Luciano Spalletti

[Materazzi_23]

End result, makes absolutely no sense to sack Spalletti in any circumstances (we can't get relegated anymore with 48 points).

Even though the situation at Inter is to cry for, this made me laugh. Our season is already f*cked but at least we can't get relegated.:notbad:

 

[Bluenine]

I remember in his first year at Inter Mourinho tried the 4 2 3 1, saw that it didn't work and switched to 4 3 1 2 for the whole season. The way I see it, it's very obviously the thing we should do now, too.

There are two big differences from then and now:

1. Mourinho had the backing of Moratti on the transfer market. He got the quality players he needed to play his style.

2. More importantly, Mou actually changed Inter's formation too soon, realised his mistake after poor initial results and reverted back to 4-3-1-2. Then he spent big time again next summer and gradually changed the team to play his style.

In Spalletti's case, he started with the more mature approach - not changing the style too much in the beginning, using the continuity in his favour. That is why he started well with Inter, unlike Mou. The problem here is that Suning haven't given him the budget to buy his style of players and we have a very thin squad in terms of quality. Which means Spalletti doesn't have tactical options to grow the squad gradually towards a different style, and hence we have been found out and are struggling now.

Everyone talking about 4-3-1-2 conveniently forgets that we need Rafinha fit and ready to start for that formation to work. That formation will not work with a lazy idiot like Brozovic behind the strikers, that might make things worse. The irony is that once Rafinha is fit to start, even the 4-2-3-1 looks more viable.

We need to do what we did with Mou in his 2nd summer. Give Spalletti a big budget to buy players who can implement his style. If we don't have the budget with no CL, then maybe generate a budget by selling a key player or two. Maybe an Icardi sale will work for us in a similar way the Ibra sale did.

 

[ElDiego22]

IMO, I don't think Inter will finish in top 4 the way performances is going so there's no point keeping Spalletti and slide even further down the table and even miss out on Europa League

I'd say if it stays the same by the time we face Napoli, sack him, let Vecchi take charge for the reminder, and hire Giampaolo since he do well playing good football on a tight budget when it's obvious Suning doesn't want to invest.

 

[firmino]

There are two big differences from then and now:

1. Mourinho had the backing of Moratti on the transfer market. He got the quality players he needed to play his style.

2. More importantly, Mou actually changed Inter's formation too soon, realised his mistake after poor initial results and reverted back to 4-3-1-2. Then he spent big time again next summer and gradually changed the team to play his style.

In Spalletti's case, he started with the more mature approach - not changing the style too much in the beginning, using the continuity in his favour. That is why he started well with Inter, unlike Mou. The problem here is that Suning haven't given him the budget to buy his style of players and we have a very thin squad in terms of quality. Which means Spalletti doesn't have tactical options to grow the squad gradually towards a different style, and hence we have been found out and are struggling now.

Everyone talking about 4-3-1-2 conveniently forgets that we need Rafinha fit and ready to start for that formation to work. That formation will not work with a lazy idiot like Brozovic behind the strikers, that might make things worse. The irony is that once Rafinha is fit to start, even the 4-2-3-1 looks more viable.

We need to do what we did with Mou in his 2nd summer. Give Spalletti a big budget to buy players who can implement his style. If we don't have the budget with no CL, then maybe generate a budget by selling a key player or two. Maybe an Icardi sale will work for us in a similar way the Ibra sale did.

i don't think the first point has any bearing with my post. it's just about accepting that your idea of football might not be what the team needs at the moment. in the match against bologna, result aside, we looked less predictable. we didn't have rafinha in the first half of that match.

as for point 2, again, it's about what Inter needs right now. and what we need now is a short term fix, something that can work until may: champions league is way too important. then spalletti will have a whole summer to work on the game plan.

we can't count on a sophisticated gameplan, but we have a decent amount of technique on the attack and we have two talented midfielders like brozovic and rafinha. so we should use two midfielders for the dirty work (vecino, then either gagliardini or valero), then i'd say brozovic (or rafinha) as a trequartista.

i know this might sound simplistic but the only time we tried it, it worked. might as well try it a second time...

 

[Rasha]

^^ but whats the point ?

i believe whatever formation or tactic you try players will play the same since they dont give a fuck... or half of them dont give a fuck and half is semi retarded so there you go

 

[firmino]

we did win against bologna. of course, i get your point. it's all in spalletti's hands, suning won't even help us in that matter.

we can't blame spalletti for many of the things happening, but if he's any better than the previous coaches, he should start showing it now.

 

[CafeCordoba]

IMO, I don't think Inter will finish in top 4 the way performances is going so there's no point keeping Spalletti and slide even further down the table and even miss out on Europa League

Well there's no point sacking him and tossing the season away. Yet another new coach in the summer and all over again? EL? Fuck that, not interested.

I'd say if it stays the same by the time we face Napoli, sack him, let Vecchi take charge for the reminder, and hire Giampaolo since he do well playing good football on a tight budget when it's obvious Suning doesn't want to invest.

It just doesn't magically change from bad football to good football by changing the coach. The environment affects the situation so much. I don't believe a second Giampaolo would transform this Inter side to playing good football in one summer only because he's doing that in Sampdoria now with limited budget. Here he would have an immediate pressure to win every goddamn match. No time to experiment anything, divas and stars (or so called stars) in the squad you need to win over so that they even listen to you.

 

[ElDiego22]

Our next matches after Benevento are Milan, Napoli home, Sampdoria, and Atalanta away. By that time our season will be long over so we might as well settle for Europa League and a new coach.

Before you jump in, someone like Allegri would change formation and line up if things aren't going well so I can't see how Spalletti couldn't figure it out in more than two months.

 

[visionary]

Our next matches after Benevento are Milan, Napoli home, Sampdoria, and Atalanta away. By that time our season will be long over so we might as well settle for Europa League and a new coach.

Before you jump in, someone like Allegri would change formation and line up if things aren't going well so I can't see how Spalletti couldn't figure it out in more than two months.

I'm not sure why it's too hard for people to realise with the resources we have atm, both players and management, any coach that comes in will have the same problem. THE SAME PROBLEM.

 

[Palacio]

I'm not sure why it's too hard for people to realise with the resources we have atm, both players and management, any coach that comes in will have the same problem. THE SAME PROBLEM.

If our main problem is one of management, where are the threads addressing such major issues? What bothers me the most is issues like management are only raised when Spalletti comes under attack, which he rightly deserves.

 

[Nyall]

IMO, I don't think Inter will finish in top 4 the way performances is going so there's no point keeping Spalletti and slide even further down the table and even miss out on Europa League

I'd say if it stays the same by the time we face Napoli, sack him, let Vecchi take charge for the reminder, and hire Giampaolo since he do well playing good football on a tight budget when it's obvious Suning doesn't want to invest.

That's a really dumb idea. Like possibly one of the stupidest things I've seen on this forum.


From sacking the coach and throwing away the season so that we can challenge for the Europa League and then follow that up by hiring a shitty Italian coach who has never won shit in his career. Was that taken out of Running a mediocre football club for dummies?

 

[M.Adnan]

Handanovic: Perin
D'Ambrosio: Benevento level
Skriniar: Inter level
Ranocchia: Genoa level
Cancelo: Inter level
Valero: Genoa level
Gagliardini: Atalanta level
Vecino: Genoa level
Candreva: Pordenone level
Karamoh: Genoa level due to inexperience
Eder: Genoa level

Do some of you guys NOT see where the problem is? Only TWO players in our line up are Inter level. I'm not counting the goalkeepers since they're both good ones and they don't affect the gameplay.

We're literally fielding a Genoa level team. Why is the result surprising to some of you? Have you seen how our attack completely changed when Rafinha came in? That's because we've upgraded an important role with a Barca level player. It was clear how Cancelo, Rafinha and Karamoh added so much flair, fluidity and confidence in our gameplay when they're connecting on the right side of the pitch. It's simple math. You play smart and talented players, you play better. You play dumbasses like Candreva, you get what you deserve.

What do you expect when your LB is someone like D'Ambrosio who can't control the ball or use his left leg (useless in attack) while they have Laxalt? Yesterday's result was totally normal. In short, Spalletti couldn't do anything. These are the players available to him.

 

[PHM1605]

that example you gave is the stupidest thing i've ever seen. Plus, if you really want to use that as an excuse, LS sets the training schedule so you are technically blaming him for tiring our players out so good call.

I get the whole sticking with a coach, I really do, but LS had made a lot of mistakes and has done nothing to turn the tide in the last 2 months. He has failed to meet expectations for what, 12 games now, with poor performance after poor performance, he has to turn it around or go.

If you haven't played sports it makes no sense to discuss it further. Perisic is playing as a LW, the position which runs almost ALL ALONG THE PITCH and you force him to well-performed for fucking 9 months? Consecutively?

And please do not put words to my mouth to support your argument. Where did I blame Spallo? He did setup the training schedule, then what? Give him ONE left winger and expect Spallo to miraculously make him fit every matches in gym? I am blaming the stupidity from the management, who gave ZERO depth to the squad and expect the CL. And also from the fans like you, who put everything on the coach's shoulder and hope some miracle. Look at our direct opponents. They have Diego Perotti, Schick, Felipe Anderson, Nani as substitution. We have NONE. See the difference?

The blame "He has done nothing to turn the tide" is - worthy. He has done nothing because we have given him nothing. I repeat. NOTHING for tactical flexibility. We reinforced Rafinha and stripped off Joao Mario from him, almost Brozovic too. We brought Vecino and Valero, but sold Banega and Kondog. Every of them offer different characteristics to turn things around. We need all of them, not replace one-by-one and call it a good work.

If you still think Spallo should leave (if etc.), ok fine, please name me a better replacement. Even with Mourinho or Pep Guardiola, or Sir AF, good luck to reach CL with a bench of Pinamonti, Emmers, Lombardino, Dalbert, Brozo, and a half-full Rafinha

Before you jump in, someone like Allegri would change formation and line up if things aren't going well so I can't see how Spalletti couldn't figure it out in more than two months.

Allegri bench is better than our starting lineup. We could not change formation and lineup if we have NO players for another formation/ lineup. How is that too hard to see :chan:

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Nice one PHM1605. More of those posts plx

 

[Harpsabu]

If you haven't played sports it makes no sense to discuss it further. Perisic is playing as a LW, the position which runs almost ALL ALONG THE PITCH and you force him to well-performed for fucking 9 months? Consecutively?

And please do not put words to my mouth to support your argument. Where did I blame Spallo? He did setup the training schedule, then what? Give him ONE left winger and expect Spallo to miraculously make him fit every matches in gym? I am blaming the stupidity from the management, who gave ZERO depth to the squad and expect the CL. And also from the fans like you, who put everything on the coach's shoulder and hope some miracle. Look at our direct opponents. They have Diego Perotti, Schick, Felipe Anderson, Nani as substitution. We have NONE. See the difference?

The blame "He has done nothing to turn the tide" is - worthy. He has done nothing because we have given him nothing. I repeat. NOTHING for tactical flexibility. We reinforced Rafinha and stripped off Joao Mario from him, almost Brozovic too. We brought Vecino and Valero, but sold Banega and Kondog. Every of them offer different characteristics to turn things around. We need all of them, not replace one-by-one and call it a good work.

If you still think Spallo should leave (if etc.), ok fine, please name me a better replacement. Even with Mourinho or Pep Guardiola, or Sir AF, good luck to reach CL with a bench of Pinamonti, Emmers, Lombardino, Dalbert, Brozo, and a half-full Rafinha


Allegri bench is better than our starting lineup. We could not change formation and lineup if we have NO players for another formation/ lineup. How is that too hard to see :chan:

that's what you said though, run for 7 days, its Spalo that's making him do that. Also, if you want to argue about why he is injured, he was running with one shoulder, Karamoh on the pitch and candreva on the bench, why couldn't he put candreva on?

Turn the tide is laugh worthy?? How is it? Whats the fkn point of a manager then? How many people have come out and said its up to LS to turn it around? It's not to play the same players game in game out in the exact same formation and hope for the best. This formation isn't working and it's clear that it is not working. We are playing the same stupid crossing game into Eder. Look at Milan again for an example. They are pretty much the same team but are being played in a different formation rather than 3 at the back.

I get it from everyone I really do and part of me as well doesn't want to go down the route of new managers etc, but we can't be content with failure and that is what we are going towards.

 

[Adriano@10]

I m still a fan of spallo and think he s a very good coach and i know fiering him would be one of the stupidest things we could do.
But i just cant fucking help it but to think that if fucking BBilan with gattuso as their coach ends the season ahead of us than he deserves the fucking boot.
I was jokingly discussing that with a friend of mine back when we were still wining and had like 15 points on BBilan. He was like under what circumstances would you fire Spallo and my answer was if we somehow manage to end up below BBilan at the end of the season. Ofcourse back than i saw zero chance of that happening despite never believing the scudo hype.
The fact that now i m genuinely worried of bbilan overtaking us speaks fucking volumes.

 

[Nyall]

I get it from everyone I really do and part of me as well doesn't want to go down the route of new managers etc, but we can't be content with failure and that is what we are going towards.

Having priorities and understanding that our players and our management are far bigger issues than Spalletti does not mean anyone is content with him.


We've had enough coaches and Inter needs to hop off the coaching carousel. Spalletti is a great coach. We're not finding someone better, and no other top coach would stand for Suning and their bullshit.

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I m still a fan of spallo and think he s a very good coach and i know fiering him would be one of the stupidest things we could do.
But i just cant fucking help it but to think that if fucking BBilan with gattuso as their coach ends the season ahead of us than he deserves the fucking boot.
I was jokingly discussing that with a friend of mine back when we were still wining and had like 15 points on BBilan. He was like under what circumstances would you fire Spallo and my answer was if we somehow manage to end up below BBilan at the end of the season. Ofcourse back than i saw zero chance of that happening despite never believing the scudo hype.
The fact that now i m genuinely worried of bbilan overtaking us speaks fucking volumes.

They spent in the summer, addressed a lot of their issues and eventually they found their form. Before a ball was kicked, they were expected to finish above us, if they actually do, you should not be surprised.

 

[syrus]

The last thing we need right now is a new manager,. Especially while we are on a shit run of form.. can the people who are rooting for Spalleti to be sacked , please nominate a better replacement who is currently eligible to take over ?
I am seriously curious?

 

[pazza moratti]

The last thing we need right now is a new manager,. Especially while we are on a shit run of form.. can the people who are rooting for Spalleti to be sacked , please nominate a better replacement who is currently eligible to take over ?
I am seriously curious?

I would go for Blanc and in the summer he was my second choise after Simeone witch was unrealistic. But maybe its better to continue with Spalletti and wait that he resigns at end of the season?

 

[Ziyad]

He shouldn't be sacked. Players need to know that they just can't give up and blame the coach. It didn't work with the previous coaches so let's learn.also Going thru tough times builds character and will be good for these overpaid dimwits.

also we need a coach that understand the environment in and around the club. Just like a new player arriving in Italy that takes time,especially that we have a chaotic environment at inter. Spaletti needs to understand the chaos here and maybe help solve the problems so that next year this time we don't have the same problems.