Joao Cancelo

[YoramG]

What the fuck kind of mentality would that be, to go from working your ass off to help us losers get into the Champions League to playing for Wolves. Surely just wait a little bit and see if we'll put in an offer after July, it's not like he's got a WC or anything to worry about. Go on vacation Joao. Think it over.

Then again, probably just media bullshit once again. I'm just procrastinating.

 

[Il Drago]

I can't believe we're gonna lose Cancelo to fucking Wolves. I can't really blame the management though. 40m for Cancelo or any other RB is insane. We're not Man City.And i am disappointed with Cancelo for his lack of ambition. Accepting an offer from a recently promoted while you could play in CL? WTF!

 

[El Matador]

If this guy moves to wolves we shouldn't really worry about it. I want him here more than anyone but if this is how far his ambitions go then we're better off without him. I'd be gutted if he joined Juve or another champions league because it's a missed opportunity for us. However if he knows we are looking to sign him in July and he moves to wolves then we can find players who can match our own ambitions.

 

[Kova10]

sure he'll move to the wolves. nuno espirito santo, ruben neves, diogo Jota, helder Costa, and Ivan cavaleiro are already there. wolves are also interested in andre silva. what's the correlation? Jorge Mendes is. wouldn't be surprised if he even pulled Ronaldo there, as he seems to be very influental in that club

 

[Bluenine]

What the fuck kind of mentality would that be, to go from working your ass off to help us losers get into the Champions League to playing for Wolves. Surely just wait a little bit and see if we'll put in an offer after July, it's not like he's got a WC or anything to worry about. Go on vacation Joao. Think it over.

Wolves are a very ambitious club these days, also owned by the Chinese. Their owners are as legit and rich as ours, and they have enlisted Jorge Mendes to help them out, basically also investing into Mendes' agency. As a result they got a lot of quality players on loan/deals while playing in the Championship. And now this is their big opportunity to spend a bucketload. Believe it or not, they are targeting top players to make a push for European qualification. They have already spent 40m buying 3 players they had on loan. They are like Diet-ManCity, and they will try to attract quality players by big money and showing them a big project.

Even if Cancelo turns them down, this unfortunately sets the benchmark for Cancelo's fee at €40m if we want him.

 

[IAmNotDam]

To question Cancelo's ambition because he wants to play in arguably the most competitive league in the world is laughable. Furthermore, ya'll are acting like Wolves have nothing to offer. First and foremost, their partnership with super-agent, Jorge Mendes, is almost enough to get anyone on board, especially when Mendes seems to favour working with Portuguese players (Ronaldo, Anderson, Bebé, Nani, Pepe, etc.), so, from Cancelo's point of view, it's probably extremely exciting to work with a guy who is experienced in promoting the careers of young Portuguese players. Let's not forget, he was responsible for bringing Renato Sanchez from Bayern to Swansea! On top of that, the Barclay's Premier League is the biggest domestic platform a player can play on, not just in terms of highest attendances out of all the European leagues (ahead of Bundisliga in second and the English Championship in third!!!), but also in terms of worldwide exposure. The BPL is broadcast in almost every country on the planet, and I can absolutely understand why a player would want to play in a league that enables them to build an international fanbase. Another big selling point for most top-flight English clubs is the fact that they have more money than most of the elite clubs in all the other top European leagues. I'm pretty sure Wolves not only have a higher transfer budget than Inter, they probably have a higher wage budget and can offer Cancelo more than Inter can. In my opinion, saying that he's unambitious because he's choosing a newly-promoted BPL team over a team who has just qualified for Champion's League is looking at this issue superficially. It's like arguing that Eden Hazard would be better off moving to Midtjylland, Celtic or Ajax because he's guaranteed UCL football.

 

[Universe]

The comparison to playing for Midtjylland etc is a bit off because Cancelo has actually played and succeeded here, a much bigger club no matter how you put it, and playing in the Champions League is generally considered a big consideration for most players, especially those guaranteed a first team spot like Cancelo would be here. But as you say, the appeal of the EPL and Mendes influence is enormous too.

If he does go to Wolves, depending on however our RB situation turns out for the next year, we might end up hoping for them to get relegated so we can get another crack at him.

Something that hasn't been mentioned yet is that the possibility that he plays well at Wolverhampton (he'll probably look like a God compared to that pack of shitters) and gets sold again for an even more massive fee. I can very well imagine big teams lining up for him if he does well at Wolves.

Of course it's always possible he's a massive flop if he goes there and we loan him for another 6 months in Jan, but all in all there is no positive way to look at this and for once I do hope we're actually doing everything we can to sign the guy.

 

[hitmax]

So Valencia are the winners in this deal at the end. Got kondogbia and murillo for peanuts and got back their player more mature and with more market appealing. The person who was behind this deal must be sanctioned from any other negotiations.

 

[Ed.]

If there is any bigger scam from Portuguese players than Joao Mario, it would be Renato Sanches. The guy played a total of 900 minutes in the whole season with Bayern. Swansea was doing him a favour, honestly speaking. He went there and spent more than half of the season on the sideline. He wasn't the first choice as well in Swansea. LOL.

Cancelo on the other hand has helped Inter to return to CL.

Is it a downgrade for Cancelo to go to Wolves? Definitely. Regardless their investment, Wolves will not achieve much in EPL. There has been 1 Leicester in the last 20 years in EPL.

The most they can do as newly promoted is mid table. Is it not a downgrade from competing in Europe to be in a club that hasn't played EPL for 7 years?

EPL is most competitive league is also up for debate. If competitive means for the top 6 position, then probably yes.

Hazard in Chelsea is a different case. You can't really be serious comparing Wolves to Chelsea.

 

[M.Adnan]

He's fucking stupid if he goes to Wolves.

 

[Ronaldo]

He's fucking stupid if he goes to Wolves.

What else can he do if Valencia can't afford to keep and Inter won't sign him?

 

[IAmNotDam]

If there is any bigger scam from Portuguese players than Joao Mario, it would be Renato Sanches. The guy played a total of 900 minutes in the whole season with Bayern. Swansea was doing him a favour, honestly speaking. He went there and spent more than half of the season on the sideline. He wasn't the first choice as well in Swansea. LOL.

Cancelo on the other hand has helped Inter to return to CL.

Is it a downgrade for Cancelo to go to Wolves? Definitely. Regardless their investment, Wolves will not achieve much in EPL. There has been 1 Leicester in the last 20 years in EPL.

The most they can do as newly promoted is mid table. Is it not a downgrade from competing in Europe to be in a club that hasn't played EPL for 7 years?

EPL is most competitive league is also up for debate. If competitive means for the top 6 position, then probably yes.

Hazard in Chelsea is a different case. You can't really be serious comparing Wolves to Chelsea.

The point I'm making is that it is indeed a (significant) downgrade to go from a club of such prestige as Inter to one like Wolves, but at the same time, from a personal/selfish standpoint, it's a huge improvement going from Serie A to Premier League. The level of standard in the English Premier League is by far higher than any other league. Swansea, Stoke and West Brom would fairly easily be mid-table teams in La Liga, Serie A, and probably fight for European football in Eredivisie and Bundisliga. Even looking at the representation for World Cups, the majority come from the Premier League. (In 2014, Serie A was second, and probably would be second again this year if Italy had qualified). The aggression, tempo, and physicality in the EPL are superior than all of the other major leagues in Europe. Almost all of the former players who have played both in England and abroad agree that it is the toughest league to play in.

I'm not comparing Chelsea to Wolves, but the argument put forward was that Cancelo was not ambitious enough for Inter because he'd choose Wolves over playing in the Champion's League. When looking at it in simple black-and-white, it's absolutely no different from saying that Hazard isn't ambitious because he's choosing a team who aren't play Champion's League next year when he could easily move to a Champion's League team.

 

[Eddie]

The only reason that I can see that he's not waiting for us and going to Wolverhampton is because we might not have the intention on bringing back at his current price or Valencia is telling him get sold now or stay here.

If he goes there it might really be because of their coach and agent. It does really seem strange if he goes right away and doesn't wait for the best option. as long as is not juBe it'll hurt a little less I guess.

 

[Puma]

As much as I like him, I do not think Inter should be bullied by Cancelo and Valencia into making a move for him, especially if the latter are seeking 40 million.

The way I see it, if he is settled and likes living in Milan and playing for Inter, he can veto any move and wait for us to swoop for him. If he does not want to do that and Valencia persist on wanting to maximise the amount they receive for him then so be it. We should not be forced into paying 40 million for him. And if that means he ends up at Wolves, then that is okay by me. Surely, we can find someone else.

 

[Ed.]

The point I'm making is that it is indeed a (significant) downgrade to go from a club of such prestige as Inter to one like Wolves, but at the same time, from a personal/selfish standpoint, it's a huge improvement going from Serie A to Premier League. The level of standard in the English Premier League is by far higher than any other league. Swansea, Stoke and West Brom would fairly easily be mid-table teams in La Liga, Serie A, and probably fight for European football in Eredivisie and Bundisliga. Even looking at the representation for World Cups, the majority come from the Premier League. (In 2014, Serie A was second, and probably would be second again this year if Italy had qualified). The aggression, tempo, and physicality in the EPL are superior than all of the other major leagues in Europe. Almost all of the former players who have played both in England and abroad agree that it is the toughest league to play in.

I'm not comparing Chelsea to Wolves, but the argument put forward was that Cancelo was not ambitious enough for Inter because he'd choose Wolves over playing in the Champion's League. When looking at it in simple black-and-white, it's absolutely no different from saying that Hazard isn't ambitious because he's choosing a team who aren't play Champion's League next year when he could easily move to a Champion's League team.

The bolded part is again arguable. Serie A has its own strength. Swansea, West Brom and Stoke are crap teams. They are on Crotone levels. Atalanta or Sampdoria would destroy them. Atalanta won 3-0 and 5-1 against Everton in EL this season.

You must be joking for claiming Swansea will go to Europe in Bundesliga competing with Leverkusen, RB Leipzig, Dortmund, Schalke.

How can representation for World Cup be relevant? 23 of England players play in EPL. That is already biased. Oh and they were rock bottom in the group in 2014. LOL

Almost all of former players claim England is the toughest league? Who do you mean by most?

The ambition of Cancelo with Inter is to play in Europe stage and competing in top 4 in Serie A vs with Wolves to fight as EPL midtable club? That's like saying I've a chance to drive a lamborghini but I prefer to drive a Dacia instead.

In the last 30 years, Wolves' best achievement is 15th place in EPL and they have only played 4 seasons in EPL.

Can't think of any players who have made such a move. a 24 years old with a high ceiling potential prefers to play with Wolverhampton so he can play in EPL?

Even Shaqiri and Joao Mario were reluctant to go Stoke and West Ham initially. Ranocchia had a hard time to accept Hull. Alvarez didn't want Sunderland.

 

[monster09]

It feels so bad that PL newbie is able to spend that kind of money and we are not...

Haven't been so sad about a player leaving in a while...

It's not just a newbie, they are loaded. Their owners are filthy rich and they have tie ups with super agent Mendes. He has taken lot of players from Porto and in general Portuguese football to Wolves, Ruben Neves is one of them and their best player.

There will be lot of expectations on Wolves next season, they play good football, they have rich owners and Mendes is brokering lot of players. If I'm not wrong it's a stepping stone for players, play well for Wolves and they will be sold for big clubs and for bigger money.

 

[Ed.]

play well for Wolves and they will be sold for big clubs and for bigger money.

That's what Mendes is investing. He will get fat paycheck, Wolves will go back to Championship.

 

[Palacio]

As much as I like him, I do not think Inter should be bullied by Cancelo and Valencia into making a move for him, especially if the latter are seeking 40 million.

The way I see it, if he is settled and likes living in Milan and playing for Inter, he can veto any move and wait for us to swoop for him. If he does not want to do that and Valencia persist on wanting to maximise the amount they receive for him then so be it. We should not be forced into paying 40 million for him. And if that means he ends up at Wolves, then that is okay by me. Surely, we can find someone else.

Well said.

 

[Dylan]

Wolves are a very ambitious club these days, also owned by the Chinese. Their owners are as legit and rich as ours, and they have enlisted Jorge Mendes to help them out, basically also investing into Mendes' agency. As a result they got a lot of quality players on loan/deals while playing in the Championship. And now this is their big opportunity to spend a bucketload. Believe it or not, they are targeting top players to make a push for European qualification. They have already spent 40m buying 3 players they had on loan. They are like Diet-ManCity, and they will try to attract quality players by big money and showing them a big project.

Even if Cancelo turns them down, this unfortunately sets the benchmark for Cancelo's fee at €40m if we want him.

Your post is irrelevant. It's fucking Wolves. WOLVES. It's not the first shit English team to pretend they have money and it won't be the last.

 

[monster09]

That's what Mendes is investing. He will get fat paycheck, Wolves will go back to Championship.

Doubt it. They have rich owners now and they will invest, also Mendes will help them out with players.