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We are linked with Giuseppe Rossi again. Apparently he want to return to Serie A, and Villareal are willing to sell him for €9m.

If the price was closer to 3m he might be worth the risk. He is out till march with his second ACL tear in less than a year.
 

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Too much money for someone who hasn't played for year and a half...
 

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I think it's worth a risk, assuming that we properly check his knee. If that is alright, then I do believe that he can get back to his pre-injury level. Things like experience, instinct and technique don't go away. What disappear are confidence and physical form, but he can get them back if his knee allows it.

It's a gamble, but while we risk losing 9 mil (well, risk losing less as he probably will retain sale value of at least 5 or so mil if we don't overpay with wages), we could also reap the gains of having a striker worth 30 million euro, which he was pre-injury. And he's 25.

Not sure where else you can get an under 27 year old potentially world class forward for 9 million euro. If we are convinced his knee is fine, then he's much less risk-free than paying same amount for some up and coming South American talent.
 

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A loan with option to buy would be perfect... And if we buy him permanently, we shouldnt give more than 5...
 

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We can offer them around 5millions directly and if the knee is fine and he keeps being fit for the whole second half of the season they can get another 10 million. When this dude stays fit, he will be a beast for us. Before his injuries we was worth around 40 millions, for me definitely worth taking the risk!

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IF he stays fit. TWO major injuries, two years out of the pitch... Too big of a risk, unless it's a loan with option to buy.
 

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Giuseppe Rossi would be very risky deal. Only viable at a bargain fee.
 

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He was never a player who relied on pace, so theres a strong possibility he can return to form. Look at Cassano, no way he'll be in worse shape then him. I agree it's a risk though. 5-7 million is a good price.
 

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We've already made some 'risks'.

So i guess another should't be in our agenda.
 

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thats where I get a problem

the next player we gonna buy has to be fast, quick, decisive, Quaresma, but not flop. no player like that in the market. soooo, we are going to buy something we don't need. like Rossi.

If Rossi regains his stamina, then that's great, but we srsly have to stop buying injury prone players
 

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IF he stays fit. TWO major injuries, two years out of the pitch... Too big of a risk, unless it's a loan with option to buy.
Knee injuries, not muscle injuries.

I'm no doctor, but I'd think it's easier to predict the likelyhood of a knee injury striking again by studying it. Might've simply been a bit of recklessness with his first return, rather than some proneness for an injury.

I don't care much about him being out for 2 years. The only worry would be: whether his knee will handle it or not.

For 9 million we could get:

A) an average Milito sub like Denis
B) a talented striker far from ready for big-time and without a proven record at such level

I'd rather place my bet on Rossi's knee if some top doctors/sports physiologists would provide significiant reason to believe that his problem was temporary.

And I can't insist enough that the decisive factor of my support for going for Rossi is that we will check his knee thoroughly before agreeing to any deal.

Lot of people talk of it being a "risky deal", but can I just ask you: has the past two years shown that we can afford to make a non-risky deal? I don't see even a nearly "risk free" striker in mid or early 20's out there who we could get for 9 million (remember, we're talking of Inter quality). Compared to other guys available at such price, Rossi with reasonable assurance that his knee can hold it, would be a bargain. Moneyball.
 

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well its not like sneijder plays more than rossi tbh..
 

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Buying Rossi would be like buying Ronaldo after his Milan's career. No, Rossi's knee won't be a temporary. He would need to rest about 6 months post surgery.

Even if they give us Rossi+7 millions, I would think 4x before signing the deal.
 

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It's not ordinary knee injury... It's torn ligament. TWO in a row. Not playing for 2 years. It's not question of his previous quality...
 

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If I had a dollar for every time Pajo explained G. Rossi's situation...
 

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Knee injuries, not muscle injuries.

I'm no doctor, but I'd think it's easier to predict the likelyhood of a knee injury striking again by studying it. Might've simply been a bit of recklessness with his first return, rather than some proneness for an injury.

I don't care much about him being out for 2 years. The only worry would be: whether his knee will handle it or not.

For 9 million we could get:

A) an average Milito sub like Denis
B) a talented striker far from ready for big-time and without a proven record at such level

I'd rather place my bet on Rossi's knee if some top doctors/sports physiologists would provide significiant reason to believe that his problem was temporary.

And I can't insist enough that the decisive factor of my support for going for Rossi is that we will check his knee thoroughly before agreeing to any deal.

Lot of people talk of it being a "risky deal", but can I just ask you: has the past two years shown that we can afford to make a non-risky deal? I don't see even a nearly "risk free" striker in mid or early 20's out there who we could get for 9 million (remember, we're talking of Inter quality). Compared to other guys available at such price, Rossi with reasonable assurance that his knee can hold it, would be a bargain. Moneyball.


Its a more severe version of the injury Samuel has suffered twice at Inter (cruciate ligament ones), or sort of the same as Ronaldo's big injuries....

With two in a row like that, players rarely recover. People have been known to quit football for less.

Its also the same injury Kerlon has now suffered 3? 4? of?

The fact that its happened twice in the same knee concurrently worries me the most. What also worries me is the fact that he had another surgery a few weeks ago, so obviously its more complicated than first expected.


Anyone who calls Rossi 'risk free' is, tbh, an idiot. 9mil + what, 3m a season salary? 4 year contract means we're paying 9/4 = 2.25m + 6m year salary = near enough 8.5million a season for 4 years for Rossi? Risk free my ass. The only players at Inter who we pay more than that for right now are, off the top of my head, Milito, Sneijder, Zanetti, possibly Cambiasso. Guarin is close but not quite there, Handanovic is close too but not quite there.


No, pass. There's a fucking REASON why his valuation has fallen from 40 million to 9 million in 12 months. Its because he'll possibly never be able to fucking run again.



Also, the problem here, even if he does completely recover, its not obvious whether it will happen again or not. The doctors cant predict it (they've declared Michael Owen free of injury prone problems thousands of times, for example) - its not like you just look at the cruciate ligaments under a microscope to see if they are healthy or not.

This injury COULD retire him...

---------- Post added at 03:55 ---------- Previous post was at 03:47 ----------

see:

http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/39/3/127.full
 

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It's not ordinary knee injury... It's torn ligament. TWO in a row. Not playing for 2 years. It's not question of his previous quality...

are you drunk? I tend to be extra careful when typing when Im drunk, you know punctuation and shit
 

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Who has called Rossi risk free?
Who has insisted that we should sign him even if we find slightest of evidence that his knee is completely fucked?

Oh, jesus christ.

If you don't read properly, don't answer.

+ Don't go over the top with Rossi's wage valuation. No-one is going to agree to pay him 3 million euro a year post-tax, not before he has played for a decent amount of time. Tho even if we might, I'm sure we'll put in something to save us in case of another long term injury.

My whole defence on signing Rossi is based on the situation where we have reason to believe that he can continue without having the same problem again. And if that is the case, I'd prefer taking my chances with him than some random Brazilian or Argentine or an overrated German Denis.
 

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Tanel said:
Lot of people talk of it being a "risky deal", but can I just ask you: has the past two years shown that we can afford to make a non-risky deal?

Depends on the type of risk my friend.

You try to rationalize a dangerous one and surely there are way more obvious options less doomed to failure.

Why should we input ourselves in a story of havin a plus factor to headache us a player's injury additional to the usual player risk all transfers have.
 

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Yes, there are players out there for 9 mil who can probably be world class instantly.

But I don't trust our managements ability to find them.

For that money, we would buy some overrated Serie A 10 goal striker or a 30 year old or some kid who we are afraid to start.
 
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