New Stadium

[DARi0]

Inter have ‘priority’ for stadium in Rozzanop​

Rozzano’s mayor Giovanni Ferretti confirms Inter have the ‘priority’ for a feasibility study for a new 70,000-seat stadium and hopes the project will be completed by the beginning of 2025.

With Milan moving away from San Siro and building a new stadium in the area of San Donato by 2029, Inter are also working to build their new home. The Nerazzurri have identified Rozzano, a city just outside Milan, but still part of the Metropolitan City, as the venue for their new home.

“Inter want to build a stadium with a capacity of 70,000 and a sports city close by,” Rozzano’s mayor Giovanni Ferretti told Radio Nerazzurra on Monday.

“It’s an area that can be enjoyed throughout the week, not only for match days. With shops, a museum, restaurants and pitches to play five-a-side football, beach volleyball and padel. We know an extensive infrastructure can’t be built without an adequate traffic plan.

“The project has not started yet. Inter have the priority until April to verify a feasibility study,” continued Ferretti.

“That will be the first step and then the whole process will start and be completed between the end of 2024 and the start of 2025.”

Feasibility study lol that means nothing... So they started from scratch

 

[Gal]

Ahhh Italian bureaucracy

 

[DARi0]

speaking of it:

City of Milan appeals against San Siro protection order​

The Milan city council has officially lodged an appeal against the verdict which effectively banned the demolition of the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza.

Both Milan and Inter have already begun the process of building their own individual 70,000-seat arenas in different areas outside the city.

They had hoped to build a new shared stadium in the car park area next to the existing Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, then knock that arena down.

However, in July the iconic arena and specifically the second tier was placed under a protection order by the Superitendent for Archeology, Fine Arts and Countryside that is generally used to prevent changes to architecture of historic or cultural importance.

It can only be applied when a structure is at least 70 years old, and the second tier will reach that age in 2025.

The Mayor of Milan Giuseppe Sala and the council today voted to lodge a formal appeal, hoping to have that ruling overturned.

They still believe that Milan and Inter could remain at San Siro if given the opportunity to build there, despite the fact this project has been dragging on for years with absolutely no progress.

Undersecretary to the Minister for Culture Vittorio Sgarbi has made it clear he adamantly refuses to even consider the possibility of knocking down the San Siro stadium.

now mayor Sala is trying to act like the "good guy" in trying to "bring back" the clubs into the city..

 

[Gal]

This saga is soon worthy to be played in the opera

Sala who seem to change mind every odd day, like the lover who wants you but then does not fully want you and play tricks without your heart and mind.

Oh well it’s Italy, can’t say I’m surprised

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

Ahhh Italian bureaucracy

Yeah, feasibility studies are exclusively an "Italian bureaucracy" thing. Like you're Danish...you guys cant even build a mailbox without having to grovel to the eco-terrorists.

 

[Gal]

Yeah, feasibility studies are exclusively an "Italian bureaucracy" thing. Like you're Danish...you guys cant even build a mailbox without having to grovel to the eco-terrorists.

I can guarantee we have just a mere fraction of the bureaucracy that exists in Italy, you just don’t see remotely the same obstacles caused by bureaucracy here, even Germany is bureaucratic nightmare in comparison, it’s one of the easiest places to start up a company for example. Sure in some cases it causes some delays but we aren’t talking a complete halt for decades or to extend where infrastructure collapses. One of the biggest issues in italy and obstacles for financial growth currently is bureaucracy, the stadiums not being built is a prime example of the bureaucracy issues existing in Italy.

The eco is in fact the European legislation causing it, it is rarely also causing any serious delays and obstacles.

I can guarantee it’s much easier and faster to build something in Denmark then in Italy. Denmark is one of the least bureaucratic countries not just in Europe but in the world.. had Italy same level we would be playing on that new stadium by now and it probably would have been several years old.

Having lived other places, the amount of bureaucracy here is manageable. Everywhere else Ive been it tenfold as bad if not more

 

[ADRossi]

People still care about international football? It's just a bunch of teams with foreigners now.

I'm curious at what point you think international football wasn't a bunch of team with foreigners? Italy has been winning World Cups with players born in Argentina since the 1930s.

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

I'm curious at what point you think international football wasn't a bunch of team with foreigners? Italy has been winning World Cups with players born in Argentina since the 1930s.

That's really disingenuous. C'mon...

 

[brehme1989]

Yeah that "I was born here, thus I'm of this nation" is rather hogwash.
I wouldn't be Chinese if I were born in China by the same parents. I'd be Chinese if I were born by Chinese parents. Anywhere in the world.

Those "Argentinians" were Italians. You cannot mix colonial nations with ethnic nations.
Maybe all except one.

In this day and age, the concept of a national team is lost because of how societies are structured, but the international game was okay even with these paremeters. But lately you can even pull "transfers". It's even worse in basketball where you can "naturalize" some random American that's never been nor knows where your country is and suddenly he's your starting guard at the next Euro

Senna in Spain, Jorginho in Italy and so on. You're Spain and Italy, not Malta or Luxembourg. You don't need this.

 

[Fitzy]

Here we go again...

 

[qb4ever_2k]

My take on national football is that it should be scrapped altogether. Taking national pride on how well 11 guys/gals kick a round object around is among the stupidest things ever. I love football, but it should stay a stupid thing that we enjoy for no reason, national pride? hell fucking no.

 

[brehme1989]

My take on national football is that it should be scrapped altogether. Taking national pride on how well 11 guys/gals kick a round object around is among the stupidest things ever. I love football, but it should stay a stupid thing that we enjoy for no reason, national pride? hell fucking no.

If you want to be consistent, which I assume you are, you would have all team sports scrapped from the Olympics and individual athletes shouldn't carry the flag of their federation which qualified to the tournament from and for.

And to take it a level further, let's just mix up all leagues together, no need for national leagues.

#Superleagueme

Another thing would be to screw derbies, and screw being limited to a city. Let my team play everywhere. Why limit yourself to a rental stadium?


So effectively, if you want to take that approach, you're opening a can of worms that eventually not many will be willing to consume and the whole edifice collapses.
I'd rather keep a comical NT situation than scrapping it, mostly because I see how society takes full advantage of any small concessions are made at times. And it's rarely for the best.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Take this conversation elsewhere.

 

[NimAraya]

Take this conversation elsewhere.

Where else? Isn't this the bullshit thread?

 

[Mikele]

I remmeber when decades ago, only 2 or 3 foriners were allowed to play for club. That was real football. Dinamo Kiev, Steaua, Red Star, Nothingam Forest and few others. Now, you have only 3-5 clubs who can win CL. Football becames borring to watch.

 

[NimAraya]

I remmeber when decades ago, only 2 or 3 foriners were allowed to play for club. That was real football. Dinamo Kiev, Steaua, Red Star, Nothingam Forest and few others. Now, you have only 3-5 clubs who can win CL. Football becames borring to watch.

They solved this problem by letting those foreigners plays for the NTs as well.

 

[ADRossi]

Yeah that "I was born here, thus I'm of this nation" is rather hogwash.
I wouldn't be Chinese if I were born in China by the same parents. I'd be Chinese if I were born by Chinese parents. Anywhere in the world.

Those "Argentinians" were Italians. You cannot mix colonial nations with ethnic nations.
Maybe all except one.

In this day and age, the concept of a national team is lost because of how societies are structured, but the international game was okay even with these paremeters. But lately you can even pull "transfers". It's even worse in basketball where you can "naturalize" some random American that's never been nor knows where your country is and suddenly he's your starting guard at the next Euro

Senna in Spain, Jorginho in Italy and so on. You're Spain and Italy, not Malta or Luxembourg. You don't need this.

Luis Monti - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Definitely Italian! It's not like he was simply bribed by Mussolini!

 

[brehme1989]

Luis Monti - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Definitely Italian! It's not like he was simply bribed by Mussolini!

So his mummy and daddy plus 4 grandparents suddenly weren't Italian because they had a kid in the other side of the world? Come on, man.

Only Guarisi is debatable because he had a Brazilian (ie Portuguese) father and an Italian mother. Everyone else was as Italian as it gets.

 

[Black Knight]

You're Spain and Italy, not Malta or Luxembourg. You don't need this.

u wot m8?

 

[ADRossi]

So his mummy and daddy plus 4 grandparents suddenly weren't Italian because they had a kid in the other side of the world? Come on, man.

Only Guarisi is debatable because he had a Brazilian (ie Portuguese) father and an Italian mother. Everyone else was as Italian as it gets.

He was born in Argentina, grew up in Argentina, and played for Argentina. That is, by definition, an Argentinian. He would have never played a second of football for Italy if Mussolini didn't show up at his door with a cash offer.

You can sit here and wax poetic about how things used to be, or you can accept the reality that things haven't changed at all. They're just on a larger, more corporate scale because there's even more money in the sport. This nonsense has been going on since the sport was invented. Enjoy international football for what it is and move on.