Luciano Spalletti

[visionary]

That being said, it's also true that he could have come up with something in the past two months instead of playing the same fucking line-up week in week out... I know our roster is incomplete, ill-assorted and full of mediocre players, but we're talking about a man who came up with Totti false 9 (ended up winning the golden boot) and when Totti got injured he made it still work with Perrotta... come on, he's paid to get the best out of this bunch of fuckers. And, however mediocre they may be, that doesn't excuse the shitshow we watch every weekend.

Exactly what you said though, this is a guy that brought so much creativity in style to Roma. If he was to find a solution to the team he would have already done it, but it's not so, why? Because our players and management are shit. It's very easy to say from here to bench Candreva, Perisic and put in Karamoh and other youngsters instead months ago but there's alot more towards coaching then just the match itself.

I wouldn't think for a second that Allegri or Conte or Mourinho would have done anything different with the players we've had. It's just impossible with our team. Yes wehave been grinding wins last year and it was more towards our fitness I agree. But Spalletti said it even in September that he wasn't happy with the players we've got but he'll try to make it do and secure CL. He kinda knew this would happened eventually but to blame him personally is just wrong imo.

 

[Harpsabu]

3 more games. If we dont beat benevento, lose to milan and napoli and still playing as poorly as we have been, sack him.

 

[Palacio]

3 more games. If we dont beat benevento, lose to milan and napoli and still playing as poorly as we have been, sack him.

I find it very hard for someone like Spalletti in his current situation to beat or even draw milan, Napoli or even benevento.

 

[JJM]

3 more games. If we dont beat benevento, lose to milan and napoli and still playing as poorly as we have been, sack him.

yes,yes and then we appoint all the FIF experts around here...

 

[Harpsabu]

yes,yes and then we appoint all the FIF experts around here...

Dont care. If we beat benevento and lost to milan and napoli, its what, 2 wins in 14?? And we will be out of europe.

 

[vasilios]

So, as far as I can tell the plan is

1. Fire Spalletti
2. ???
3. Top 4 finish

Seems foolproof

 

[Harpsabu]

So, as far as I can tell the plan is

1. Fire Spalletti
2. ???
3. Top 4 finish

Seems foolproof

I said we will already be out of europe of things go that way. 2 wins in 14 and playing some of the worst football in the league and in the bottom scorers of the last 14 also. Why would he deserve to stay? This team is better than last seasons and pioli lost his job on his bad run. This is worse.

 

[Palacio]

I said we will already be out of europe of things go that way. 2 wins in 14 and playing some of the worst football in the league and in the bottom scorers of the last 14 also. Why would he deserve to stay? This team is better than last seasons and pioli lost his job on his bad run. This is worse.

What did you see so far that gives you any indication (aside from hiring Sabatini) that the Chinese are serious about building a new Inter Milan? The point is we should be blaming ourselves for expecting something from nothing.

 

[vasilios]

I said we will already be out of europe of things go that way. 2 wins in 14 and playing some of the worst football in the league and in the bottom scorers of the last 14 also. Why would he deserve to stay? This team is better than last seasons and pioli lost his job on his bad run. This is worse.

So because we fired Pioli we're obligated to do the same here? That sounds like the kind of Inter logic that's led us to having a dozen different managers since Jose.

If we're giving up on Europe then firing Spalletti makes no sense. For what? So that we can book another suite at Hotel Gallia where we can interview every desperate out of work manager like a reality show. While the likes of Luis Enrique and Blanc's agents don't return our calls and we're left with Mihajlovic, Reja and Delneri. Then we're left paying them to fuck off in 3 months, on top of what we're paying Spalletti and whatever we're paying our next patsy.

The only way firing Spalletti now makes sense is if we are delusional enough to think that someone that's currently available and willing to come will right the ship and get us into the top 4. I have learned to never underestimate the incompetence of Inter management, so nothing would surprise me at this point.

 

[Palacio]

So because we fired Pioli we're obligated to do the same here? That sounds like the kind of Inter logic that's led us to having a dozen different managers since Jose.

If we're giving up on Europe then firing Spalletti makes no sense. For what? So that we can book another suite at Hotel Gallia where we can interview every desperate out of work manager like a reality show. While the likes of Luis Enrique and Blanc's agents don't return our calls and we're left with Mihajlovic, Reja and Delneri. Then we're left paying them to fuck off in 3 months, on top of what we're paying Spalletti and whatever we're paying our next patsy.

The only way firing Spalletti now makes sense is if we are delusional enough to think that someone that's currently available and willing to come will right the ship and get us into the top 4. I have learned to never underestimate the incompetence of Inter management, so nothing would surprise me at this point.

What could be worse than consistently losing points to teams like Genoa? A primevera coach would do a lot better than the incompetenet insecure Spalletti.

 

[Hasan]

Spaletti should stay at any cost but he must react. I know his formation is 4-2-1-3 but we don’t have movement, those players (beside Cancelo and Rafinha) doesn’t know or they’re too lazy to move between lines without ball.

If we will hunt CL than good old Hector Cuper’s 4-4-2 is best option. We have Cancelo who can push from full back position, we have Rafinha who can cover Dalmat/Emre’s role, we have bunch of defensive midfielders, players will be much closer and Icardi will get some help.


———————————————- Icardi ——————
———————— Perisic (Eder) —————————
—- Rafinha ———————————— Karamoh ——
————————- DM ——— DM —————————
— LB ——— Miranda —— Skriniar — Cancelo ——
—————————— Handa ———————————-

We’re so bad on some positions that I cannot even put a name on.

 

[Palacio]

Spaletti should stay at any cost but he must react. I know his formation is 4-2-1-3 but we don’t have movement, those players (beside Cancelo and Rafinha) doesn’t know or they’re too lazy to move between lines without ball.

If we will hunt CL than good old Hector Cuper’s 4-4-2 is best option. We have Cancelo who can push from full back position, we have Rafinha who can cover Dalmat/Emre’s role, we have bunch of defensive midfielders, players will be much closer and Icardi will get some help.


———————————————- Icardi ——————
———————— Perisic (Eder) —————————
—- Rafinha ———————————— Karamoh ——
————————- DM ——— DM —————————
— LB ——— Miranda —— Skriniar — Cancelo ——
—————————— Handa ———————————-

We’re so bad on some positions that I cannot even put a name on.

One thing for sure Spalletti would rather lose his head than change his formation or his favorite starting 11.

 

[Harpsabu]

So because we fired Pioli we're obligated to do the same here? That sounds like the kind of Inter logic that's led us to having a dozen different managers since Jose.

If we're giving up on Europe then firing Spalletti makes no sense. For what? So that we can book another suite at Hotel Gallia where we can interview every desperate out of work manager like a reality show. While the likes of Luis Enrique and Blanc's agents don't return our calls and we're left with Mihajlovic, Reja and Delneri. Then we're left paying them to fuck off in 3 months, on top of what we're paying Spalletti and whatever we're paying our next patsy.

The only way firing Spalletti now makes sense is if we are delusional enough to think that someone that's currently available and willing to come will right the ship and get us into the top 4. I have learned to never underestimate the incompetence of Inter management, so nothing would surprise me at this point.

Because we are unwatchable! We are literally the slowest most boring team in the league. What are they working on in training! The team is literally unwatchable at this point, how does he deserve to stay on current performances. Milan took gattuso and look at them.

 

[Guz]

Exactly what you said though, this is a guy that brought so much creativity in style to Roma. If he was to find a solution to the team he would have already done it, but it's not so, why? Because our players and management are shit. It's very easy to say from here to bench Candreva, Perisic and put in Karamoh and other youngsters instead months ago but there's alot more towards coaching then just the match itself.

I wouldn't think for a second that Allegri or Conte or Mourinho would have done anything different with the players we've had. It's just impossible with our team. Yes wehave been grinding wins last year and it was more towards our fitness I agree. But Spalletti said it even in September that he wasn't happy with the players we've got but he'll try to make it do and secure CL. He kinda knew this would happened eventually but to blame him personally is just wrong imo.

I'm not saying that he's the responsible for our downfall, far from it, but laying all the blame on the players who are shit is a little bit too simplistic imo. If that were the case, indeed, we could have very well saved his wages and let Vecchi coach the team instead. We're all aware of our players' limitations, but what does he expect to happen if he keeps fielding the same line-up over and over again? Will the players miraculously regain their former fitness? Is it really possible that there's no viable tactical solution besides his 4-2-3-1? And finally, it's true he's always complained about the missing pieces in our roster, but the few players who actually joined us this summer were all (most of them, actually) bought upon his personal request. Why would you buy Vecino, who's basically the same player as Gagliardini, when we are so short of money, then?

 

[ADRossi]

Glad to see some of you still don't get it. We've had what 5 or 6 managers the past few years? And how many of those managers were successfully able to change our style of play? How many of them implemented a style of play that was conducive to winning? We are like a broken record who can't be fixed, and its because the thing rotten at the core are the players we're fielding. We could bring in Conte tomorrow, and this team would still be a merry band of underachievers incapable of stringing consecutive passes together.

Spalletti, Pioli, and that twat Mancini have all coached teams to UCL spots in the past, playing vastly different styles of football. Yet in each of their three stops here, this team has looked homogeneous. So who should we be blaming?

 

[visionary]

What could be worse than consistently losing points to teams like Genoa? A primevera coach would do a lot better than the incompetenet insecure Spalletti.

Ok we fire him, get a another coach which will maybe get 5 wins in a row. Then what happens after the 5th game when we go on a losing streak again? Fire this coach and get another one? This has been going on for almost 8 years. Can't you see that the coach is no the problem here?

I'm not saying that he's the responsible for our downfall, far from it, but laying all the blame on the players who are shit is a little bit too simplistic imo. If that were the case, indeed, we could have very well saved his wages and let Vecchi coach the team instead. We're all aware of our players' limitations, but what does he expect to happen if he keeps fielding the same line-up over and over again? Will the players miraculously regain their former fitness? Is it really possible that there's no viable tactical solution besides his 4-2-3-1? And finally, it's true he's always complained about the missing pieces in our roster, but the few players who actually joined us this summer were all (most of them, actually) bought upon his personal request. Why would you buy Vecino, who's basically the same player as Gagliardini, when we are so short of money, then?

It's possible that there is no other viable tactical solution. You can't just throw ducks into the water and hope they paddle the same way. This isn't football manager. There's a reason why most coaches are too stubborn to change their tactics, it just won't work. Have you seen anyone tried to chop and change their tactics midway through the season in Inter?

He might have requested the players because these players are the only one's that fits our poor budget. Who in the right mind would have Valero and Vecino as their top midfielders on their list in August last year? No one. I bet you Spalletti wouldn't even think about these two if he was given a good budget to start with. I repeat, we are a poor team both on the field and financially. Unless someone injects money to this team we aren't going to even compete in europe.

 

[Harpsabu]

Glad to see some of you still don't get it. We've had what 5 or 6 managers the past few years? And how many of those managers were successfully able to change our style of play? How many of them implemented a style of play that was conducive to winning? We are like a broken record who can't be fixed, and its because the thing rotten at the core are the players we're fielding. We could bring in Conte tomorrow, and this team would still be a merry band of underachievers incapable of stringing consecutive passes together.

Spalletti, Pioli, and that twat Mancini have all coached teams to UCL spots in the past, playing vastly different styles of football. Yet in each of their three stops here, this team has looked homogeneous. So who should we be blaming?

Well, Mancini made top 4 and some people were still glad to see him go.
Yes its not just the manager, but LS has tried nothing new in this run and insisted on the same things that we all can see isnt working. Thats why we can say, 3 more games and if things dont improve he should go.

 

[ADRossi]

Well, Mancini made top 4 and some people were still glad to see him go.
Yes its not just the manager, but LS has tried nothing new in this run and insisted on the same things that we all can see isnt working. Thats why we can say, 3 more games and if things dont improve he should go.

Isn't the fact that we've had four managers (with the exception of perhaps de Boer) all play the same style of football damning enough? These coaches aren't idiots. The players are limited and our management is incompetent.

 

[Guz]

It's possible that there is no other viable tactical solution. You can't just throw ducks into the water and hope they paddle the same way. This isn't football manager. There's a reason why most coaches are too stubborn to change their tactics, it just won't work. Have you seen anyone tried to chop and change their tactics midway through the season in Inter?

He might have requested the players because these players are the only one's that fits our poor budget. Who in the right mind would have Valero and Vecino as their top midfielders on their list in August last year? No one. I bet you Spalletti wouldn't even think about these two if he was given a good budget to start with. I repeat, we are a poor team both on the field and financially. Unless someone injects money to this team we aren't going to even compete in europe.

Everything is possible until proven otherwise. I mean, it took months to see Cancelo and eventually it came out he's the best FB we have; it took months to drop Candreva and give Karamoh a shot and the kid won us the only match in two months... Of course, I'm not saying he should change for the sake of changing, but what's the point in sticking to a plan that has stopped working months ago?
Mancini and Mourinho did. Sure they had better players, but still they changed their tactics when they thought they were going nowhere... I just don't buy the whole "the players suck, we can't do nothing about it..." stuff. OK they're no world-beaters but even Crotone and Verona switch tactics occasionally, and their players aren't certainly better than ours...
Well, he wanted Borja when he was still in Rome, so yes, he actually likes him. Of course, I realise that, if he had 300m to spend, he would aim higher than the likes of Borja and Vecino, but that's not the point. The point is if you are poor, why waste money on players you already have (Vecino-Gagliardini) instead of using in to fill the gaps in the roster?
Anyway, I don't want him to be sacked, it would be pointless and certainly it would not solve our problems, but I'm asking him to wake up and (at least try to) fix the team.

 

[vasilios]

Because we are unwatchable! We are literally the slowest most boring team in the league. What are they working on in training! The team is literally unwatchable at this point, how does he deserve to stay on current performances. Milan took gattuso and look at them.

And how watchable were we under Rafa, Gasp, Pioli, Mancini, Strama, De Boer, Ranieri and whoever else I'm forgetting? We've been unwatchable for the last 8 years aside from a brief period of time under Leonardo where we just exchanged our incompetence in attack with incompetence in defense which at least made the matches entertaining.

Spalletti has had a decent level of success with 2 completely different Roma squads, while playing attractive football with completely different tactical setups. So, did he just forget how to coach when he arrived here? Just like several of our previous managers before him? Our squad has talent, especially when compared to some of these provincial squads full of nobodies that we're drawing with and losing to. But honestly Brozovic is the perfect example of what's wrong with this squad. More talented than any no-name dipshit on Genoa, but his inconsistency coupled with his complete refusal to give any fucks makes him a net negative. This club is cancerous. It's not a coincidence that Rafinha and Karamoh are like breaths of fresh air compared with the rest of the squad. Just give it some time.

If you want to end this cycle of madness, the answer isn't to keep doing what we've been doing for years with the same results. Keep Sabatini, keep Spalletti and give them some time to do their thing. If you want to kick Spalletti out to bring in a legitimate superstar coach like Simeone, sure why not. You want to kick him out to bring in Mihajlovic or even everyone's favorite flavor-of-the-week Giampaolo? That's just history repeating itself. Of course if Suning are going to hide behind FFP and CPC spending laws then it doesn't matter what the fuck we do.