Luciano Spalletti

[Javier'sSon]

I really don't get all this hate towards him, regardless of tactics and team selection, Italy are ass and their players are way below par.

 

[ADRossi]

I really don't get all this hate towards him, regardless of tactics and team selection, Italy are ass and their players are way below par.

Firmly disagree with this tbh.

 

[Javier'sSon]

Well it is your national team so it's tough to be objective.

 

[varmin]

I just read one article on Bulgarian, which is most probably translated from Italian medias. And, it says that some of the players were angry with Spalletti, who had changed the tactics just before the match against Spain kicked off. Also, some other players isolated Faggioli, as they thought that he is a snitch.
Could be a media bullshit, but it's fact that something happens there, and the whole team looked not motivated and disconnected on the pitch.

 

[Stefan]

I really don't get all this hate towards him, regardless of tactics and team selection, Italy are ass and their players are way below par.

Compare the players he has with the players Conte had. Overall spaletti has the better squad but much worse results...

 

[PHM1605]

Compare the players he has with the players Conte had. Overall spaletti has the better squad but much worse results...

Spalletti has his faults but his squad isn't stronger tbh. Same shit in attack, good defense. But in the middle it was still enough to field a very good (Jorginho, Veratti, Motta, De Rossi or Bonaventura).

Comparing to current...only Barella is considered high level. Cristante or Fagioli or Frattesi are bench-deserved at best.

 

[Il Drago]

Spalletti has his faults but his squad isn't stronger tbh. Same shit in attack, good defense. But in the middle it was still enough to field a very good (Jorginho, Veratti, Motta, De Rossi or Bonaventura).

Comparing to current...only Barella is considered high level. Cristante or Fagioli or Frattesi are bench-deserved at best.

From those you mention only Motta and De Rossi were in the squad. Instead there were Parolo, Sturaro and Giaccherini.

 

[PHM1605]

From those you mention only Motta and De Rossi were in the squad. Instead there were Parolo, Sturaro and Giaccherini.

I count the qualifier as well. For the campaign Bona and Jorginho were still under Conte availability but he chose not to pick.

For Spalletti they don't exist at all.

 

[Stefan]

Spalletti has his faults but his squad isn't stronger tbh. Same shit in attack, good defense. But in the middle it was still enough to field a very good (Jorginho, Veratti, Motta, De Rossi or Bonaventura).

Comparing to current...only Barella is considered high level. Cristante or Fagioli or Frattesi are bench-deserved at best.

His attack is much better. He had a red hot scammacca going into the tournament but failed to get anything out of him. Raspadori, retegui and Chiesa are much better options then immobile, Pelle, Eder & Zaza.

I count the qualifier as well. For the campaign Bona and Jorginho were still under Conte availability but he chose not to pick.

For Spalletti they don't exist at all.

Spaletti chose take cristante ahead of locatelli...

 

[PHM1605]

His attack is much better. He had a red hot scammacca going into the tournament but failed to get anything out of him. Raspadori, retegui and Chiesa are much better options then immobile, Pelle, Eder & Zaza.

Spaletti chose take cristante ahead of locatelli...

Don't think I agree tbh. You call Scamacca "red hot" but Immobile two-season-after had total 67 goals or 14 assists or something, more than Scamacca in his entire career. While Chiesa obviously lost all the explosiveness after the ACL torn.

 

[Stefan]

Don't think I agree tbh. You call Scamacca "red hot" but Immobile two-season-after had total 67 goals or 14 assists or something, more than Scamacca in his entire career. While Chiesa obviously lost all the explosiveness after the ACL torn.

Immobile was only hot in Serie a, scamacca was hot in Europe + Serie a. Chiesa without his explosiveness is still a better player then any of Zaza, Eder or Pelle.

 

[PHM1605]

Immobile was only hot in Serie a, scamacca was hot in Europe + Serie a. Chiesa without his explosiveness is still a better player then any of Zaza, Eder or Pelle.

Obviously you didn't track, or entirely forgot Immobile at that time. Come on, Spalletti had a shitshow but no need to look down on the previous generation like that.
He was Serie A top striker alongside Icardi or Dzeko. Scoring tons in Europa League too.

 

[Stefan]

Obviously you didn't track, or entirely forgot Immobile at that time. Come on, Spalletti had a shitshow but no need to look down on the previous generation like that.
He was Serie A top striker alongside Icardi or Dzeko. Scoring tons in Europa League too.

Nope didn't forget anything. Ciro's consistent period in European competitions happened post the 2016 euro's. During 2015/2016 he had scored 0 goals in his 4 games in Europe.

Even if we give Ciro being equal to the form scammacca was in prior to the euros. That still leaves the absolute trash that eder, zazza & Pelle were compared to raspadori, Chiesa & retegui.

 

[PHM1605]

Nope didn't forget anything. Ciro's consistent period in European competitions happened post the 2016 euro's. During 2015/2016 he had scored 0 goals in his 4 games in Europe.

Even if we give Ciro being equal to the form scammacca was in prior to the euros. That still leaves the absolute trash that eder, zazza & Pelle were compared to raspadori, Chiesa & retegui.

15/16 or 16/17 doesn't matter. The point is that was the time of peak Immobile. Scamacca cant even tie the boots of prime Immobile, lets put it straight like that.

Wanna play your selective statistic game, still?
- 15/16: Eder/Pelle/Zaza had 41 goals totally.
- 23/24: Chiesa/Retegui/Raspadori had 24 goals. None with double digits.

This striker quality of this generation is the worst since decades, no need to sugarcoat, Spalletti or not.