Antonio Conte

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It’s fair to say that conte is still appraising the current squad and their capabilities. But most arm chair experts fail to understand , including most people here is understanding why Conte doesn’t make changes when the team appears to be struggling during key moments of a game.

There has been talk of the Dortmund game in the champions league. Any half brained expert would have told you something needs to be done to sustain Hakimi. Instead despite having a two goal cushion, conte leaves Brighi who already received a yellow card alone without making any tactical changes.

It’s these instances that most Inter fans question about Conte and wonder why he doesn’t react. I’m not an expert so I will appeal to what Mourinho often refers to as football intuition - the ability to feel out the game and react before it’s too late. Conte does not appear to have it and I believe this explains his bad record against big teams and in Europe in general.
 

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I didn't expect much from him and was against us hiring him but even then he had been a complete disappointment, I always knew he was a shit tactician but at least I expected him to bring some fighting spirit to the team, not even that.

Either we fire him or next season it's gonna be another wasted season.

Allegri is not my favorite but I hope we get him instead.
 

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Our priority should be a Gazidis type of manager. Change should start at the top.
 

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Italian Media Report Inter Not Pleased With Antonio Conte’s Outburst After Bologna Defeat

Inter management were not pleased with Antonio Conte’s most recent outburst following the defeat to Bologna this past weekend according to a report in today’s print edition of Italian daily newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport.

The management did not like some of the comments he made post-match and felt that some of the comments he made were over the top.

Inter expected more from Conte not to the point where he had to win the league in his first season but at least remain in the race for the title far longer.

The report goes on to explain that the former Italian national team manager has become fed up with acting as a lightning rod, even at a media level and he wants to push club management to improve the squad at his disposal.

It adds that there are six players destined to leave and Conte is expecting more from the club’s big name players. It concludes that he wants two players added to the squad above all others and those players are Brescia’s Sandro Tonali and Barcelona’s Arturo Vidal.
 

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That's all well and understandable but how does it look when Inzaghi and Gasperini are doing just as well - or better - with less at their disposal to work with? And I understand expectations are different as far as Scudetti are concerned, but that's also not really my point. Simply in the context of this season, both those teams are out-performing us and those managers are doing fantastic jobs with the squads they have to work with in contrast to what Conte's gotten and what he has to work with.

It's just reflects poorly on him. 18 points dropped from winning positions reflects terribly on this team. If we had only dropped half that total (or the same amount that Juve has dropped, and three more than Lazio has dropped), we'd be in a Scudetto chase. If we hadn't dropped six points from winning positions in the CL and, instead, even dropped five points instead, we'd have made the knockout stages. Losing points from being ahead has killed our chances of winning anything this season other than maybe the Arsenal trophy.

Focus on why that's been a problem before we make more demands about what this team needs.
 

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That's all well and understandable but how does it look when Inzaghi and Gasperini are doing just as well - or better - with less at their disposal to work with? And I understand expectations are different as far as Scudetti are concerned, but that's also not really my point. Simply in the context of this season, both those teams are out-performing us and those managers are doing fantastic jobs with the squads they have to work with in contrast to what Conte's gotten and what he has to work with.

It's just reflects poorly on him. 18 points dropped from winning positions reflects terribly on this team. If we had only dropped half that total (or the same amount that Juve has dropped, and three more than Lazio has dropped), we'd be in a Scudetto chase. If we hadn't dropped six points from winning positions in the CL and, instead, even dropped five points instead, we'd have made the knockout stages. Losing points from being ahead has killed our chances of winning anything this season other than maybe the Arsenal trophy.

Focus on why that's been a problem before we make more demands about what this team needs.

Compare their first seasons in Lazio and Atalanta to first one of Conte here.
 

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Compare their first seasons in Lazio and Atalanta to first one of Conte here.

Lazio lost 10 points from winning positions in 2016-'17, and had only lost four points after 30 match days.

Atalanta lost 14 points in 2016-'17, and had only lost six points after 30 match days.

I didn't know what to expect, but those are the numbers as I see them. And, frankly, we don't compare and not in a good way.
 

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I can understand why expectation so high. Maybe because Conte win PL in his first year or build Rubentus dinasty.

What happen at Inter is different case. It's just like Liverpool rebuilding or City after Sheikh come.
We need all element, from player, management, manager, even physio is very important.
I remember when Liverpool buy Salah and Mane... that's their turnaround. After so many years, then win CL and PL.
Conte already get 2/3 his squad. The problem are the bench players. Almost all bench players are not Conte player.

In this 2 years, I see almost same level with Napoli . We need extraordinary player if want get Scudetto. Rube have Dybala and Ronaldo.
I feel we need four good wingbacks and we set Scudetto next year. Remember Conte buy Marcos Alonso then he win PL.
He can't repeat it with Biraghi of course. But he can do it with Hakimi..

People there can't forget what mess Inter had, from Icardi drama to wasteful Gagliardini. This team rebuilding are not complete. So be patience.
 

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I can understand why expectation so high. Maybe because Conte win PL in his first year or build Rubentus dinasty.

What happen at Inter is different case. It's just like Liverpool rebuilding or City after Sheikh come.
We need all element, from player, management, manager, even physio is very important.
I remember when Liverpool buy Salah and Mane... that's their turnaround. After so many years, then win CL and PL.
Conte already get 2/3 his squad. The problem are the bench players. Almost all bench players are not Conte player.

In this 2 years, I see almost same level with Napoli . We need extraordinary player if want get Scudetto. Rube have Dybala and Ronaldo.
I feel we need four good wingbacks and we set Scudetto next year. Remember Conte buy Marcos Alonso then he win PL.
He can't repeat it with Biraghi of course. But he can do it with Hakimi..

People there can't forget what mess Inter had, from Icardi drama to wasteful Gagliardini. This team rebuilding are not complete. So be patience.

Yes, everyone is talking about our spend what is our net spend last season? Because we got rid of icardi, perisic and nianggolan (loan only which isn't Contes fault), but we sold out most important players and conte has created a better team so far.
Losing points is annoying, especially from winning positions, but the way I would look at that is his tactics ARE working. We are winning these games and running out of legs. We know our bench is shit. Even in Sunday, who is going to come off thag bench and make that game more secure for us?
Get stronger bench, conte does need to improve his in game management but the last thing we want is to start questioning conte. We are building a team, we have to give it time. We know conte is a good manager, that isn't in doubt.
 

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Well, we've spent over 200m in transfers, excluding signing fees, bonuses and agent fees.

We've received something like 40m and that's because of Gabriel Barbosa's 18m transfer in January, which for some reason we delayed so much that we ended up paying him January's salary on top :D

Icardi's sale is not recorded until next season, just like no one is counting the remaining sum for Barella's deal or Sensi's expected option triggered.

That essentially puts our net spending for 2019-20 at something like 160-170m.
 

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Expectations and season targets are obviously high when you hire 11m€ net salary coach and massive transfer mercato. Next season won't be easier for Conte as the expectations and targets are going even higher from this season (yet another massive mercato). This season where we probably fail to reach the targets (trophy and knockout stage of CL). I expect next season's targets be the same + title race till the end. And if there's no trophy at all, Conte might get sack.
 

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Well, we've spent over 200m in transfers, excluding signing fees, bonuses and agent fees.

We've received something like 40m and that's because of Gabriel Barbosa's 18m transfer in January, which for some reason we delayed so much that we ended up paying him January's salary on top :D

Icardi's sale is not recorded until next season, just like no one is counting the remaining sum for Barella's deal or Sensi's expected option triggered.

That essentially puts our net spending for 2019-20 at something like 160-170m.

Yeah but the sale of icardi now is to cover lukaku costs apparently. But the point remains, we "lost" 3 key players and had to replace them.

CC, I'd be surprised if he doesn't see out his contract unless things really go to shit next season and he falls out with key players
 

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Yeah but the sale of icardi now is to cover lukaku costs apparently. But the point remains, we "lost" 3 key players and had to replace them.

CC, I'd be surprised if he doesn't see out his contract unless things really go to shit next season and he falls out with key players

I have a bad feeling Conte won't take it lightly if he can't reach the targets next season. I wouldn't sack him unless there's indeed a fallout with the players a la Spalletti, but I feel sack/resigning might happen if we fail again.
 

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I know people hate Conte cause his Juve past and high salary, but I try to focus on positives. Like first time in decade our managment are backing our coach and after Benitez, Leonardo, Gasperini, Ranieri, Stramala, Mazzarri, Mancini, De Boer, Vecchi, Pioli and Spallo I have lost my energy to demand a new coach :)

I see our attackin play have improved a lot and we have good opportunies to score in every game. Balance is still not there but I hope Conte will find a balance. I think some times we have too many players up front and dont get high press right and opposition can cause us problems! We also still have some weak links like Gags... and its okey. Im glad that we are pushing for better players and try to build a solid team!

I was personally sold when Marotta cleared Inter from Icardis and Perishits and took control back from players! Now its easier to players to focus in our project and I hope this project continue and we dont change coach too hasty!

I dont know do people here watch or follow other teams but I fear eaven if we would have Klopp or Guardiola they would trow them under the bus after few bad games in their first year?

Kloppos first full year at Pool they lost Burnley, Bournemouth, Swansea, Hull, Leicester, Crystal Palace and got 10 draws and finnish 4th. They also lost Wolves at FA Cup and lost both games to Southampton at EFL Cup! Leaked goals like grazy!

After few years they now have solid team with right fitting and guality players and right MENTALITY, witch was also worket by the years! With Klopp good players now want to come/stay at Liverpool like Van Dijk. That is now also at Inter with Conte! Players like Eriksen, Barella, Hakimi want to come here and that is huge thing!

But its good to see active forum full of fellow Interisti and I think we all are ready some trophys and I hope It wont take too long :)
 

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I know people hate Conte cause his Juve past and high salary, but I try to focus on positives. Like first time in decade our managment are backing our coach and after Benitez, Leonardo, Gasperini, Ranieri, Stramala, Mazzarri, Mancini, De Boer, Vecchi, Pioli and Spallo I have lost my energy to demand a new coach :)

I see our attackin play have improved a lot and we have good opportunies to score in every game. Balance is still not there but I hope Conte will find a balance. I think some times we have too many players up front and dont get high press right and opposition can cause us problems! We also still have some weak links like Gags... and its okey. Im glad that we are pushing for better players and try to build a solid team!

I was personally sold when Marotta cleared Inter from Icardis and Perishits and took control back from players! Now its easier to players to focus in our project and I hope this project continue and we dont change coach too hasty!

I dont know do people here watch or follow other teams but I fear eaven if we would have Klopp or Guardiola they would trow them under the bus after few bad games in their first year?

Kloppos first full year at Pool they lost Burnley, Bournemouth, Swansea, Hull, Leicester, Crystal Palace and got 10 draws and finnish 4th. They also lost Wolves at FA Cup and lost both games to Southampton at EFL Cup! Leaked goals like grazy!

After few years they now have solid team with right fitting and guality players and right MENTALITY, witch was also worket by the years! With Klopp good players now want to come/stay at Liverpool like Van Dijk. That is now also at Inter with Conte! Players like Eriksen, Barella, Hakimi want to come here and that is huge thing!

But its good to see active forum full of fellow Interisti and I think we all are ready some trophys and I hope It wont take too long :)

Very good post, same with pep at City.
 

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Compare their first seasons in Lazio and Atalanta to first one of Conte here.

Why? Inzaghi earned like, literally, 10x LESS than conte. Do you really compare players at different levels using the exact same output? Do you expect the same performance level from bastoni as you would deV or Godin?

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And please stop with the Pep and Klopp comparisons. Forgetting trophies won etc, Conte is not in the same league as them with respect to tactical acumen. He's just not.
 

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Vidal type of player is crucial for his tactics, every time Barella isn’t on the pitch with his energy we are totally different team.

I’m pretty sure if we had good replacement for Barella this season that we would be really close to Juve but Vecino, Gagliardini and Borja are simply not good enough.
 

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Can someone get me Allegri? He'd win scudetti with this team.
 

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I can't believe posters are already talking about a new coach. Sometimes, I feel we undoubtedly deserve all the shit we get for being the most fickle supporters in Serie A.
 
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