The Jose Experience
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10 years of FIFI guess, that's the time for: "The Jose Experience ver.3" by Puma 
Who knows. Maybe we have to do it again next year as well. Maybe it brings us a good charm.
In that case, thanks Puma
Who knows. Maybe we have to do it again next year as well. Maybe it brings us a good charm.
In that case, thanks Puma
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I still remember that day, when we struggle to be offensive...
Zac is the transition to that....
For transition coach, he's alright....
I see inter is going up after that... we never goes down....
So, yeah.. despite certain bad results.. He was alright...
SO THANK YOU ZAC
Luka, I am probably silly but I am happy
Zac is the transition to that....
For transition coach, he's alright....
I see inter is going up after that... we never goes down....
So, yeah.. despite certain bad results.. He was alright...
SO THANK YOU ZAC
Luka, I am probably silly
but I am happy
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10 years of FIFSo even Puma is now wearing a Jose avatar.
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10 years of FIFI would just like to respond to the posters on here who have commented on my supposed dislike or hate of Mourinho or the fact that I never have anything positive to say about him. I believe the contents of this article has been misinterpreted and taken out of context. Despite the perception of many posters on here as to my apparent dislike of Mourinho, I would like to clarify and state for the record that I do not dislike nor do I hate our coach. Many of you may find that hard to believe but I will endeavour to make my position clear in this post.
First and foremost, I would like to use an analogy that may help you understand my point of view. In my profession, I have a Duty to the Court, to my clients, and to my fellow legal practitioners. I will not discuss the first two duties but I believe the third duty is relevant and can be transferred to football.
Just as I have a duty to my fellow legal practitioners in terms of being courteous, not being disrespectful or speaking ill of them, I believe the same principle applies to football coaches. The tactics employed by a tactician, the way a coach prepares his players or the amount of silverware won by one coach in comparison to another makes little to no difference when it comes to courtesy and respect for a fellow professional. In particular, I will refer to both Ranieri and Mourinho. Given the current climate in Calcio (which is why I posted Susy’s recent article), and our midweek Coppa Italia victory against Roma, I believe it was unwise for Ranieri to comment about Mourinho and the way he creates a siege mentality to help Inter win.
As we beat Roma on their home ground, I would have let Ranieiri’s comment go through to the keeper but Mourinho replied by labelling Ranieri a loser and belittling the way he prepared his players for the Coppa Italia final. Some will argue that as Ranieri was the first to comment then Mourinho was entitled to respond. Others will say that Mourinho has always spoken his mind and he will not change his ways but his most recent comments and the way he belittled Ranieri, a fellow professional, were distasteful and unwarranted. It does not matter how Ranieri prepares his team and it is not for Mourinho to comment or pass judgment. If Mourinho wants to do this, he should allow himself a quiet smile behind closed doors with a nice glass of red and some fine Italian cheese and silently toast Ranieri as opposed to belittling a fellow professional in the media. The only other comment I would like to add about the recent war of words between Ranieri and Mourinho is that I think it is admirable that after Mourinho’s comments, Ranieri still had the class to say that Mourinho is a good coach but would not be drawn into making further comments. I think it takes a lot to be gracious when you have been trampled upon as opposed to being as ruthless and bloody minded as Mourinho.
Like the Italian media, many posters on here find Mourinho’s comments funny and entertaining. Every person is entitled to their own opinion but I take the view that as the defending Italian Champions, Coppa Italia winners and Italy’s only remaining representative in Europe, Inter are the standard bearer. As a result, I feel Inter as a club, the management, our coach and players are obliged to act respectfully and graciously. Mourinho may be a special and an astute tactician but the contempt he has for his fellow professionals and the environment in which he is employed leaves a great deal to be desired. And perhaps the greatest irony is that he claims that he is not much liked in Italy or he is not respected but yet he does absolutely nothing to improve the environment in which he works. If anything, by way of his actions and comments, he is just adding to the confrontational and tense environment that presently prevails in Serie A.
I do not dislike or hate Mourinho. I like the way he has changed Inter for the better and I enjoy the way our team plays football but I question some of his methods. It is my view, that Mourinho can achieve the same results with far less agitation and what bothers me most is that his actions and comments border on the reckless. It is all well and good to say that Mourinho is a special coach so he can say whatever he likes or he has always spoken his mind but there has to be a limit.
Many posters on here have said that no player or man is bigger than the club. What worries me is that Mourinho puts himself before the club. The handcuff gesture and the subsequent suspension led to us dropping points. At a time when things are very delicate between clubs (Roma v Inter Roma v Lazio) as well as the situation in the championship, Mourinho comes up with joke about Roma paying Siena on the last day of the season so that the Tuscans will put up a fight. Given the FIGC’s response to Mourinho after the handcuff gesture, do you think such a comment was wise and worth making? Is it possible that he might be suspended for the final day of the season when his players will most need him? It is all well and good to a laugh at all of the “wonderful” quotes he makes to the media but he is not bigger than the club and giving up an 11 point lead and possibly losing silverware as a result of reckless gestures or comments is simply unforgivable.
First and foremost, I would like to use an analogy that may help you understand my point of view. In my profession, I have a Duty to the Court, to my clients, and to my fellow legal practitioners. I will not discuss the first two duties but I believe the third duty is relevant and can be transferred to football.
Just as I have a duty to my fellow legal practitioners in terms of being courteous, not being disrespectful or speaking ill of them, I believe the same principle applies to football coaches. The tactics employed by a tactician, the way a coach prepares his players or the amount of silverware won by one coach in comparison to another makes little to no difference when it comes to courtesy and respect for a fellow professional. In particular, I will refer to both Ranieri and Mourinho. Given the current climate in Calcio (which is why I posted Susy’s recent article), and our midweek Coppa Italia victory against Roma, I believe it was unwise for Ranieri to comment about Mourinho and the way he creates a siege mentality to help Inter win.
As we beat Roma on their home ground, I would have let Ranieiri’s comment go through to the keeper but Mourinho replied by labelling Ranieri a loser and belittling the way he prepared his players for the Coppa Italia final. Some will argue that as Ranieri was the first to comment then Mourinho was entitled to respond. Others will say that Mourinho has always spoken his mind and he will not change his ways but his most recent comments and the way he belittled Ranieri, a fellow professional, were distasteful and unwarranted. It does not matter how Ranieri prepares his team and it is not for Mourinho to comment or pass judgment. If Mourinho wants to do this, he should allow himself a quiet smile behind closed doors with a nice glass of red and some fine Italian cheese and silently toast Ranieri as opposed to belittling a fellow professional in the media. The only other comment I would like to add about the recent war of words between Ranieri and Mourinho is that I think it is admirable that after Mourinho’s comments, Ranieri still had the class to say that Mourinho is a good coach but would not be drawn into making further comments. I think it takes a lot to be gracious when you have been trampled upon as opposed to being as ruthless and bloody minded as Mourinho.
Like the Italian media, many posters on here find Mourinho’s comments funny and entertaining. Every person is entitled to their own opinion but I take the view that as the defending Italian Champions, Coppa Italia winners and Italy’s only remaining representative in Europe, Inter are the standard bearer. As a result, I feel Inter as a club, the management, our coach and players are obliged to act respectfully and graciously. Mourinho may be a special and an astute tactician but the contempt he has for his fellow professionals and the environment in which he is employed leaves a great deal to be desired. And perhaps the greatest irony is that he claims that he is not much liked in Italy or he is not respected but yet he does absolutely nothing to improve the environment in which he works. If anything, by way of his actions and comments, he is just adding to the confrontational and tense environment that presently prevails in Serie A.
I do not dislike or hate Mourinho. I like the way he has changed Inter for the better and I enjoy the way our team plays football but I question some of his methods. It is my view, that Mourinho can achieve the same results with far less agitation and what bothers me most is that his actions and comments border on the reckless. It is all well and good to say that Mourinho is a special coach so he can say whatever he likes or he has always spoken his mind but there has to be a limit.
Many posters on here have said that no player or man is bigger than the club. What worries me is that Mourinho puts himself before the club. The handcuff gesture and the subsequent suspension led to us dropping points. At a time when things are very delicate between clubs (Roma v Inter Roma v Lazio) as well as the situation in the championship, Mourinho comes up with joke about Roma paying Siena on the last day of the season so that the Tuscans will put up a fight. Given the FIGC’s response to Mourinho after the handcuff gesture, do you think such a comment was wise and worth making? Is it possible that he might be suspended for the final day of the season when his players will most need him? It is all well and good to a laugh at all of the “wonderful” quotes he makes to the media but he is not bigger than the club and giving up an 11 point lead and possibly losing silverware as a result of reckless gestures or comments is simply unforgivable.
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I have to say, the way you present your opinion is really clear.
I idolize Jose, and most of the times I fall under the category of those who's loving his smart responses & quotes.
However, I completely resonate with you in his last respond about belittling Ranieri's approach. It's arrogant, unnecessary & in total opposite to what we call "class".
It would not, however, make me like & thank Jose any less. If I may wish, he'd stay with us for a long time.
He's imperfect in many ways. But he's perfect for Inter. Does that make sense?
I idolize Jose, and most of the times I fall under the category of those who's loving his smart responses & quotes.
However, I completely resonate with you in his last respond about belittling Ranieri's approach. It's arrogant, unnecessary & in total opposite to what we call "class".
It would not, however, make me like & thank Jose any less. If I may wish, he'd stay with us for a long time.
He's imperfect in many ways. But he's perfect for Inter. Does that make sense?
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Forum SupporterThe difference between Ranieri and Jose is Ranieri wraps his comments in cotton but still gives backhanded meanings to what he says. Mou says it directly.
I understand your point Puma, no disrespect, but we wont agree.
I understand your point Puma, no disrespect, but we wont agree.
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Same as Suneet, i respect and understand those views, but i will never agree.
Maybe because i kind of find myself in Mourinho, i am always very direct, cold blooded and maybe arrogant, but i feel i am always fair and direct, so needless to say, i really enjoy his comments!
Still though, sometimes he may need to shut it for a bit, and he did that for the past few weeks very well, but Ranieri provoked him, and he got burned, so i still suppose Jose in those comments, Ranier put fuel to fire.
And it's not fair to put all blame on Jose for the gap reduction, as there were several other factors, such as the refereeing, the players having focus on CL as well as being tired from CL matches, and also underestimating the threat of Roma while Juve and Milan were failing.
And lastly, i totally believe that his "war" around Italy has helped the team a real lot in the transformation...most recently, we would have capitulated in Nou Camp had we not have that "team feeling and sacrifice" that Jose put into the players by his "siege mentality", all thanks to the war and the feeling of injustice he set into the players minds, not to mention the matches such as against Sampdoria, Milan etc.
Maybe because i kind of find myself in Mourinho, i am always very direct, cold blooded and maybe arrogant, but i feel i am always fair and direct, so needless to say, i really enjoy his comments!
Still though, sometimes he may need to shut it for a bit, and he did that for the past few weeks very well, but Ranieri provoked him, and he got burned, so i still suppose Jose in those comments, Ranier put fuel to fire.
And it's not fair to put all blame on Jose for the gap reduction, as there were several other factors, such as the refereeing, the players having focus on CL as well as being tired from CL matches, and also underestimating the threat of Roma while Juve and Milan were failing.
And lastly, i totally believe that his "war" around Italy has helped the team a real lot in the transformation...most recently, we would have capitulated in Nou Camp had we not have that "team feeling and sacrifice" that Jose put into the players by his "siege mentality", all thanks to the war and the feeling of injustice he set into the players minds, not to mention the matches such as against Sampdoria, Milan etc.
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FIF Special OnesForum Supporter10 years of FIFPuma, I disagree with you completely. Jose was brought here to make Inter win not to make Inter the most loved club in Italy. If we wanted that we would have gotten a loser like Ranieri. No matter what Jose says it will forever be manipulated to either mean he's leaving, gonna sign Jenas, or insulting someone.
Like you said there was no need for Ranieri to talk about him especially considering the two aren't even friends and Ranieri is an eternal loser. Jose tells it as it is. Why should he lie to make Ranieri feel good? He spoke only the truth. And so what if Ranieri was classy in the end to say Jose is a good coach. Is Jose bad for not wanting to lie and say the same? And wouldn't Jose be even portrayed as a bigger antagonist for saying Ranieri is an average old man who has never won anything of substance?
You applied you being a lawyer to football... Why exactly?! The two are totally and completely different in every sense besides the fact that the two involve winning, losing and sometimes drawing. This is where the similarities end. A coach does NOT have to be respectful to other coaches in fact two coaches don't even have to talk and a match can still go on fully. You want courtesy and respect? How's about Ranieri benchingTotti for his ridiculous actions on Balotteli as a gesture that he doesn't tolerate this crap?! How about him telling his players to calm down after they had already injured one of our players? In fact they started going in harder, kicked our heads, punched, etc. For all the courtesy and respect Ranieri displays off the pitch, this certainly can't be reflected on it as his players played like wild savages whose sole intent was to injure Inter players even if that meant they would not win.
Like you said there was no need for Ranieri to talk about him especially considering the two aren't even friends and Ranieri is an eternal loser. Jose tells it as it is. Why should he lie to make Ranieri feel good? He spoke only the truth. And so what if Ranieri was classy in the end to say Jose is a good coach. Is Jose bad for not wanting to lie and say the same? And wouldn't Jose be even portrayed as a bigger antagonist for saying Ranieri is an average old man who has never won anything of substance?
You applied you being a lawyer to football... Why exactly?! The two are totally and completely different in every sense besides the fact that the two involve winning, losing and sometimes drawing. This is where the similarities end. A coach does NOT have to be respectful to other coaches in fact two coaches don't even have to talk and a match can still go on fully. You want courtesy and respect? How's about Ranieri benchingTotti for his ridiculous actions on Balotteli as a gesture that he doesn't tolerate this crap?! How about him telling his players to calm down after they had already injured one of our players? In fact they started going in harder, kicked our heads, punched, etc. For all the courtesy and respect Ranieri displays off the pitch, this certainly can't be reflected on it as his players played like wild savages whose sole intent was to injure Inter players even if that meant they would not win.
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it's impossible to make inter the most loved team in italy...
No matter what we achieved, we will be hated..
Unless, we become Zebra or BB's bitch
No matter what we achieved, we will be hated..
Unless, we become Zebra or BB's bitch
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I agree with Nyall…It would be great if in addition to his winning record Mourinho occasionally showed some humility but humility/Courtesy is one of the least requirements of a coach if he is winning…
Nobody cares that Michael Jordan as a person is borderline despicable…the man won that’s all that matters ultimately & the same applies to Mourinho…
Nobody cares that Michael Jordan as a person is borderline despicable…the man won that’s all that matters ultimately & the same applies to Mourinho…
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10 years of FIFGreat post by Puma. You articulated very well your opinion. I have a bit same thoughts. Even if Mourinho is such a great motivator of the team and to achieve that he may need to draw attention to himself, I'd still like him to restrain himself at least a bit. He constantly speaks about the bitter environment he's in, but part of the reason for that environment is himself with his comments. That's undeniable.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFThe environment was bitter even before he got in italy. Only difference was other inter managers where prepared to take it and not fight back. It got better with mancio since he was prepared to fightback. Mou just took it to another level.
Maybe some of you don't like our manager fighting fire with fire. Personally I think its the right strategy.
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I don't even want to think about that :crybaby:...there are only two names that would, if anything, ease my disappointed by very little: Fabio Capello and Gus Hiddink.
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10 years of FIFI would be happy with Van Gaal as well.. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think Capello has the best chances to be our manager, Van Gaal will stay in Bayern and Hidding.. Well, he is NT coach...
