Lucien Agoumé

[magnesium]

doesnt make the preseason cut (Japan tour), so, yeah, seems like he might be worse than gagliardini

or he's about to transfer in the next few days

His fate is become plusvalenza for transfer target for a player from France Ligue 1. Next year maybe we will see transfer money + Agoume As counterpart. Same as other plusvalenza.

 

[.h.]

His fate is become plusvalenza for transfer target for France club. Next year maybe we will see transfer money + agoume as counterpart.

Yeah, I suspect so.

 

[Corrode]

His fate is become plusvalenza for transfer target for a player from France Ligue 1. Next year maybe we will see transfer money + Agoume As counterpart. Same as other plusvalenza.

full Nostradamus here

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Oof. Was hoping this guy could pan out to be a decent player but if it hasn’t happened by now it probably won’t. Better to offload him if we can.

 

[Neroazzurr4]

So Inzaghi is trying to "tell me" that there was a place in the team for Gagliardini while there is no place for Agoume? ...Okay.

 

[wera]

So Inzaghi is trying to "tell me" that there was a place in the team for Gagliardini while there is no place for Agoume? ...Okay.

Is Agoume really a better player than Gags? I used to hope he would pan out, but he didn't. Inzaghi trusted Gagliardini more than any club trusted Agoume.

 

[Neroazzurr4]

I seriously doubt it that he can be worse than Gagliardini.

 

[magnesium]

Agoume was 19 or 20 last season. Now he 21. Gagliardini Will accept bench option, when Agoume seems reluctant because he want improve. I doubt our management accept Agoume as 6th midfielder as they don't want Agoume lose his value as plusvalenza.

 

[wera]

I seriously doubt it that he can be worse than Gagliardini.

Yeah because that's how football works. Maybe it's just that Gags in 352 doesn't do enough in attack, while in 4231, he didn't have to. He isn't good enough to be a starter for Inter, but understanding football is also a skill. Gags was always worth more to Spalletti, Conte and Inzaghi than Agoume or any other 'Agoume' along the way.

If we had a different approach to developing players, maybe Agoume would be in the squad all these years, but I still doubt he would be a starter for us.

 

[.h.]

Yeah because that's how football works. Maybe it's just that Gags in 352 doesn't do enough in attack, while in 4231, he didn't have to. He isn't good enough to be a starter for Inter, but understanding football is also a skill. Gags was always worth more to Spalletti, Conte and Inzaghi than Agoume or any other 'Agoume' along the way.

If we had a different approach to developing players, maybe Agoume would be in the squad all these years, but I still doubt he would be a starter for us.

TBH, I'm a firm believer that if you're gonna make it, you'll make it anyway. You cant 'coach' mediocre talent into being a top level Serie A player, and considering we often get rid of our kids if they look like not making it around 20/21/22, they still have (small, but non-zero) chance of making it

I dont think we have any regretted youth sales in the last decade, you could argue for Bonucci and Zaniolo, MAYBE Biraghi, but that'd be about it? The rest havent proven an ability to be significantly useful for Inter

 

[Corrode]

I seriously doubt it that he can be worse than Gagliardini.

it doesn't surprising. Inzaghi even make Asllani sat too long at the bench along the season despite Asllani has been emerged as one of best players from Empoli in 2021/2022 season. He can make Asllani like just a passenger at Inter bench, let alone Agoume who has relegated with Troyes last season.

it's just Inzaghi, Marotta and Zhang thing that they are allergic to youth player so far.

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683452588203671553

 

[PpanY]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683452588203671553

We will use him to lure Mbappe here

 

[CafeCordoba]

TBH, I'm a firm believer that if you're gonna make it, you'll make it anyway. You cant 'coach' mediocre talent into being a top level Serie A player, and considering we often get rid of our kids if they look like not making it around 20/21/22, they still have (small, but non-zero) chance of making it

I dont think we have any regretted youth sales in the last decade, you could argue for Bonucci and Zaniolo, MAYBE Biraghi, but that'd be about it? The rest havent proven an ability to be significantly useful for Inter

And Zaniolo sale was not about us not believing in him. It was about Roma requesting him or we couldn't get Nainggolan. It was a matter of preferences. That's why it took so long because we didn't initially want to lose him.

Don't remember about Bonucci but I could guess it was a bit similar case. We wanted immediate success instead of waiting young guy to blossom.

Biraghi is maybe the only good example for this discussion. He was good enough for Inter when he was here on loan but we couldn't agree with Fiorentina for the transfer.

 

[.h.]

And Zaniolo sale was not about us not believing in him. It was about Roma requesting him or we couldn't get Nainggolan. It was a matter of preferences. That's why it took so long because we didn't initially want to lose him.

Don't remember about Bonucci but I could guess it was a bit similar case. We wanted immediate success instead of waiting young guy to blossom.

Biraghi is maybe the only good example for this discussion. He was good enough for Inter when he was here on loan but we couldn't agree with Fiorentina for the transfer.

I generally agree but my point was that those are kids who succeed. All the others haven't been able to get to anything like an Inter useful level imho.


Bouncing reduced the cost of Motta and Milito significantly, so we needed to do that transaction for the treble really

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1687043806699401216

 

[Gal]

Inter should just sell him to a french club if that is where his heart is at.. I know he has some decent talent, but no good if he wants to go back home. Then just use him as a bargaining chip or swap for another talent…

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689245663400165376

 

[#NotForMe]

You cant 'coach' mediocre talent into being a top level Serie A player

I agree, but we can "destroy" a top talent that can develop into a top level Serie A player.

Also

TBH, I'm a firm believer that if you're gonna make it, you'll make it anyway.

I'm a firm believer that both nature and nurture influence human behavior, let alone achievement. It is actually quite proven.
Obviously, you can use extreme outliers as counter example for argument purpose (like mentally retarded or genius) that for some people the external factor (nurture) cannot change much in a relative manner to the rest of the population, but it still cannot deny the fact that NOT everyone that are gonna make it are still gonna make it anyway, regardless the what external factors are there.

You kind remind me one of the reasons why I like Mancini a lot back then, cause he does try to develop some players that are somewhat on the fence of making it or not, I would even consider JC, Maicon as one of them, (maybe or maybe not Balotelli), the questionable ones are Luis Jiménez, Pelé, even on his second time he was willing to try Alassane Traoré, and you can see at least some of them might work out, at least to the level of a utility player for Inter.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I agree, but we can "destroy" a top talent that can develop into a top level Serie A player.

Also


I'm a firm believer that both nature and nurture influence human behavior, let alone achievement. It is actually quite proven.
Obviously, you can use extreme outliers as counter example for argument purpose (like mentally retarded or genius) that for some people the external factor (nurture) cannot change much in a relative manner to the rest of the population, but it still cannot deny the fact that NOT everyone that are gonna make it are still gonna make it anyway, regardless the what external factors are there.

You kind remind me one of the reasons why I like Mancini a lot back then, cause he does try to develop some players that are somewhat on the fence of making it or not, I would even consider JC, Maicon as one of them, (maybe or maybe not Balotelli), the questionable ones are Luis Jiménez, Pelé, even on his second time he was willing to try Alassane Traoré, and you can see at least some of them might work out, at least to the level of a utility player for Inter.

Yeah I agree. The nurturing, the environment you are growing, everything affects you and how you grow. Inter have probably fucked up lot of kids careers and so have happened to kids in many other clubs aswell.