Italian Serie A 2021/2022

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[bubba zanetti]

They'll bounce back. Allegri will find the way. But its really cool to see them suffer now.

 

[Il Drago]

This cushion of points is so important, let's hope it continues to grow. Their next 2 games I'm pretty sure are against Napoli and Milan. Good luck, Max

In 27 matches against Juvetus, Spalletti has 2 wins, 5 draws and 20 losses. He has always been a choker against them so don't expect any favors from Napoli.

 

[PHM1605]

In 27 matches against Juvetus, Spalletti has 2 wins, 5 draws and 20 losses. He has always been a choker against them so don't expect any favors from Napoli.

I believe that stats is similar for every other coaches pre-Pirlo time.

Even Conte lost all two matches 0-2. We & Milan have won them twice each in 40 matches iirc.

 

[Il Drago]

Juventus has problems, is true. But to point the finger only on Paratici is too much! I tend to believe Agnelli and Nedved wanted more to buy Cristiano than Paratici. Marotta was against and Paratici probably only an opportunist. He smelled the occasion to take Marotta's place.
The crux of their problems lied with Ronaldo. He was too expensive for their financial possibilities. I can understand the logic behind it. Ronaldo as the last piece of the puzzle to conquer the CL. They didn't succeed (to our pleasure) but remained with the problems after such a transfer. They didn't have the money to upgrade the team. They switched Cancelo for Danilo and Pianic for Arthur. They even tried to sell Dybala to Spurs.
Now Ronaldo is gone and the problems got bigger. Their defense is old, middle kinda mess (Locatelli will help). The attack is also not settled, even if they have good players. I mean, what kind of problems could Kean solve? He will bring depth, but they really don't have a forward who could play between the CB's (maybe Morata occasionally). They have only SS.

While the signing of Ronaldo certainly had a significant impact on Juventus transfer plans we can't blame everything on him. It isn't Ronaldo's fault Paratici offered massive wages to Ramsey and Rabiot which made it impossible to offload them. It isn't Ronaldo's fault Paratici was more focused on Marotta's plans than his team's needs when he decided to go for Kulusevski instead of getting a forward his team badly needed. It isn't Ronaldo's fault Paratici decided to go for Arthur who was known to be a bad professional and have fitness issues or that the issue of their left side hasn't been addressed in years. It isn't Ronaldo's fault Paratici totally messed up with Romero which has left Juve with grandpas and De Ligt in defence. And last, but not least, it isn't Ronaldo's fault Juve decided to go from Allegri to Sarri to Pirlo only to go back to Allegri.

Paratici may be an excellent scout but the moment Marotta was gone he totally lost the plot and he's the main culprit for the mess of a squad Juve currently have.

 

[ElDuccio]

i remember 3-4 years ago when Juve had a terrible start, and still won the league at the end by winning almost every game starting from november. But as much they had a bad season start, i don't remember that they ever lost to a serie b team at their stadium. And theyre also weaker then 4 years ago, specialy in midfield and defence.

 

[.h.]

They're also objectively quite weak this season, and as I said I think the league winning total is maybe 85 max this season tbh

 

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[YoramG]

It isn't Ronaldo's fault Paratici totally messed up with Romero which has left Juve with grandpas and De Ligt in defence.

Romero - De Ligt would have been fearsome stuff to deal with for 6-7 years. Thank God for Paratici.

Allegri will sort this out by the end of October - if anything, I'd hope for them to keep playing minnows because players are more likely to be up for games against Napoli, Roma, Lazio, and the rest. We need to build as much of a gap as possible.

 

[brehme1989]

Game I'm most hyped tonight about is Salernitana-Roma.

Salerno fans return to Serie A, should be an epic display. Hopefully they're allowed to have enough fans. And it's also a strong character test for Mourinho's Roma.

We also have Genoa-Napoli. I think games like these will show us if Spalletti's Napoli is a top 4 lock or not.
Then we have Milan-Cagliari. Milan is an interesting team in the sense that they're not predictable. You can assume they are going for a top 4 spot, but at the same time it's as likely they collapse to 8th or challenge for the league.

 

[andrei]

Romero - De Ligt would have been fearsome stuff to deal with for 6-7 years. Thank God for Paratici.

Allegri will sort this out by the end of October - if anything, I'd hope for them to keep playing minnows because players are more likely to be up for games against Napoli, Roma, Lazio, and the rest. We need to build as much of a gap as possible.

Did Allegri ever got a team with a weak mentality and turned it around ? .... because he needs to do it now.

This is the real question!!!
It is one thing to take a Milan with many experienced players who won a lot in their past. The same thing with Juventus in the past. He took an established team with more or less no competition in Serie A in his first stint.
Now is another discussion. No one like Ibra, Pirlo, not even like Vidal.

 

[Wings]

This is the real question!!!
It is one thing to take a Milan with many experienced players who won a lot in their past. The same thing with Juventus in the past. He took an established team with more or less no competition in Serie A in his first stint.
Now is another discussion. No one like Ibra, Pirlo, not even like Vidal.

The Milan team he turned around in 12/13 was after they'd sold all their big stars like Ibra and Thiago Silva. Allegri is no stranger to slow starts.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

The Milan team he turned around in 12/13 was after they'd sold all their big stars like Ibra and Thiago Silva. Allegri is no stranger to slow starts.

Agree with the last sentence but I'm pretty sure he didn't turn around anything after that summer, everything just went downhill for him.

 

[virusfever]

Yeah, one could argue that his first title with Milan was more due to Inter's decline and Ibra brilliance than anything. Also don't forget his contribution to Juve success by insisting on pushing out Pirlo to a rival.

 

[varmin]

i remember 3-4 years ago when Juve had a terrible start, and still won the league at the end by winning almost every game starting from november. But as much they had a bad season start, i don't remember that they ever lost to a serie b team at their stadium. And theyre also weaker then 4 years ago, specialy in midfield and defence.

This was their second season under Allegri. First game they lost against Udinese. In that season they had lost Vidal, Pirlo and Tevez but brought in Khedira, Mandzukic, Dybala, Sandro and cuntdrado. Their defense was Bonucci, Chielini in their prime plus Barzagli, Alex Sandro, Evra and Rugani. Marchisio, Pogba and Khedira in the middle and Mandzukic, Dybala and Morata in attack. It's much better team than the current one but I still expect Jube to be in the title race.

 

[Ethor]

Going to watch Sassuolo vs Sampdoria today. Candreva is starting for Sampdoria with Raspardori for Sassuolo .

 

[ADRossi]

Yeah, one could argue that his first title with Milan was more due to Inter's decline and Ibra brilliance than anything. Also don't forget his contribution to Juve success by insisting on pushing out Pirlo to a rival.

Everyone thought Pirlo was finished. It was a shock when he rebounded at Juve.

 

[Ethor]

Holy smokes! Candreva is actually playing pretty good. 0-0 at the half.

 

[morrisama]

uninspiring and toothless Napoli. they are lucky to lead one goal now after very good shot by Fabian Ruiz. Spalleti doesnt use CF in this match which makes Petagna still eat the bench. poor Petagna who actually might have good carreer in small clubs. but, he remains a cunt anyway.

 

[brehme1989]

Meret's been trying hard to concede a goal here and he's achieved that. PapaPandev equalizes.