Lautaro Martinez

Ed.

SCUDETTO 2021
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
15,459
Likes
97
Favorite Player
Doina Turcanu
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
Joao Mario did it before.
Candreva did it.
Ricky Alvarez did it.
Kovacic did it.
Kondogbia did it.

It is a matter of knowing where your teammate is and what he is gonna do and can do. That is simply what I suggested for Lautaro.
 

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,637
Likes
17,430
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
No they have not done it. The ball was in the air and it was a shooting chance. None of those players you mentioned have done so in a game that matters, in injury time, with the team trailing by a goal.

Can't believe you're gonna make me do this again, just concede :lol: I guess it's screenshot time.

Asamoah crosses, Martinez demands the ball and is free. No one around him. Notice that Icardi is man marked and is about to shrug off the defender in his own special way. You can see it, it's on tv. Lautaro on the other hand just looks at the ball.

rjqAdtE.jpg



Cancelo with the bad headed clearance, Icardi free from Chiellini who tried to move towards the ball and Lautaro is fixated on the ball's trajectory.

CHvUY46.jpg



Are you for real claiming that any other player would have let that chance go and look to pass? Icardi is Icardi, he managed to set himself free and be in a great position. But Lautaro was too busy staring at the ball since the beginning of that situation and it fell to him, at the edge of the box, with a chance to get a great shot before the bounce. You think he could have weighted a pass? Controlled the ball with Mandzukic being just W2 steps behind him (meaning that if he tried to stop the ball, Mandzukic would probably catch him and disrupt his flow)? With Matuidi just in front of him to worry about as well?

Sorry mate, that's a shot for 99% of the football players in the world. Lautaro just did not execute it as well as he could have. A quick flick pass to Icardi would have been ideal, but as I said, you cannot really expect a player to pull off the ideal situation. Even Icardi was just disappointed that the shot wasn't 'full' and on target, not that he didn't give him the ball. And Icardi is someone who usually "whines" at his teammates for not giving him the ball when he feels he's the best choice.
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
32,925
Likes
11,861
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster
The pedestrians in Italy are more bold than anywhere else I’ve been. They just walk and expect cars to stop. It takes some getting used to, especially if you’re the pedestrian. You have to do the same thing or you’ll never get anywhere

That's how it should be tho, at road crossings. It's Italian drives who are dangerous, not the pedestrians. :D I've encountered that on my own skin when a woman crashed into us without even hitting the brakes.
 

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,637
Likes
17,430
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
That's how it should be tho, at road crossings. It's Italian drives who are dangerous, not the pedestrians. :D I've encountered that on my own skin when a woman crashed into us without even hitting the brakes.

You should check out the Middle East. The drivers are surprised that there are people wandering around on the pavements and occasionally may cross a street. They also like to honk a lot for no reason.

Italians and generally us Med Europeans are awful at driving for European standards, but it's child's play compared to the Middle East. It's not that 'awful driving' is a matter of skill. It's the complete neglect that driving is a responsbility that dominates and that makes being around these drivers very dangerous. There's also something about the roads in these countries. You see foreigners (Europeans) come over and drive as recklessly, while they behave well back in their own countries.
 

ADRossi

Administrator
Administrator
Joined
Jul 17, 2010
Messages
19,121
Likes
20,422
10 years of FIF
Forum Supporter
I will die before I acknowledge that the French are better drivers than Italians. They are the worst I've seen.
 

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,637
Likes
17,430
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
I will die before I acknowledge that the French are better drivers than Italians. They are the worst I've seen.

The French are bad as in they can't drive. The Italians are actually good drivers, that's how they survive their own mess.
 

dax21

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Sep 16, 2017
Messages
3,314
Likes
849
Favorite Player
Bastoni
Yeah he's shit.

Bring Eder back, he reads the game way better as vice Icardi.

There is a Barca match tonight if you are that desperate for an Eder masterclass.
 

Delicate

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Apr 2, 2018
Messages
1,593
Likes
0
Lautaro wasnt asked to be loaned by the things he couldnt do.
But by the things he decided to do horribly wrong...

His decision making is too green to play for Inter, he should learn that first by being loaned out. Karamoh is more ready.

Hope that "he is young and green" argument will be dropped soon, no later than next August. He will be 22 and should deliver starting from next season, no excuses.

I hope I will ever witness somebody with 5+9 stats in 20 matches like Jadon Sancho in Inter. And who will be 18 and yet won't be considered immature and inexperienced in Italian football.
 

tanorini

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Dec 1, 2012
Messages
1,672
Likes
45
Favorite Player
Julio Cesar
10 years of FIF
You should check out the Middle East. The drivers are surprised that there are people wandering around on the pavements and occasionally may cross a street. They also like to honk a lot for no reason.

Italians and generally us Med Europeans are awful at driving for European standards, but it's child's play compared to the Middle East. It's not that 'awful driving' is a matter of skill. It's the complete neglect that driving is a responsbility that dominates and that makes being around these drivers very dangerous. There's also something about the roads in these countries. You see foreigners (Europeans) come over and drive as recklessly, while they behave well back in their own countries.

The middle east is not a monolith, what part of the middle east do you exactly mean in your comment?
 

Shaun

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 4, 2004
Messages
14,753
Likes
185
Favorite Player
Kovacic
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
FIF Special Ones
I'm not sure why so much derision is being aimed at this kid for not doing better in 15 minutes against one of the best teams in the world. I think it's clear that so far with us he has struggled in making an impact of the subs bench as even in the games where he scored he typically took a while to settle into the game. Basically we need to give the kid a bit of a break. Being a young player is tough enough at Inter. But people here are expecting the kid to look amazing and sharp while coming off the bench when he has barely played?
 

dax21

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Sep 16, 2017
Messages
3,314
Likes
849
Favorite Player
Bastoni
Extremely unfair to judge players based on these 10 minute cameos.

Only one thing is for sure, for now we are hindering his development.
 

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,637
Likes
17,430
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
The middle east is not a monolith, what part of the middle east do you exactly mean in your comment?

The Middle East is pretty much the Levant up to Iraq and Egypt to the south. For some others it includes the entire Arab peninsula and the entire North of Africa but that doesn't make sense. It's just another American way of saying "Arab world" which is just wrong.
 

Universe

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Jan 27, 2009
Messages
28,734
Likes
14,496
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
FIF Special Ones
Most Humorous Member
I'm not sure why so much derision is being aimed at this kid for not doing better in 15 minutes against one of the best teams in the world. I think it's clear that so far with us he has struggled in making an impact of the subs bench as even in the games where he scored he typically took a while to settle into the game. Basically we need to give the kid a bit of a break. Being a young player is tough enough at Inter. But people here are expecting the kid to look amazing and sharp while coming off the bench when he has barely played?

I agree with you and I'm not advocating his treatment but even still, as a fucking adult professional athlete, you should be smarter than what Lautaro has shown in these sub appearances. You must be smarter.

Lautaro wasted valuable minutes by fouling players all over the pitch when even a 6 year old knows that juve (or any team in that position) were going to milk those fouls for every second possible. Then when given his chances (in this match and at Camp Nou) he couldn't even get a shot on target from close range and unmarked. That's simply not good enough for a €25m forward.
 

forzainter257

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Mar 22, 2018
Messages
5,303
Likes
2,739
Favorite Player
Lautaro
Should have chosen Atletico Madrid instead. He would be their Aguero by now.
 

magnesium

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jul 2, 2014
Messages
2,951
Likes
1,520
Favorite Player
Gagliardinho
He still young, first year in serie A, 21 years old.

His decision and composure still not good as Icardi.

Especially without much playing time, i don't expect him to become Aguero.

Sell him to Sampdoria, Genoa, or Lazio.

He will become their star player in 2 years.

If he play many game like Politano, you can complaint.. but i think he is good, for now.
 

Bluenine

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Feb 3, 2009
Messages
13,322
Likes
5,377
Favorite Player
Zanetti
10 years of FIF
Transfer Guru
Joao Mario did it before.
Candreva did it.
Ricky Alvarez did it.
Kovacic did it.
Kondogbia did it.

This 'it' you are talking about, is it sucking at Inter?
 

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,637
Likes
17,430
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
You can apply that to the middle-east to then.

I could, but it's not true. They keep crashing at each other all the time. I was in Lebanon the other day and I saw that someone was run over by a car apparently, there were lots of people around him trying to help him out, seemed like a hit & run thing and the guy who was hit was in terrible shape. Mate who lives there told me he sees that on a weekly basis. It's rarely serious accidents with their driving though, but sometimes it may be at high speed spots like highways etc.

Could probably move this to the 'Travelling' thread.
 

ADRossi

Administrator
Administrator
Joined
Jul 17, 2010
Messages
19,121
Likes
20,422
10 years of FIF
Forum Supporter
I think I'm most frustrated by the fact we spent 20 million Euros on a striker who never plays instead of on a midfielder, knowing we had a limited budget.

I understand why we did it though.
 

Sassuolu

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Oct 12, 2006
Messages
12,318
Likes
179
Favorite Player
Stefan de Vrij
Old username
Toninu
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
Lautaro was a major investment for the future, but wait I thought we hated youth.
 
Top