2023/2024 Forwards Rumours Thread

[Choppin Onions]

Offloading Correa will be a monumental task tbh. And the player himself doesn’t seem to want to leave. It’s not gonna be easy.

 

[NimAraya]

I can already imagine the narrative. We will sign Gnonto IF Correa leaves which will never happen.

Correa is one of those players who need to be truly 'pushed out'.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

If we don't use our money on Lukaku, and spend it on a young striker with potential (Like Balogun) I'm going to consider this mercato a success.

You'd need to suggest better names tbh. Balogun is interesting, but at his age and his price and for the performance he has shown is really not convincing.

At Balogun's age, Icardi and Lukaku were already among the brightest striker prospects out there. Lautaro and Julian Alvarez were the best player and a leader in Argentina. All of them cost half or less of the price Arsenal are asking to Balogun, who is, at the moment, just nothing more than one of those young strikers in Ligue 1.

 

[NimAraya]

You'd need to suggest better names tbh. Balogun is interesting, but at his age and his price and for the performance he has shown is really not convincing.

At Balogun's age, Icardi and Lukaku were already among the brightest striker prospects out there. Lautaro and Julian Alvarez were the best player and a leader in Argentina. All of them cost half or less of the price Arsenal are asking to Balogun, who is, at the moment, just nothing more than one of those young strikers in Ligue 1.

I like Julian Alvarez here instead of Lukaku but I doubt City sells him outright. Maybe we can loan him as he likes to get more playing time. He's an all around forward and a hard worker. LM-JA would flourish together IMO.

 

[El Matador]

You'd need to suggest better names tbh. Balogun is interesting, but at his age and his price and for the performance he has shown is really not convincing.

At Balogun's age, Icardi and Lukaku were already among the brightest striker prospects out there. Lautaro and Julian Alvarez were the best player and a leader in Argentina. All of them cost half or less of the price Arsenal are asking to Balogun, who is, at the moment, just nothing more than one of those young strikers in Ligue 1.

Bro, I’m not the clubs sporting director its irrelevant who i suggest. Im just naming a player we’re linked to. What im saying is that any of the names we’re linked to 25yo and below and has a potential future upside is money well spent instead of Lukaku.

Another name we’re linked to is Gnonto who I don’t mind either. Just not Lukaku. weve done a great job at lowering the age of the squad lets continue this

 

[El Matador]

Just to “suggest” a name. A striker I really like is Ndiaye from Sheffield. The guy is a monster in the making but unfortunately its hard to convince anyone since he comes from the championship

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Bro, I’m not the clubs sporting director its irrelevant who i suggest. Im just naming a player we’re linked to. What im saying is that any of the names we’re linked to 25yo and below and has a potential future upside is money well spent instead of Lukaku.

Another name we’re linked to is Gnonto who I don’t mind either. Just not Lukaku. weve done a great job at lowering the age of the squad lets continue this

It's rhetorical, just to say that the young player that you want may not exist at the moment all things considered.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I can already imagine the narrative. We will sign Gnonto IF Correa leaves which will never happen.

What narrative? That's an obvious requirement.

 

[PHM1605]

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The latter option sounds sweet but when I read it again...the "in the case" is of equivalent probability of "in the case of Zhang's ok". As no one is buying that Correa crap

 

[CafeCordoba]

I calculated that we can build 23 man roster for the CL with 2 club trained players which would be Dimarco and 3rd GK whoever that is (yesterday linked to Serie C GK Di Gennaro).

So in that regard we shouldn't necessarily need Bonazzoli to the squad. If we want to expand the squad to 24-25 players, then we need club trained players.

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

Gnonto? woof

 

[brehme1989]

Regarding Lukaku or Morata dilemmas, if there is such a thing, both rely a lot on explosiveness. Not sure who is going to diminish his first, but the difference is that Lukaku is a better finisher (with his foot) and takes up more space to play with his back to goal, even if he's not very capable of doing much but Morata is far more useful without the ball and can do more with it.

Cost wise it seems to be a significant difference.
I think the difference is how the team responds to each player. Lukaku is more egotistical but will score more. And he guarantees PK conversions. Morata on the other hand will have the same bad misses as Lukaku, less goals, but he will probably allow the team to create more chances and give his teammates more room for goals.

And at least Morata scores in big games.

If we're between the two, I'm leaning Morata only because we have Frattesi, Barella and two wing backs who can score, but both options are subpar given the cost.

 

[Meysam]

Not even close to the same. Even with all his injuries last season rom scored 14 goals overall , Morata hardly missed a game but only managed 15.
If it's between Morata and rom I am picking Rom.
If we can I would go for a younger profile but I don't believe we have the finances for that.

Morata=>Staying Onana or Lukaku=>selling Onana, that's the question?
If getting Morata means staying Onana, I'll go with that.
Beside, Lukakau salary is too much, it should be around 6-6.5m at most.

 

[Meysam]

Regarding Lukaku or Morata dilemmas, if there is such a thing, both rely a lot on explosiveness. Not sure who is going to diminish his first, but the difference is that Lukaku is a better finisher (with his foot) and takes up more space to play with his back to goal, even if he's not very capable of doing much but Morata is far more useful without the ball and can do more with it.

Cost wise it seems to be a significant difference.
I think the difference is how the team responds to each player. Lukaku is more egotistical but will score more. And he guarantees PK conversions. Morata on the other hand will have the same bad misses as Lukaku, less goals, but he will probably allow the team to create more chances and give his teammates more room for goals.

And at least Morata scores in big games.

If we're between the two, I'm leaning Morata only because we have Frattesi, Barella and two wing backs who can score, but both options are subpar given the cost.

Totally agree.
Aside his salary and price which is better, I'm sure, Regarding to our style of playing including many crosses his skill in heading the ball would be highly beneficial.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Morata=>Staying Onana or Lukaku=>selling Onana, that's the question?
If getting Morata means staying Onana, I'll go with that.
Beside, Lukakau salary is too much, it should be around 6-6.5m at most.

Morata is not that much cheaper that would allow you to keep Onana though, so don't worry you don't get to choose.

Anyway, you guys don't want Lukaku, that's ok, just don't bring Morata to this. Lukaku both has significantly more career goals and assists than Morata, he's also a bit younger, they are not the same level. Gnonto v Lukaku may be ok, Morata v Lukaku is not.

 

[Meysam]

Morata is not that much cheaper that would allow you to keep Onana though, so don't worry you don't get to choose.

Anyway, you guys don't want Lukaku, that's ok, just don't bring Morata to this. Lukaku both has significantly more career goals and assists than Morata, he's also a bit younger, they are not the same level. Gnonto v Lukaku may be ok, Morata v Lukaku is not.

I'm not against Lukaka but if our financial situation is fucked up which cases we have to sell our best players, how on earth we are able to give him the highest salary, 8.5m net? and spend 20m overall only for 1 season?
We shouldn't consider cheaper options? As I recall, you were asking about his alternative but now you are against every his possible alternative

 

[qb4ever_2k]

I'm not against Lukaka but if our financial situation is fucked up which cases we have to sell our best players, how on earth we are able to give him the highest salary, 8.5m net? and spend 20m overall only for 1 season?
We shouldn't consider cheaper options? As I recall, you were asking about his alternative but now you are against every his possible alternative

All of your concerns are valid re:Lukaku, just that Morata shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion too, much worse and not that much cheaper.

I'm not against alternative, as long as the alternatives are not something like paying 50m for Balogun or 20m for Morata. If you want to skip Lukaku entirely and count on Thuram, or betting like 15-20m on Gnonto then sure, worth a discussion.

 

[Meysam]

All of your concerns are valid re:Lukaku, just that Morata shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion too, much worse and not that much cheaper.

I'm not against alternative, as long as the alternatives are not something like paying 50m for Balogun or 20m for Morata. If you want to skip Lukaku entirely and count on Thuram, or betting like 15-20m on Gnonto then sure, worth a discussion.

You right, Morata price is 20m. However, I still go with him. Cus regarding of the team's style of play, which involves frequently using crosses, his skill in heading the ball would be extremely helpful.
I know his finishing is not the same as Lukaku but he can play for team providing more space and opportunities.
Rumor has it, Meelan is going to get him. But I think his performance is going to be better when he's playing with another striker.
At the end, If Lukaku cut his salary, I have no problem to have him here as well.

 

[Stefan]

Morata=>Staying Onana or Lukaku=>selling Onana, that's the question?
If getting Morata means staying Onana, I'll go with that.
Beside, Lukakau salary is too much, it should be around 6-6.5m at most.

Onana isn't staying regardless who the new striker will be. The club has sadly decided to cash in.

Also Morata's transfer fee isn't cheaper. Pricing linking him to bbilan has been €32 mil.

 

[Meysam]

Onana isn't staying regardless who the new striker will be. The club has sadly decided to cash in.

Also Morata's transfer fee isn't cheaper. Pricing linking him to bbilan has been €32 mil.

If it's 32m? he is not worth the money for sure