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Are you serious? There will be plenty of teams with a proper coach interested if we are to place him in the transfer market.Why strengthen our rivals? especially GOBBI

They've had the best defensive record in the league for two seasons in a row now. How exactly would Ranocchia strengthen them?
 

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They've had the best defensive record in the league for two seasons in a row now. How exactly would Ranocchia strengthen them?

Its really quite simple, they would have another Italian international.
 

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Their defensive record is not because individual players, but because of the tactics. Their 3-5-2 works perfectly well, unlike ours. Their players guard eacother, the wings backs never stop running and are both great in defense, not to mention Marchisio and ESPECIALLY Vidal who's beast in defense.

It's easy to talk now, but put Rano in that team, you will see the best he is. Barzagli is not getting younger, and Rano is easily more talented than Bonucci.
 

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Exactly, its all tactics, Samuel with Real was a disaster, and its not a players fault, there has to be a good system in place BUT Ranochia commits alot of unforced mistakes, and thats not something you see in top defenders even if they play in a bad defensive team. I am either way on him staying or leaving.
 

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Their defensive record is not because individual players, but because of the tactics. Their 3-5-2 works perfectly well, unlike ours. Their players guard eacother, the wings backs never stop running and are both great in defense, not to mention Marchisio and ESPECIALLY Vidal who's beast in defense.

It's easy to talk now, but put Rano in that team, you will see the best he is. Barzagli is not getting younger, and Rano is easily more talented than Bonucci.


My thoughts excatly if you can make Bonucci look good you have one hell of a compact team.
 

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It's easy to talk now, but put Rano in that team, you will see the best he is. Barzagli is not getting younger, and Rano is easily more talented than Bonucci.

Based on what exactly? What is it Ranocchia has done in his career to label him such an amazing defender, despite not showing it at all apart from showing SIGNS of talent at Bari? It makes no sense, i wonder if the Ranocchia supporters would still think he was great if he played for another team, i somehow doubt it.

Ranocchia has done nothing in his career to justify this "indispensable star defender" tag, some Inter fans have put on him. Just because he showed potential at Bari doesnt mean he will become the next nesta, the sooner people accept this, the better.

In any case, regardless of the tactic, the coach and the rest of the players around him. Ranocchia will keep being prone to making silly mistakes at times. He has done that pretty consistently throughout his career.

He is pretty similar to Burdisso tbh, although i would rate Burdisso at 25 as being a better player than Ranocchia is now. The problem with Burdisso was not his defensive capabilities, but the fact that he made some hilarious bad judgements/mistakes/brainfarts fairly frequently. Although Ranocchia has less talent than Burdisso had, the similarities with the brainfarts are there as well.

Also, its silly to not wanting to sell a player because he might perform good for someone else. Its completely irrelevant, what is relevant is how the player performs at inter and what kinda progress he shows, if this not at a satisfactory level then the player should be sold and we can try something else. Keeping a player who doesnt perform because of the fear that he will perform for someone else and basicly hampering your own progress, is just dumb beyond belief.
 

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Have you seen how many silly mistakes have Bonucci done? In FAR better team with better coverage and tactics?

Rano may never beome Nesta. But he has the talent to be one. It's not bari only, he has shown that at Inter too, unless you've missed the first half of this season. Or some flashes of brilliance his first half season at Inter.

Mentioning Burdisso, imo he was way better than most fans make him to be. But that's my opinion only. I was one of the rare that i didnt want him to go.

Silly mistakes, every defender make ones. Depends how often. I agree that rano makes them way too often still. Also, bare in mind that the PRESSURE of making mistake is HUGE in this inter. Rano knows that if he makes a mistake is 90% goal since there's no one to cover for his mistake, while Bonucci for instance, has way less pressure since he knows, even if he makes mistake, there's someone to cover for him, most of the times.
 

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Fortunately prandelli has decided that ranocchia won't play for italy in confederations cup
 

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I feel sorry for him. I'm sure he really wanted to go and it could have been great for his confidence. He was looking like being a starter before the Euro's, now he's not even making squads. To bad.
 

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and he might get a 6month ban (concearning the bet scandal) according to Sky :yao:
 

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Have you seen how many silly mistakes have Bonucci done? In FAR better team with better coverage and tactics?
Bonucci was one of their best defenders this season. Easily better than Barzagli during the first 2-3 months. He was disastrous when they had Del Neri and were terrible and plagued by injuries. You know, the excuses that people use to justify so many of Rano's errors and mistakes.

Enter Conte and suddenly Bonucci is able to play as a sweeper behind an immobile Andrea Pirlo. That doesn't magically occur because of compactness or a change in system, however significant it may be. There has to be something there to work with; the talent has to be there from the start. Bonucci may not be Nesta, but neither is he mediocre like some people here like to pretend. He's quicker than Rano and has comparable, if not superior technique on the ball. One of the main reasons Strama was able to end their winning streak was because, tactically, he not only took Pirlo out of the game but suffocated Bonucci's time on the ball as well. No team was worried about Rano picking out pass last season, that's for sure.

Maybe Inter will experience the same kind of dramatic improvement from Ranocchia once Mazzarri implements his system. But right now, at this moment, Bonucci is superior to Rano. Will it stay that way? Perhaps not. But to say otherwise atm because of one season at Bari is to be willfully blind.

Rano may never beome Nesta. But he has the talent to be one. It's not bari only, he has shown that at Inter too, unless you've missed the first half of this season. Or some flashes of brilliance his first half season at Inter.

No, he doesn't. Nesta was a once-in-a-generation talent. By 19 he was starting for Lazio in a Serie A that was much stronger than it is today. By his early 20s he was captain. Ranocchia is already 25 and making glaring errors that a talent like Nesta would not have committed, despite the mediocre midfield in front of him.

Could he become a good defender? Certainly. But he'll never be world class. The same is true of Bonucci.
 
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whoever wants rano wants to go must be retarded people on this forum have amnesia he was incredible the first half of the season with no help by a DM when our team began to shit themselves he obviously took a dip in form but thiago silva next to ramos or varane and youll see them suck with an inter with no attack.
 

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No, he doesn't. Nesta was a once-in-a-generation talent. By 19 he was starting for Lazio in a Serie A that was much stronger than it is today. By his early 20s he was captain. Ranocchia is already 25 and making glaring errors that a talent like Nesta would not have committed, despite the mediocre midfield in front of him.

This.

The best of tactics and players around will still not mask Rano's individual errors. I hope we can squeeze 20m out of Juve for him (or Isla + 10m). We can easily sign a better defender than Rano with that money, and in the process deal a big blow to Juve's transfer budget.

But knowing Inter, we will give them Rano + 6m for Padoin.
 

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whoever wants rano wants to go must be retarded people on this forum have amnesia he was incredible the first half of the season with no help by a DM when our team began to shit themselves he obviously took a dip in form but thiago silva next to ramos or varane and youll see them suck with an inter with no attack.

LOL the time period you are mentioning is about 2-3 months of his entire career at Inter. Thats 2-3 months in 2½ years where he has played conistently good. The rest of the time he has been rather poor and most importantly showed no sign of progress whatsoever. He hasnt developed at all. Tell me who the retard is again?

I guess i shouldnt expect too much from someone "fav. player Fuck paulinho", what are you? 12 years old?
 

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LOL the time period you are mentioning is about 2-3 months of his entire career at Inter. Thats 2-3 months in 2½ years where he has played conistently good. The rest of the time he has been rather poor and most importantly showed no sign of progress whatsoever. He hasnt developed at all. Tell me who the retard is again?

I guess i shouldnt expect too much from someone "fav. player Fuck paulinho", what are you? 12 years old?
Del neri defense was catastrophic and was the same of this year bonucci barzagli chiellini, that now is the best, cause they got a serious coach with defensive organisation, and midfielders that run and play good defense
So let's see how ranocchia is with mazzarri defensive organisation, with midfielders that make defense (no statues #4 #19)
 

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whoever wants rano wants to go must be retarded people on this forum have amnesia he was incredible the first half of the season with no help by a DM when our team began to shit themselves he obviously took a dip in form but thiago silva next to ramos or varane and youll see them suck with an inter with no attack.

Sure, there is a chance Rano will blossom with proper defensive organisation and defensive cover from the midfield. But IMO he will at best be a Materazzi. Definitely not worth the money we paid for him, and never achieved the potential he showed at Bari. And please, lets not compare him with with Thiago Silva.

If an offer exceeding 15m comes in, I see no reason not to sell Ranocchia. We can get better quality with that money.
 

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Sure we can get better quality than Rano for 15 mils. But problem is we wont spend 15 mils to get better talents with those management.
 
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