Udinese - Inter (25 Apr 12)

[Universe]

Maybe... Personally, i'd try with Guarin-Cambi-Poli. Fuck it!

Didn't Obi make a great claim for selection yesterday?

Poli - Cambiasso - Obi
Alvarez - Milito -Zarate

Tho Stramaccioni did say that Obi was injured yesterday. Anyone got any information regarding this possible injury?

 

[Bzzlightyear]

im not saying hes going to do what he did in the videos every moment of every game, but by those few minutes, you can tell what his potential is and where his assets lie. which is defending high up, and going shoulder to shoulder with great pace to dispossess fast players. what happens in training does not truly affect ur performance on the pitch. strama is a good attacking coach and no offence to him, but we've conceded 7 goals in 3 games against relegation battlers. him choosing rannochia was obviously a mistake, and so was samuel for siena. i still strongly believe in strama, but hes gotta take a risk, so we the fans can at least see him, at least play him for half a game.

Your wrong to give ( part blame to stramm ), the goals that come all 7 of the were defending errors 3 of them were panelty on his first day. But overall he has improved from 4 goals to 1 goals in 3 days, that is improvment in my book,

I do Agree Stramms potential is hight to be one of the best coach, as youcan allready see how he dictate the game.

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I agree, especially about Deki. A lot of people just do not want to understand that this is not Football Manager, playing with statistics, but reality and reality is that Deki is practically the only one (besides Sneijder and Alvarez) who knows how to distribute the ball around as you have said well. The hate for Deki can continue, but It is a fact that he is the only one who is going to start every game under Stramaccioni from the first minute - at least until Alvarez comes back in form or Sneijder returns.

Against Udinese it will be difficult, very difficult. I really hope we play Chivu as centerback, since he can use his speed better then Lucio or Ranocchia, who will be outrun by Udinese's fast forwards without any trouble in their counter attacks.

And that is why Cambiaso is playing so high up to cover ground for him, " he is like barcelonas Busqet covering for Xavi, the same way does inter, pushing high up and attacking keep the presure so the other team use more power to recover and the key is to move the ball fast, and IMO he does fine.

And please dont compare to FM or fifa 2012 this is reality

 

[Tanel]

Someone suggested the idea of using Sneijder in deep.

Actually is not that outrageous.

His defensive side is sort of a meh... but his ball distrubiting is miles ahead of Deki who is playing exactly for that reason. And Deki is horrible in defence.

Tho in reality it would probably look more like Sneidjer plaing in AM role and coming deep to collect.

I doubt he's ready tho? Seeing as all our players under Strama take an extra game to return.

 

[tuadi]

Someone suggested the idea of using Sneijder in deep.

Actually is not that outrageous.

His defensive side is sort of a meh... but his ball distrubiting is miles ahead of Deki who is playing exactly for that reason. And Deki is horrible in defence.

Tho in reality it would probably look more like Sneidjer plaing in AM role and coming deep to collect.

I doubt he's ready tho? Seeing as all our players under Strama take an extra game to return.

In this case, i wanna see Strama uses 2 DMs

Cambi - Poli
Sneijder

Of course, sneijder and deki are suck at defense, but sneijder's skill to distribute the ball forwad is far away better than deki.. Gotta agree with that..

 

[Raul Duke]

I would rather see Alvarez as an AM

----Cambi---Poli
Zarate-Alvarez--Obi
-------Milito--------

Or

--Poli--Cambi--Obi
--------Alvarez----
-----Zarate-Milito--

 

[Fapuccino]

the reason sneijder has "lost" form is cuz neither he nor his coaches know his true position, which is second striker, pretty much rooneys role at mu. thats why mu never bought him. He cannot play deep, the reason being he misplaces wayyyy too many passes. He's not xavi, he can't control tempo efficiently. He's good at hitting risky defence splitting passes, like with palermo at coppa italia final, or with eto'o vs chelsea in 2010 and milito vs bayern. and he can only hit penetrating passes during counterattacks when the other defenses are more open. He can't really provide good passes when the other defenses are tight, such as pirlo did with pepe against lazio yesterday. mourinho always played him as a ss

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how do u know hell concede that many goals? and even if he does its better to do it with him than lucio and samuel, so juan can get experience. my favourite quote from guardiola(i wish he could come next term), is that not taking risks is the biggest risk. this is cuz no matter what u do ur taking risks, and playing the old farts in defence is exactly what hes doing. he needs to give juan a chance to prove himself, im not saying start him every game, just give him a chance

 

[Universe]

Sneijder's best position is AMF, not SS. Mourinho used him behind two strikers in a 4312 like:

Zanetti - Cambiasso - Motta
Sneijder
Milito - Eto'o​

Or as the AMF in a 4231 like:

Cambiasso - Motta
Pandev - Sneijder - Eto'o
Milito​

In those kinds of lineups, he can still be extremely useful. Poor form, injuries, retard coaches playing him out of position.. it's all true. There is no single reason he's had a bad season.

 

[thoriq_r9]

the reason sneijder has "lost" form is cuz neither he nor his coaches know his true position, which is second striker, pretty much rooneys role at mu. thats why mu never bought him. He cannot play deep, the reason being he misplaces wayyyy too many passes. He's not xavi, he can't control tempo efficiently. He's good at hitting risky defence splitting passes, like with palermo at coppa italia final, or with eto'o vs chelsea in 2010 and milito vs bayern. and he can only hit penetrating passes during counterattacks when the other defenses are more open. He can't really provide good passes when the other defenses are tight, such as pirlo did with pepe against lazio yesterday. mourinho always played him as a ss

Sneijder plays much more direct than Xavi does.
He always look to play those killer passes, because that's what demanded from him in Inter.

I think you're being too harsh to say that Sneijder can't provide good passes when the defence is tight.
The difference is that during Leonardo, Gasperini, and Ranieri's era our attack is far too static.
There's no movement whatsoever and I bet even Xavi wouldn't be able to create many chances.

Look what Sneijder can do in his national team.
He's a beast, with players like van Persie, Robben, van der Vaart around him who provide movements and spaces in front.

Under Stramaccioni I've seen the attacking movements become much more fluid.
One of the example is that brilliant move involving Obi and Chivu which was unfortunately missed by Milito.
I can't see Inter under Ranieri do anything close to that.
So I can expect Sneijder back to his best after he is fit to play.

 

[Choppin Onions]

I would rather see Alvarez as an AM

----Cambi---Poli
Zarate-Alvarez--Obi
-------Milito--------

Or

--Poli--Cambi--Obi
--------Alvarez----
-----Zarate-Milito--

Love that 2nd formation.

 

[Caecuban]

You must be fucking joking saying that Samuel is not in top shape.

He was a complete boss in almost all of previous games, covering up Lucio or Rano and even sometimes the WBs and also being dangerous in the corners. He screwed one time, in one game... try to remember more than the last 2 days ffs.

Samuel in our defense is a must, the other CB position is the one up to discussion,

 

[Lenny_and_Carl]

Samuel is injured.

 

[Sqnalkel]

You must be fucking joking saying that Samuel is not in top shape.

He was a complete boss in almost all of previous games, covering up Lucio or Rano and even sometimes the WBs and also being dangerous in the corners. He screwed one time, in one game... try to remember more than the last 2 days ffs.

Samuel in our defense is a must, the other CB position is the one up to discussion,

Actually that's not true a lot of our goals in the past games was because Samuel was 2-3 meters behind the defensive line playing an opposing player onside. If people actually pay attention to the games they'll realize that Samuel has cost us just as many goals as Lucio if not more this season. Yes he looks more secure but that's because he takes a lots less risks than Lucio, while Lucio intercepts a lot more balls and have a lot more successful tackles than Samuel. Lucio has been doing a lot of stupid mistakes controlling the ball and clearing the ball properly, but Samuel has been slow as fuck and can't keep with the rest of the team, while also struggling a lot getting the ball forward to our MFs and usually just gift the ball to the opponent team.

 

[chipschups]

our defense is just too old. period.

 

[Howl]

gonna have to stream this game too :|

fuck espn uk!.. bastards would rather show bremen vs stutgart than this.. seriously, since buying the channel, solely for inter games, i recall watching like 5max

hope guarin starts wanna see him play more, or atleast see deki on the bench

 

[mexican_azzurri]

our defense is just too old. period.

older defense vs. Di Natale ......:challenge:

 

[Edward]

i think using sneijder in deki's position won't work. deki's not a good defender ofc and because of that we've been left with huge spaces in the middle of the pitch on the counter, and with sneijder it would probably be even worse. unless the two side midfielders play narrower and defend more. but then that might make us too ineffective in attack. sneijder does not have the best attitude. deki may be too slow to get back, but sneijder loses the ball then throwing his arms up in the air and walking back to position will be even worse

 

[Ed.]

gonna have to stream this game too :|

fuck espn uk!.. bastards would rather show bremen vs stutgart than this.. seriously, since buying the channel, solely for inter games, i recall watching like 5max

hope guarin starts wanna see him play more, or atleast see deki on the bench

sounds like setanta has a better deal. lol. i'm lucky to get setanta ireland. they show serie a almost every week and inter is 1 of the most common game they broadcast.

 

[Michael]

STRAIN FOR SAMUEL, WILL RETURN IN THREE WEEKS

"If a warrior like Samuel asked to come out then it must be very serious. It would be a huge loss." That was Andrea Stramaccioni after Inter-Siena and his fear has come true. The examinations which he underwent yesterday have revealed that the 34 year-old central defender has suffered a strained adductor of the right leg. The Argentinian will be out three weeks and will miss the game against Udinese (also suspended), Fiorentina and Cesena. He could return to play versus Parma on May 2 or the derby on the 6th.

More Chivu than Rano On Wednesday, Stramaccioni replaced Samuel with Nagatomo and moved Chivu alongside Lucio. It is very possible that this would be the choice on Saturday. Also because that the Bianconeri have a very speedy players up front in Di Natale and Barretto and so the duo of Lucio-Ranocchia could be a risk.

Obi decisive If Stankovic left the field exhausted against Siena and Cambiasso will seal his third game in eight days, in the midfield what remains is one position. Obi, again, seems to be the favorite over Guarin and Poli. Recall that he was taken out of the game due to cramps. But the 20 year-old could be the surprise weapon for a less offensive trident with Milito and Zarate. The most likely solution remains one of Alvarez or Forlan.

Sneijder perhaps in Florence In all of this, the team is still waiting for, other than Maicon, the return of Sneijder. Yesterday, the Dutchman played for the first time in a practice match after awhile. He could return against Fiorentina. Then it is up to Stramaccioni to find ways to re-integrate him into the lineup.

 

[necrodragon]

seriously, is stankovic really fit enough to play 90 minutes and then start another game after just 3 days, his pot belly tells me otherwise

 

[Vibe]