Roberto Gagliardini

[DARi0]

Nice to see you back

What do you mean, mate? He`s an Atalanta youth product.

 

[Il Drago]

According to Pedulla, Palacio may be a part of Gagliardini deal. If that happens, it will be a win win situation for us.

 

[M.Adnan]

From what I understand, the closest midfielder in Inter to Gagliardini is Kondogbia? If so, this probably means that the Kondo man isn't in Inter's future plans. We can't have one of the highest paid players in the team to stay on the bench. We already have Mario, Banega, Brozovic, and most likely Gagliardini and Gustavo/Leiva. We're probably just waiting for some club to make an acceptable offer for Kondogbia.

 

[enjoy]

Pedulla: #Gagliardini will arrive on a €6m loan initially, with a buyout clause which could ultimately take the price north of €25m. #FCIM
The midfielder will join up with Stefano Pioli’s squad as soon as he has taken his medical, with Palacio potentially moving the other way.

 

[Ramdac]

Good, that means no more Palacio, and we will see more of Gabigol.

 

[Wobblz]

Benvenuto Roberto and I sincerely wish you good luck in our shirt

I have a good feeling about this transfer since all the elements are there for his success, but for me the most important factor is MENTALITY . Born and raised in Bergamo [between Milano and Brescia - where Pirlo was born] - this is a crucial factor in players reaching top potential and constantly improving. This is what Brazilians usually lack, and they start to decline towards the end of their career.

This factor was widely underrated by Inter and did not represent a priority when we used to buy players in the last 6 years [financial reasons, I guess]. That is because our Scouting Network and Directore Sportivo were looking for players with certain TECHNICAL and PHYSICAL attributes for a certain role, but did not emphasize on the PSYCHIC. As a result, we got all kind of players that seemed appropriate, but failed to live up to expectations and did not deliver on top level. Not everyone can handle pressure management, consistently obtaining good results [winning mentality]. I won't name players, you already know them.

Italians usually age like old wine, because they keep pushing themselves and are hungry for more. You guys probably know the mentality differences between North and South of Italy, so I'm confident he will be a great player one day. It will take some time for that, especially given that he's a midfielder, but I have no doubt he will do it.

The fact that we are linked to players like Verratti, Berardi/Bernardeschi, Darmian & Acerbi makes me happy. It means we have spending power and we`re going for the top young players available, to forge a TEAM in it`s true meaning and build for several years of success.

I wish him many trophies won @ our club!

Well, that's a borderline racist point of view.

 

[DARi0]

What paragraph did you consider "borderline racist point of view"? Because it wasnt`t meant to be like that. Hope I didn`t offend anyone.

There is a reason why top clubs are historically located in the North and not South of Italy. I`m thinking of values like organization, ambition [demanding club with demanding staff], strategy, determination, work rate and winning mentality.

The same differences may apply to certain nations/regions, with their own exceptions from this theory. There is a reason why we usually prefer argentine players rather than brazilians, but this also has its exceptions.

It is of course a generalization, but I was only referring to our strategy regarding long term investments.
If you have the money, it seems a safer bet to make sure our dominant contingent is italian. They may feel more attached to the club, knowing its history and perhaps willing to make history, not just coming over to play for big salary like Yaya Toure/Witsel - mercenary kind of guys. Loyalty is unfortunately a rare value in today`s football.

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The loan is only for FFP reasons.

There is no way the club will judge a 22/23 year old purely on the next 6 months to decide if they want to splash 25m on him.

They have already decided to buy him. Obligation/apps clause or not. I read juBentus wanted him but we snatched him. juBentus have a mature and strong squad right now, so it`s wiser to build for the future insted of forcing things for the present. Players will have YEARS to bond together and form a united group, a true TEAM.

 

[Wobblz]

There is a reason why top clubs are historically located in the North and not South of Italy. I`m thinking of values like organization, ambition [demanding club with demanding staff], strategy, determination, work rate and winning mentality.

Most successful clubs are based in the north of Italy, in particular, simply because of money.

Not some metaphysical reason which makes Italians from the north better people with their determination and work-rate, it's just an extension of socioeconomics.

Where there is money, there are successful clubs. You can correlate Serie A's decline with the stagnant Italian economy and in fact, we can extrapolate and state that every other country's domestic league is pretty much as powerful as its economy nowadays.

The same differences may apply to certain nations/regions, with their own exceptions from this theory. There is a reason why we usually prefer argentine players rather than brazilians, but this also has its exceptions.

About Latin American football talent imports in Europe, we have to dig into some stats to be fully objective, but my subjective view on the matter is that both countries continue to be the main exporters of talent in the world.

If you're talking about why we and Serie A in general, prefer players from Argentine, we could argue that foremost, many Argentines have Italian roots (like Messi, to name one), so they have or can easily acquire Italian passports. A very valuable asset, when it comes to foreign player quotas. I'm guessing that a certain percentage of them also speak Italian and all in all Spanish is more similar to Italian than Portuguese. That said are there more Argentine players in Portugal, than Brazilians? I doubt that, and it has nothing to do with mentality, work-ethics or what not.


Also, I'm guessing here, as I follow neither the Brazilian, nor the Argentine leagues, but I think the Primera is more related to Serie A than the Brasileirao - slightly more defensive and tactical. A testament to this could be Gabriel Barbosa's current situation, and I fail to remember an Argentine import that had such troubles settling in, especially hearing similar comments that he should adapt to the playing style.

If you have the money, it seems a safer bet to make sure our dominant contingent is italian. They may feel more attached to the club, knowing its history and perhaps willing to make history, not just coming over to play for big salary like Yaya Toure/Witsel - mercenary kind of guys. Loyalty is unfortunately a rare value in today`s football.

Well, the most loyal player in our modern history is an Argentine. Go figure. And albeit I agree to a certain extent that Italians are expected to be more attached to the badge, this doesn't change the fact that it could be the opposite. For example, our very own youth product Balo - a faithful Milanista, doesn't miss an opportunity to prove his love to our cousins and his disloyalty towards us on every occasion, although Inter has given him a place under the spotlight. And there are many more players that were rooting for city rivals in their childhood but gave their best elsewhere.

Anyway, I'm trying to say it's no guarantee and it goes both ways, but that's not what's important. Skills should be more valued than loyalty. Schelotto seemed to love the club with all his heart, after all, he tattooed his derby goal against Milan on his forearm, but this did not convert him into a club legend, not even a decent rotation option. Santon and Ranocchia have basically spent most of their careers with us, born and bread with Inter, but are they starters?

And now, to your original post.

I have a good feeling about this transfer since all the elements are there for his success, but for me the most important factor is MENTALITY . Born and raised in Bergamo [between Milano and Brescia - where Pirlo was born] - this is a crucial factor in players reaching top potential and constantly improving. This is what Brazilians usually lack, and they start to decline towards the end of their career.

I can name some names if you'd like - there are as many consistent performing imports from Brazil, even in the dawn of their careers, as there are Adrianos. The sheer volume of Brazilian players in Europe makes it easy to find patterns. What about Miranda, a player that is a pillar of our defense and is almost 33, is he a lazy and mentally weak Brazilian?


Anyhow, we should understand that it's much easier to play in your home country - you don't have to travel an ocean to see your friends and family, and everything you know from childhood. It is only human that some players get homesick, decline and move back to their country of origin for the rest of their career. Tevez could still play on top level in Europe, but he chose to go back to Argentina (and now China for a final payout, also understandable).

Italians usually age like old wine, because they keep pushing themselves and are hungry for more. You guys probably know the mentality differences between North and South of Italy, so I'm confident he will be a great player one day.

And what about good old Ranocchia, born in Assisi, north of Rome? What went wrong with him? Didn't his personal motivator help with the mentality issues he was having? Or was he simply not born just north enough?


Actually, one of the better Italian players in our squad, D'Ambrosio, was born in Naples. Some other players born in the South of Italy - Criscito who's Darmian's alternative, Quagliarella, Abate, Cannavaro, Di Natale, Donnarumma, Immobile, Conte, Gattuso and so on and so forth.

Generalisations only take us this far.

 

[Ronaldo]

From what I understand, the closest midfielder in Inter to Gagliardini is Kondogbia? If so, this probably means that the Kondo man isn't in Inter's future plans. We can't have one of the highest paid players in the team to stay on the bench. We already have Mario, Banega, Brozovic, and most likely Gagliardini and Gustavo/Leiva. We're probably just waiting for some club to make an acceptable offer for Kondogbia.

I think between our midfielders he is the least similar to Kondogbia. Kondogbia is a box-to-box midfielder and in no way a playmaker. This guy's strength is his passing ability.

 

[Harpsabu]

Never heard tell of this guy and we are gona spend 30 million on him because he's a young italian. Has he had half a good season or something? I think this move is madness. If there are kovavics and brozovics for under 10-15 m euro, fuck young italian talent

 

[JJM]

Inb4 he is labeled the new Korndog

 

[Il Drago]

Never heard tell of this guy and we are gona spend 30 million on him because he's a young italian. Has he had half a good season or something? I think this move is madness. If there are kovavics and brozovics for under 10-15 m euro, fuck young italian talent

Not even half a season. 3 months. He wasn't starting for Atalanta before October. 30m for someone who has started just 8 games at Atalanta this season and a year ago he was struggling for regular playing time at Vicenza. I really hope that kid ends up really good for us but this deal reminds me of EPL clubs hugely overpaying for English promising youngsters.

 

[Sassuolu]

Benvenuto Roberto and I sincerely wish you good luck in our shirt

I have a good feeling about this transfer since all the elements are there for his success, but for me the most important factor is MENTALITY . Born and raised in Bergamo [between Milano and Brescia - where Pirlo was born] - this is a crucial factor in players reaching top potential and constantly improving. This is what Brazilians usually lack, and they start to decline towards the end of their career.

This factor was widely underrated by Inter and did not represent a priority when we used to buy players in the last 6 years [financial reasons, I guess]. That is because our Scouting Network and Directore Sportivo were looking for players with certain TECHNICAL and PHYSICAL attributes for a certain role, but did not emphasize on the PSYCHIC. As a result, we got all kind of players that seemed appropriate, but failed to live up to expectations and did not deliver on top level. Not everyone can handle pressure management, consistently obtaining good results [winning mentality]. I won't name players, you already know them.

Italians usually age like old wine, because they keep pushing themselves and are hungry for more. You guys probably know the mentality differences between North and South of Italy, so I'm confident he will be a great player one day. It will take some time for that, especially given that he's a midfielder, but I have no doubt he will do it.

The fact that we are linked to players like Verratti, Berardi/Bernardeschi, Darmian & Acerbi makes me happy. It means we have spending power and we`re going for the top young players available, to forge a TEAM in it`s true meaning and build for several years of success.

I wish him many trophies won @ our club!

It depends on the individual but I agree the club's approach has changed, Suning are fucking serious.

 

[Harpsabu]

Not even half a season. 3 months. He wasn't starting for Atalanta before October. 30m for someone who has started just 8 games at Atalanta this season and a year ago he was struggling for regular playing time at Vicenza. I really hope that kid ends up really good for us but this deal reminds me of EPL clubs hugely overpaying for English promising youngsters.

I don't get why we just dont save this money and go for Veratti. Hope he proves me wrong but shocking nonetheless

 

[Sassuolu]

Not even half a season. 3 months. He wasn't starting for Atalanta before October. 30m for someone who has started just 8 games at Atalanta this season and a year ago he was struggling for regular playing time at Vicenza. I really hope that kid ends up really good for us but this deal reminds me of EPL clubs hugely overpaying for English promising youngsters.

Consider his wages and getting young talent costs because you're most paying for potential, this buy shows Suning's willingness to bring young Italian talent over to Inter. If it fail, so what but for all intents and purposes Gagliardini has good physical and technical abilties which could an asset.

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I don't get why we just dont save this money and go for Veratti. Hope he proves me wrong but shocking nonetheless

Verratti costs much more and he's a summer target, we can't get Verratti on loan for 6 million.

 

[Il Drago]

Gagliardini-Inter, negotiations proceed: The latest

The target has been set, and now negotiations proceed: The meetings for Gagliardini are now intensifying. So far no setbacks in the talks that would bring the young Italian talent to Inter. The only delays have occurred due to the translation process of some contracts from Italian to English, and then to Chinese.

No alarm bells for the Inter management, only optimism in the air as the negotiations should make significant progress in the next hours. Despite the advancements in the deal, the Atalanta player will not go through medical checkups today, he will wait for any new developments that should come to light between today and tomorrow.

Source: gianlucadimarzio.com

 

[moii]

Im originally with the ones who hope this wont stop us from getting Veratti in the summer. If Veratti ends up being to expensive for us now I dont see what were doing honestly, I would really think it would be a smarter approach to use this 30M + whatever else on one of the best and young midfielders out there.

 

[Bluenine]

The meetings for Gagliardini are now intensifying. So far no setbacks in the talks that would bring the young Italian talent to Inter. The only delays have occurred due to the translation process of some contracts from Italian to English, and then to Chinese.

An Italian player going from one Italian club to another Italian club, and we have translation issues? Fucking Chinese need to learn some Italian if they want to run Inter!

At least the fax machine seems to be working :work:

 

[Wobblz]

An Italian player going from one Italian club to another Italian club, and we have translation issues? Fucking Chinese need to learn some Italian if they want to run Inter!

At least the fax machine seems to be working :work:

On the contrary, Italians have to learn some Chinese quick.

 

[Efrain21C]

An Italian player going from one Italian club to another Italian club, and we have translation issues? Fucking Chinese need to learn some Italian if they want to run Inter!

At least the fax machine seems to be working :work:

Actually the italians club that make transfer with Inter should learn chinese lol. Whos got the spending power now?