the targets ridiculously low because of that and they want to finish the season with Conte at all sporting costs.

 

[nurko]

I know, I know, but let's just stir some fan shit up so we have something to talk about, hope for and look forward to come end of the season.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Inzaghi rumor was interesting. That would continue our 3-5-2.

With him I'd see Eriksen have a spot on the squad and a bigger role in our game.

 

[Vertigo]

No no, I don’t want inzaghi here.. better stick with conte till the end of season then we can contact allegri or pochettino

 

[Nothing]

Inzaghi rumor was interesting. That would continue our 3-5-2.

With him I'd see Eriksen have a spot on the squad and a bigger role in our game.

I don't mind him. At least he has real plan B

 

[Il Drago]

No no, I don’t want inzaghi here.. better stick with conte till the end of season then we can contact allegri or pochettino

Everyone assumes Pochettino and Allegri are still going to be available in the summer but that's far from a certainty. Real, Man Utd and even Barcelona could be looking for a manager soon.

 

[brehme1989]

And everyone pretends like Pochettino is not going to be an experiment. The guy has no real success and has choked in the lousiest PL ever by losing it to Ranieri's relegation side.


I don't buy that he's someone we need. He would work at Barcelona because come on, when shitheads like Valverde and Luis Enrique can work out there, it's not that hard for any decent manager to do something. Real Madrid on the other hand has a weird pressure that is reminiscent of Inter's crazy environment. It's not for everyone indeed. Pochettino doesn't seem dynamic enough to succeed here. I see him do well for a club like Milan though, but "well" just means much better than they have been this decade, but nowhere near as close as the 2000s.

Stay away from Italian managers that aren't named Carlo Ancelotti. Been shouting this for years...

 

[Il Drago]

And everyone pretends like Pochettino is not going to be an experiment. The guy has no real success and has choked in the lousiest PL ever by losing it to Ranieri's relegation side.

He also reached a CL final but you like to pretend it never happened. You also need to take into consideration the club he was coaching. "Lads it's Tottenham" has become a meme for a very good reason.

 

[brehme1989]

He also reached a CL final but you like to pretend it never happened. You also need to take into consideration the club he was coaching. "Lads it's Tottenham" has become a meme for a very good reason.

Yes, he did.

But it's not really as impressive as much as it is a one off. That was his peak and he collapsed soon after. Sure, a cycle ended, but it ended trophyless. His only accolades at Tottenham are three manager of the month awards

He'd be relegated to the Europa League had Inter not choke vs PSV at home.

Got extremely lucky that the Ajax kids choked in the away game when it should have ended in London (could have been 0-2 if that Brazilian kid iirc scored rather than hit the post). Yes, I consider that run a fluke, not a result of hard work. And iirc they beat Man City due to VAR controversy or something.

It's not as if he was a constant performer in Europe. Even Conte with Juventus reached the EL semis (final was held at their stadium) and choked hard there. [Our run last year was sketchy to include as it was done after the season ended with more subs allowed, in one and done games, so it's not fair to compare it with other seasons]. Yet everyone knows that Conte chokes in Europe.

Pochettino's record in Europe with Tottenham is:
2014-15 Europa League, lost in round of 16 to Fiorentina, as the favorites.
2015-16 Europa League, lost in round of 16 to Dortmund, as the outsiders.
2016-17 Champions League, demoted to Europa League in a group with Monaco, Leverkusen and CSKA Moscow. Lost right away in the round of 32 to Gent.
2017-18 Champions League, progressed from group with Real Madrid, Dortmund and APOEL as top team. This was their best performance but Dortmund was terrible, barely achieving a CL spot in Germany that year. Lost to Juventus in the CL round of 16.
2018-19. Champions League, progressed from our group with Barcelona and PSV. Same by the bell (and the ref) in the PSV games that they shouldn't have managed so many points and only progressed at the end because we choked. They beat Dortmund again, who weren't as bad as the previous season, then the City and Ajax games as I mentioned. Didn't watch the final but I heard it was dreadful.
2019-20 Champions League, lost 7-2 at home to Bayern before getting sacked....

While there is some evident progress with time, it feels obvious that this isn't a guy that brings results in Europe.

Anyway, he's going to go to Manchester United probably. He's a better fit there than here. They tolerate underperformance in Europe, for us that's the biggest stage as we've grown to understand that the Scudetto is tainted and relatively worthless. Why do you think Moratti sacked a coach that was winning in Italy and brought Mourinho? Why he then hired Rafa who was a bad league coach but brought success in Europe?