Ricardo Quaresma

[Forza ragazzi]

Honestly I don't give a fuck if he flip-flops on the center of the field, if he delievers. Agreed.

But the point was, that I would LIKE to see him do the stuff wingers usually do, and he hasn't done it yet. That was the discussion I was in.

Yeah, but I don't understand the point of discussing it. This goes to Cafe as well, because if Quaresma can create danger by cutting inside, why do you guys want him to go outside?

I believe you must've misread, cafe, because I say he doesn't need to go outside if he can create chances by cutting inside.

 

[Luka]

I can say for myself, that I want it, because that's what he did at Porto, and there is where he was most effective + great crosses.

I want to see this.

 

[cloudq]

he plays with too much pressure

when he arrived, he was hyped to be a viable alternative to cristiano ronaldo

he just wasnt ready for italian defenses, how cynical they are and how little time he has on the ball at inter...

especially with ibra attracting so much of the attacking play, and also how inter seem to play on the counter the majority of matches...

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, but I don't understand the point of discussing it. This goes to Cafe as well, because if Quaresma can create danger by cutting inside, why do you guys want him to go outside?

I believe you must've misread, cafe, because I say he doesn't need to go outside if he can create chances by cutting inside.

Yes I understand your point. My point is, in my opinion Quaresma won't be as effective when cutting inside because he doesn't have qualities to give great passes from there. That's why I like to see him going past defenders to crossing positions because he have great qualities to do good from there.

I don't want him to go outside if he can create danger by cutting inside. My opinion is that he can't he can't create danger as much when cutting inside than when going outside. That's why I'd like to see him going outside more.

 

[blackmore]

he will rip shit up this season....

 

[Campione]

Am I the only who think that Ricky has shown nothing in these pre-season games?

 

[CafeCordoba]

Am I the only who think that Ricky has shown nothing in these pre-season games?

You're not. This is what I've been talking about. There's been nothing yet we expected from him at the first place (last season).

If someone says "it's just pre-season", yeah it is. But then why we praise Milito, which undoubtedly has been pretty good, but then we can't criticize those players who haven't shown anything yet?

 

[mournickio]

You're not. This is what I've been talking about. There's been nothing yet we expected from him at the first place (last season).

If someone says "it's just pre-season", yeah it is. But then why we praise Milito, which undoubtedly has been pretty good, but then we can't criticize those players who haven't shown anything yet?

I think its harsh to say hasnt showed anything.

From what i saw he seemed more mature with his movements but of course not yet near the level he should be.It seems that at least he is trying improve his game.

 

[sakana]

After last season our standards are admittedly low but, compared to how he was when we saw him last, I'd say he's showed a ton of improvement so far. We'll see what happens once it matters.

 

[junior55]

I was one of them who thought that the bad last season of quaresma was because of the great pressure of the fans in san siro but after i saw the game against monaco yesterday i am fully convinced that will be the same history this season too. I noticed this pre-season that he is more motivated to do smth he searches the ball during the game(the opposite of mancini that yesterday was sleeping in the left wing) but he just isn't the talent we all thought. After taking the ball he dribles smn and than loses the ball or just crosses from too far away in the midfield(in my experience this crosses never bring results). So i say that mou will better give up on "trivella" and better hope on obi which i liked yesterday.

 

[rfU]

I think its harsh to say hasnt showed anything.

From what i saw he seemed more mature with his movements but of course not yet near the level he should be.It seems that at least he is trying improve his game.

my question is, why should we settle? We're Inter, not some mid-table club with aspirations of qualifying for the UEFA cup. Ricardo wasn't even good for Porto or Sporting (I've watched him since his U17s days), he wont do anything for us, nothing. Mourinho was arrogant enough to think that because Terry, Lampard and Drogba played amazingly during his tenure, he had something to do with it, and thus could bring the best out of Quaresma... well he was wrong, and Moratti was stupid enough to listen to him... I will say this though, he's better than Mancini who we should just get rid of this instant.

 

[A.l.i]

Well, it's good you told us. We can be much more relaxed now.

The Monaco game brought you down to earth. I'm so sorry.

 

[mournickio]

Mourinho was arrogant enough to think that because Terry, Lampard and Drogba played amazingly during his tenure, he had something to do with it, and thus could bring the best out of Quaresma... well he was wrong, and Moratti was stupid enough to listen to him... I will say this though, he's better than Mancini who we should just get rid of this instant.

No offence mate but I think u talking crap here. Terry would have never reached the level he is now i.e. chelsea leader and England's Captain,if it wasnt mourinho he would be just be one of the defenders playing in the national team,not in a million yrs.

Lampard was a good midfielder when mourinho arrived and during his days and after he left he fuckin scores 20 goals a season,he made him a goal machine.1 year he was even one of the best players in the world according to FIFA.

Drogba was a flop after his 1st season with chelsea,but can anybody call him a flop now?He believed in him and continuously played despite critics and now his doing crazy things.

On the contrary to these players that really own much to mourinho, Quaresma just doesnt have strong mentality to achieve great things and this probably not even a coach like him can change.

and as for mancini he was bought by Branca -Oriali so its their mistake,mourinho ask for a winger and they gave him mancini.

From what ur are saying its clear u didnt really followed his chelsea tenure to saying this things.

 

[rfU]

No offence mate but I think u talking crap here. Terry would have never reached the level he is now i.e. chelsea leader and England's Captain,if it wasnt mourinho he would be just be one of the defenders playing in the national team,not in a million yrs.

Lampard was a good midfielder when mourinho arrived and during his days and after he left he fuckin scores 20 goals a season,he made him a goal machine.1 year he was even one of the best players in the world according to FIFA.

Drogba was a flop after his 1st season with chelsea,but can anybody call him a flop now?He believed in him and continuously played despite critics and now his doing crazy things.

On the contrary to these players that really own much to mourinho, Quaresma just doesnt have strong mentality to achieve great things and this probably not even a coach like him can change.

and as for mancini he was bought by Branca -Oriali so its their mistake,mourinho ask for a winger and they gave him mancini.

From what ur are saying its clear u didnt really followed his chelsea tenure to saying this things.

too late... offence taken... i take it back that Mourinho had nothing to do with Terry, Lampard, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole and Drogba's reaching prominence, Mourinho is fantastic man-manager, he instills belief and discipline in most of the players he manages... that said many of the Chelsea players were already bordering on world class, he built on their potential as they were already established players... also note these weren't players he brought to the club... if you want to point Mourinho successes look no further than Porto... Many coaches request players that backfire like a mutha... But Mourinho especially requested Quaresma... I've watched Quaresma many games (after returing from Barca) and I have never been impressed. So I'm wondering, what exactly was Mourinho thinking, why insist on such a player, spending so much money... why not build on Mancini's 4-3-1-2 formation, learn more about the Italian game, instead of playing 4-2-4 or forcing the 4-3-3 down everyone's throats...

I respect 'no way' Jose a great deal... I love the way he distracts his opponets with his over-the-top comments (ziru tituli ) taking the pressure off his own players... he's done very well with Santon and even Balotelli. But 30 million Euro for an unproven player??? Not only that, but Quresma is perhaps the biggest flop of all time, worse than Adri (Wooohh!) ... this will taint Mourinho for quite awhile... What a stain... All the Persil in the world couldn't shift it

 

[VLE]

and as for mancini he was bought by Branca -Oriali so its their mistake,mourinho ask for a winger and they gave him mancini.

Proof please.
I love how you turn every blame into Inter and make Mourinho look so innocent.
You are gonna call Milito & Motta buy as Inter buy if they flop, and Mourinho buy if they do well too, right?

ANY person who has watched roma games for more than two seasons would have gone against A.Mancini.

 

[Nyall]

VLE, you're full of shit it's not even funny. You're so blinded by your hatred for Mourinho/ love affair for Mancini that I bet that if Inter to win the UCL under Jose the first person you'd thank was Mancini.

 

[VLE]

VLE, you're full of shit it's not even funny. You're so blinded by your hatred for Mourinho/ love affair for Mancini that I bet that if Inter to win the UCL under Jose the first person you'd thank was Mancini.

I know who writes more nonsense when your every tactical prediction just goes wrong. It's so hard when those just don't come by googling.
No one who watches roma league game would have bought him. Now logically fill in my whatever into that sentence. If I was targeting Mourinho directly, I would be talking about RQ.

BTW, why aren't you in the Barca forum? Follow Ibra, go now boy.

 

[mournickio]

Proof please.
I love how you turn every blame into Inter and make Mourinho look so innocent.
You are gonna call Milito & Motta buy as Inter buy if they flop, and Mourinho buy if they do well too, right?

ANY person who has watched roma games for more than two seasons would have gone against A.Mancini.

Why u always exaggerate things?Whether motta -milito flop or become superstars it its will be the same with me.SO u like talkin shit,u do.

I blame mourinho for buying quaresma who floped, but mancini has nothing to do with mourinho its pretty obvious,he doesnt have the characteristics that mourinho is looking for so its no way his buy.
Muntari is sure his buy,he didnt floped but he is what he is uncreative hardworker.

Im telling u that the same way sheva was not his purchase so does mancini.

Why do u always make others look innocent VLE? Mancini who managed to create a squad of 30 players,10-15 of which useless.WHy branca and oriali cant take actions to get rid off them? why u never blame others?
At least i havent seen that.

 

[mournickio]

too late... offence taken... i take it back that Mourinho had nothing to do with Terry, Lampard, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole and Drogba's reaching prominence, Mourinho is fantastic man-manager, he instills belief and discipline in most of the players he manages... that said many of the Chelsea players were already bordering on world class, he built on their potential as they were already established players... also note these weren't players he brought to the club... if you want to point Mourinho successes look no further than Porto... Many coaches request players that backfire like a mutha...

I agree that quaresma is a flop of the flops( 18.6m i think not 30) but every coach buys a flop here and there so u cant change that.Look at benitez buys in the recent years, he freakin bought Keane for 20 and sold him for 12m in 3 months later.But u cant deny how great manager the fatty is.

Apart from terry, lampard,j.cole almost all the other players were brought by him. J.cole was nobody before mourinho came,he was chelsea bench player and after some time jose made him to a player that is 1st teamer for England man,u cant deny this things.His development was immense.

By looking at how Santon and balotelli( less) developing so far u can see that he plays a huge for them. Same role he played at chelsea for many players.

As for the system u are saying,every coach has his ideas and his philosophy.The philosophy of the current Inter is nowhere near to a succesful team in europe.U cant change that from one day to another,and it seems u cant change the brains of players like cambiasso,stankovic,muntari to play fast football.

 

[VLE]

I blamed Mancio for having lack of guts and changing formation on every important matches. I also blamed him for trusting too much on some players, furthermore not kicking Adriano out but I'm not sure if he did acutally have power to kick him out.

Regarding transfer, don't even speak about it. In two years we spent more than what we spent 4 yrs previously, and we still can't even fix midfields, when it was obvious we needed playmaker in the first place. We bought four midfield starters, which two are CM/DM we already have too much, and another two are now just 'optional'. Not even a freaking backup. If you did acutally follow Mourinho, when did he EVER make a squad that didn't fit into his best formation? In what way, other than media talks, does Mourinho's Inter have anything that shows his merits which he was able to show in his Chelsea days? Do we have an amazing counter? No. Do we have a sturdy defense? No. Do we have feared setpiece? No. Then what else is left with Mourinho that won him matches?

I don't blame him for making RQ or A.Mancini buy, though A.Mancini buy was one of the worst transfers ever. I wouldn't blamed him for missing out Arshavin, Nasri or Hleb last season if he sticked to 433, which would have solved our problem just with 15m, not 90m+ whatever the AM costs, because shit can happen and players may flop.

However, I do blame him for how he can't even get two players per position after two seasons. Go 433 again, and if RQ or Mancini fails he is gonna jump back to 4312. Get a playmaker, like Sneijder or VDV or whoever, and he fails Mourinho is gonna jump back to 433. You don't risk a season on one player. I thought he learned it by now.

What I criticize on Mourinho has nothing to do with whoever or whatever I favor or not. When I make a critize on his mistakes, and all you can do is pull something that is completely irrelevent to defend him (how is Mancio got to do with any of the transfers) , it truely is a sad day for Inter and Mourinho.