Luciano Spalletti

Where will Spalletti lead us this season?


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We’re talking about firing Spaletti but I am pretty sure that he will resign at the end of the season if Chinese won’t bring serious money for transfers on the table.
 

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If I can sit through Mazzarri and his long balls to palacio I can handle this for a little while longer.


What I want to know is why we always end up resorting to mindless crosses. Mancini never did it at City and neither spaletti at Roma.
 

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And how watchable were we under Rafa, Gasp, Pioli, Mancini, Strama, De Boer, Ranieri and whoever else I'm forgetting? We've been unwatchable for the last 8 years aside from a brief period of time under Leonardo where we just exchanged our incompetence in attack with incompetence in defense which at least made the matches entertaining.

Spalletti has had a decent level of success with 2 completely different Roma squads, while playing attractive football with completely different tactical setups. So, did he just forget how to coach when he arrived here? Just like several of our previous managers before him? Our squad has talent, especially when compared to some of these provincial squads full of nobodies that we're drawing with and losing to. But honestly Brozovic is the perfect example of what's wrong with this squad. More talented than any no-name dipshit on Genoa, but his inconsistency coupled with his complete refusal to give any fucks makes him a net negative. This club is cancerous. It's not a coincidence that Rafinha and Karamoh are like breaths of fresh air compared with the rest of the squad. Just give it some time.

If you want to end this cycle of madness, the answer isn't to keep doing what we've been doing for years with the same results. Keep Sabatini, keep Spalletti and give them some time to do their thing. If you want to kick Spalletti out to bring in a legitimate superstar coach like Simeone, sure why not. You want to kick him out to bring in Mihajlovic or even everyone's favorite flavor-of-the-week Giampaolo? That's just history repeating itself. Of course if Suning are going to hide behind FFP and CPC spending laws then it doesn't matter what the fuck we do.

I just want to say that this is an awesome post and the last sentence is why Inter as a club and Spalletti as a coach are well and truly fucked.
 

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And how watchable were we under Rafa, Gasp, Pioli, Mancini, Strama, De Boer, Ranieri and whoever else I'm forgetting? We've been unwatchable for the last 8 years aside from a brief period of time under Leonardo where we just exchanged our incompetence in attack with incompetence in defense which at least made the matches entertaining.

Spalletti has had a decent level of success with 2 completely different Roma squads, while playing attractive football with completely different tactical setups. So, did he just forget how to coach when he arrived here? Just like several of our previous managers before him? Our squad has talent, especially when compared to some of these provincial squads full of nobodies that we're drawing with and losing to. But honestly Brozovic is the perfect example of what's wrong with this squad. More talented than any no-name dipshit on Genoa, but his inconsistency coupled with his complete refusal to give any fucks makes him a net negative. This club is cancerous. It's not a coincidence that Rafinha and Karamoh are like breaths of fresh air compared with the rest of the squad. Just give it some time.

If you want to end this cycle of madness, the answer isn't to keep doing what we've been doing for years with the same results. Keep Sabatini, keep Spalletti and give them some time to do their thing. If you want to kick Spalletti out to bring in a legitimate superstar coach like Simeone, sure why not. You want to kick him out to bring in Mihajlovic or even everyone's favorite flavor-of-the-week Giampaolo? That's just history repeating itself. Of course if Suning are going to hide behind FFP and CPC spending laws then it doesn't matter what the fuck we do.

Great post, i agree with you on not settling for any other mediocre coach but someone like a Simeone thats a great point as well. And cleaning house is a must for the summer

Eder, Rannochia, Santon should be the first to go
All the loaned out players should be sold permanently
An argument can be made about selling Dalbert, Brozovic, Galliardini, Veccino, Valero
There is talk about Perisic and Icardi but i would keep both of them or maybe sell one of them if its a huge offer. I would actually be more inclined to let Icardi go since he would bring in more money and it would force Inter to find a good replacement and a new worthy captain.

I said this before about Spalletti and i will say it again,

Spalletti is a good coach, he did well with Udine and with Roma where he was close to the Scudetto and won some cup titles, but then he competed in the Russian league at a time where his experience in England or Italy would have worked better for him as a coach, and then he came back to Roma and still didn't win anything. This is not someone who has a track record of winning trophies left and right with a proven system at big clubs.

So i am fine with him coming in and improving himself and making Inter a better club and maybe in 2-3 years win something important and making that next step to being a top coach. But you cant do that if you are not willing to make changes and by changing nothing the last 8 matches this is where it has lead him. I am talking about simple things like playing other players, giving younger players more minutes, making subs earlier in games or based on conceding a goal or failing to score.

Whats the message you are sending to the squad when you keep playing players that are not performing? Why not try ur new CB for a change instead of playing a player who for the last 8 years has underperformed? How long did it take for Cancelo to even get a game? And then when he plays well he is a sub the next game. I mean come on.
 
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People who blamed Spalletti are going on full retard mode. Let me answer some of your arguments

- "Why wouldn't Spallo try something other than 4-2-3-1, such as 4-3-1-2?"

We provide Spallo with ZERO tactical flexibility. Please don't compare with Jose when he dumped both Mancini and Quaresma to switch to a non-winger formation. At that time we still have Crespo, Adriano, Balotelli or Julio Cruz to be partner with Ibra. We have Deki, Muntari as sub if one of the midfielders not performing.

Now if we do the same, dump both Candreva, Perisic, then what? Pray for NONE of Eder-Gags-Brozo-Vecino-Valero getting injured or underperforming? Our most technical wide midfielder (Joao Mario), the only one who can recover the balls (Kondo) and the only deadly passer (Banega) were sold. That means we tied Spallo hand with ONE formation; period.

- "Why don't Spallo start Rafinha?"

Our squad is thin, ok fine, lets make it thinner by let a long-term-injured player compete with butchers while the latter is still fresh :yao: . Rafinha isn't capable of playing 90 minutes. Did you see the huge scar on his right leg?

- "Boring football, unwatchable, little movements bla bla bla"

Sorry please try to run on treadmill one hour everyday, in one week, and see what happens to your lungs/legs on the 7th day. Last match was the obvious answer for our squad depth. Pero injured, then the only solution is Spallo himself playing there :yao:

Some are even panic enough to set their standard to Gattuso? :lol: Really? You guys forget Stramaccioni?
Not to mention, our bench comparing to Bbilan's is a huge joke.

In conclusion, our squad depth is shit, our coach quality is without doubt, our starters when fresh are good enough for a top spot. LETS MAKE THEM FRESH BY GIVING THEM TIME TO REST. NOT FIRING THE MOST RELIABLE MAN OUT THERE. Idiot.
 

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Most of your points are right. However, its the coach duty to keep the motivation up after you lost.. We should've been okay with this lost against genoa if we managed to beat SPAL and crotone.

we would've beaten SPAL and crotone if perisic were his former self
 
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What I want to know is why we always end up resorting to mindless crosses. Mancini never did it at City and neither spaletti at Roma.

I honestly ask myself this every weekend. It's either desperation - easiest way to get the ball in the box and hope for good things to happen - or lack of proper alternatives developed in training.
 

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That is exactly what I have been talking about, very well articulated by Vasilios. If we give Spalletti+Sabatini some time and investment, we know they are competent to turn this club around. They have a track record. There is absolutely no reason to continue this madness of sacking coaches every 6 months.

We all know Suning did not invest as planned last summer. CL football looked unlikely because of that, and all the talk was of how "Spalletti is our best transfer". But Spalletti has to make do with a squad that does not suit him, that too a very thin squad with few tactical options. Its like a player who has been playing out of position, we haven't seen what Spalletti is capable of at Inter yet.

We need to stop abandoning projects at the first sign of trouble, and let the coach work himself out of this slump. It also lets the players know that Spalletti is the boss and that ain't changing, so either they do as he says or get the fuck out. That is the only way of developing a winning cycle. It is likely that Spalletti will work his way out of this slump this season, and if we doesn't, Inter should let him make significant changes in the summer to construct a squad which suits his style. IMO Spalletti is good enough a coach for us to give him 2-3 seasons before we judge him, it is unlikely we will get a better coach than him at this stage.
 
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Here at Inter, sacking a coach is like hitting a reset button in your computer when it is hung or stuck for some reason. Sure it works for a while, until the same problem kicks in again. I can understand why they do that. Easy workaround that fixes the issue temporarily. The cost is almost negligible.
However, now it's time to get to the bottom of it, find out the root cause of the problem. If we have to replace the processor/motherboard/gpu, then do it. Though, it all depends on whether the owner (Suning) has the resources and willingness. At this point, I don't believe they do. Hopefully they are at least smart enough not to repeat this cycle again, and, if they have to, hand us over to someone else who are capable of that. I don't want this club to end up in a junkyard.
 

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People who blamed Spalletti are going on full retard mode. Let me answer some of your arguments

- "Why wouldn't Spallo try something other than 4-2-3-1, such as 4-3-1-2?"

We provide Spallo with ZERO tactical flexibility. Please don't compare with Jose when he dumped both Mancini and Quaresma to switch to a non-winger formation. At that time we still have Crespo, Adriano, Balotelli or Julio Cruz to be partner with Ibra. We have Deki, Muntari as sub if one of the midfielders not performing.

Now if we do the same, dump both Candreva, Perisic, then what? Pray for NONE of Eder-Gags-Brozo-Vecino-Valero getting injured or underperforming? Our most technical wide midfielder (Joao Mario), the only one who can recover the balls (Kondo) and the only deadly passer (Banega) were sold. That means we tied Spallo hand with ONE formation; period.

- "Why don't Spallo start Rafinha?"

Our squad is thin, ok fine, lets make it thinner by let a long-term-injured player compete with butchers while the latter is still fresh :yao: . Rafinha isn't capable of playing 90 minutes. Did you see the huge scar on his right leg?

- "Boring football, unwatchable, little movements bla bla bla"

Sorry please try to run on treadmill one hour everyday, in one week, and see what happens to your lungs/legs on the 7th day. Last match was the obvious answer for our squad depth. Pero injured, then the only solution is Spallo himself playing there :yao:

Some are even panic enough to set their standard to Gattuso? :lol: Really? You guys forget Stramaccioni?
Not to mention, our bench comparing to Bbilan's is a huge joke.

In conclusion, our squad depth is shit, our coach quality is without doubt, our starters when fresh are good enough for a top spot. LETS MAKE THEM FRESH BY GIVING THEM TIME TO REST. NOT FIRING THE MOST RELIABLE MAN OUT THERE. Idiot.

that example you gave is the stupidest thing i've ever seen. Plus, if you really want to use that as an excuse, LS sets the training schedule so you are technically blaming him for tiring our players out so good call.

Look, sticking by the coach is all well and good, but what I am saying is if we get 3 points from our next 3 games he should go. We have seen NO IMPROVEMENT in the last two months, zero. LS was happy to get all the credit when things were going well at the start, so he can take his share of the blame. A couple of our 1-1 draws he always went defensive and we conceded. At home to fucking Crotone, he went defensive with a 1-0 lead even after we had blew the same position twice in the last few weeks. He has been performing terribly!

I get the whole sticking with a coach, I really do, but LS had made a lot of mistakes and has done nothing to turn the tide in the last 2 months. He has failed to meet expectations for what, 12 games now, with poor performance after poor performance, he has to turn it around or go.
 

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If I can sit through Mazzarri and his long balls to palacio I can handle this for a little while longer.


What I want to know is why we always end up resorting to mindless crosses. Mancini never did it at City and neither spaletti at Roma.


My theory to this mindless crossing was that Suning told him Icardi cannot be benched no matter what.That expalined his comments about playing the same 4-2-3-1 because it brought the best out of Icardi.Nevermind that he needs to bring the best out of the whole 11 and not 1 chap.

But then with Eder we do the same inane cross to the box all the time as well.So it cant be the aforementioned.

Not a single defence splitting pass has been made by any midfielder resulting in the forward running on and scoring recently.I cant remember the last time any of our midfielders played a perfect through ball to the forward either tbh :chan:.

Strange stuff.
 

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that example you gave is the stupidest thing i've ever seen. Plus, if you really want to use that as an excuse, LS sets the training schedule so you are technically blaming him for tiring our players out so good call.

Look, sticking by the coach is all well and good, but what I am saying is if we get 3 points from our next 3 games he should go. We have seen NO IMPROVEMENT in the last two months, zero. LS was happy to get all the credit when things were going well at the start, so he can take his share of the blame. A couple of our 1-1 draws he always went defensive and we conceded. At home to fucking Crotone, he went defensive with a 1-0 lead even after we had blew the same position twice in the last few weeks. He has been performing terribly!

I get the whole sticking with a coach, I really do, but LS had made a lot of mistakes and has done nothing to turn the tide in the last 2 months. He has failed to meet expectations for what, 12 games now, with poor performance after poor performance, he has to turn it around or go.

yes he should leave.. he dont need this shit on his back.. he deserves better

and i blame management for everything thats happening every fucking season being it poor transfer or poor team management .. here players do whatever the fuck they want, because there are no consequences.. no one is going to punish them

maybe we need someone like materazzi to be near all the time to slap the fuck out of them whenever they are acting like a complete dicks
 

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yes he should leave.. he dont need this shit on his back.. he deserves better

and i blame management for everything thats happening every fucking season being it poor transfer or poor team management .. here players do whatever the fuck they want, because there are no consequences.. no one is going to punish them

maybe we need someone like materazzi to be near all the time to slap the fuck out of them whenever they are acting like a complete dicks

I actually agree. I don't hate LS. He was dealt a shit hand, a very shit hand and he doesn't deserve it. But it's looking like he has no idea how to turn this around.
 

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I remember in his first year at Inter Mourinho tried the 4 2 3 1, saw that it didn't work and switched to 4 3 1 2 for the whole season. The way I see it, it's very obviously the thing we should do now, too.
 

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yes he should leave.. he dont need this shit on his back.. he deserves better

and i blame management for everything thats happening every fucking season being it poor transfer or poor team management .. here players do whatever the fuck they want, because there are no consequences.. no one is going to punish them

maybe we need someone like materazzi to be near all the time to slap the fuck out of them whenever they are acting like a complete dicks

This. Imo this is our biggest issue for our current bad form. It's obvious Spalletti has issues with some players and he can't motivate them anymore. The players just don't give a fuck anymore as they know there won't be any consequences. The management is always absent. I don't remember the last time Zhang Jindong was in Milan, Sabatini is somewhere between China and Italy, Ausilio has his own agenda. I am not sure if the players are trying to get the coach fired or they just don't care anymore.But both Spalletti apologists and critics are right. Spalletti is the best coach we've had after Mourinho and he isn't the problem but things can't go on like that. Something needs to change. I hope the management finally slap the fuck out of the players, like you said, but i am not holding my breath for that.
 

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Listen, nobody saying LS is a bad coach. He just cannot turn the bad result around. When your same tactic and formation doesnt work for certain amount of games, you should try other option. This option including play some youngsters if required , but he was too scared to do that. The one irritated me alot was he was so persistent with his player selection which obviously didnt work and he failed to realise.

Ls needs to punish those players who play badly and not following his instruction. Those fuckers were too pampered and comfortable with their position because they think nobody can replace / takeover them in starting eleven. And my biggest critic to him is LS likes italian player alot and most of Italian players at Inter are crap ( no offense for Italian players n fif member ).

Lastly, LS is not a bad coach, but he is not a great coach either. He just need abit or daring method to punish most of the fuckers in this cursed team. Fuck u zhang and big dong for being cheapskate and hide behind ffp
 

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The players need a shakedown that is absolutely essential atm, why dont LS lock the squad in a training ground for a punishment.

This squad. Didnt he just gave 2 free days because training went well and they still got slaughtered against Genoa. I also realize you have to give some credit to Ballardini aswell. They are in a good shape atm, very respectable results vs top sides lately.

Enough of Mr Nice Guy Luciano.
 

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The problem is the squad. You can't say all the managers we had the last couple of years are shit. When we won the treble and the years before we had some players in the squad like J. Zanetti, Cambiasso, Materazzi, Stankovic etc who didn't accept shitty behaviour like Brozovic etc. Sometimes I dream we had those kind of players when the players now behave like idiots. Every team needs an hierarchy which stands on and off the pitch. The last couples of years shows that alot of players come and go and the players that are still here think they are better then they really are. I don't think a change of formation would be our saving (yet Spalletti could try it). We need an complete overhaul of the team and management sector. I always thought Spalletti was a very good team manager but even under Spalletti the players don't act the way they should in an Inter shirt. I think you should lose alot of players this summer like Brozovic, D'Ambrosio, Nagatomo, Dalbert, Borja etc etc. Even sell Icardi and bring in motivated players who really want to play for Inter, give the Primavera guys a chance! I know this will take years and years but do we really have a choice at this moment?
 
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I wouldn't sack Spalletti even if we drop out of EL spots. Only CL matters and if we are left behind of those spots during the spring, why sack him?

Sack him before we're left behind? Who's gonna replace him who can keep us in CL spot competition? I can't think of any names we can get.

End result, makes absolutely no sense to sack Spalletti in any circumstances (we can't get relegated anymore with 48 points).
 

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no matter the coach problems would stay the same since its not about spallo rather the fucking management and how the club is ran
 
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