The Italian player debate

[il Biscione 84]

We're more like dissociating ourselves of the reason behind the creation of this club.

 

[blackmore]

no thanks....

juve had done it in the past and failed miserably. we are not about italian players, and have done very well with only a handful at the most. lets not change the trend, until we finally get some world-class players back to the azzurri. until then......

 

[cloudq]

lol it wasnt until a few years ago that the shouting about the italian player debate became a crescendo.

before that, inter was the most italian team of the big 6; toldo, fontana, adani, materazzi, cannavaro, coco, pasquale, di biagio, c.zanetti, vieri, ventola (am i missing someone?); unfortunately that also coincided with the team's darkest era: the hector cuper long-ball to vieri era

thank god we said fuck that and just went with the best instead

 

[La Bling]

Quick question to debate:
There are two players, equal in every way possible. One is Italian. One isn't. Who would you rather sign?

 

[Choppin Onions]

Italian.... unless the other is Canadian in which case I pick that one.

 

[Domenico]

no thanks....

juve had done it in the past and failed miserably. we are not about italian players, and have done very well with only a handful at the most. lets not change the trend, until we finally get some world-class players back to the azzurri. until then......

I think Pazzini, Ranocchia (and Motta once he plays for the Azzurri) should be the only ones starting for us right now.

 

[Coasterfreek]

Quick question to debate:
There are two players, equal in every way possible. One is Italian. One isn't. Who would you rather sign?

I'll take the Italian, unless he's American. Call me a "Yank" homer but I do cheer on Americans in some sports.

 

[Stefan]

Quick question to debate:
There are two players, equal in every way possible. One is Italian. One isn't. Who would you rather sign?

The cheaper one.

 

[Alessandro]

Quick question to debate:
There are two players, equal in every way possible. One is Italian. One isn't. Who would you rather sign?

The best looking... More jersey sales.

 

[Trippi]

The best looking...

That is quite "Black"quese

Without a doubt i would go for the Italian player.

You can say that according to the origin of the Club Internazionale,it welcomes any players regardless of nationality but those circumstances were very different. I don't want to act pedantic and know it all about the Club and its history but during those times, Bilan didn't welcome International Players and thats why the need for welcoming international players arose but now times have changed and no Club, Bilan included, has a restriction on the foreign players, apart from the regulation imposed by EU, so the initial reason doesn't hold as strong as it was.

Also, bringing local based players would have a special meaning for the supporters. They might continue supporting regardless but having a local player /Italian Player certainly creates a special bond amongst the supporters. Also giving the example of few local/Italian origin players who had chosen other clubs over us doesn't help because if you take an average of the players and their affinity towards the Club the local players would have that extra reason to stay at the Club.

Also lastly, people who come down to the stadium week in week out definitely deserve more recognition than people who are supporting them from outside. I am not saying that people who are supporting from the Net/TV are less genuine than the ones who are in the stadium week in week out. its a highly contentious debate and i have my own personal opinion about it. But definitely the ones in the stadium would have to applauded to be there. And cultivating/buying Local/Italian players should be a priority as a tribute to the local supporters as well.

 

[Alessandro]

That is quite "Black"quese

Without a doubt i would go for the Italian player.

You can say that according to the origin of the Club Internazionale,it welcomes any players regardless of nationality but those circumstances were very different. I don't want to act pedantic and know it all about the Club and its history but during those times, Bilan didn't welcome International Players and thats why the need for welcoming international players arose but now times have changed and no Club, Bilan included, has a restriction on the foreign players, apart from the regulation imposed by EU, so the initial reason doesn't hold as strong as it was.

Also, bringing local based players would have a special meaning for the supporters. They might continue supporting regardless but having a local player /Italian Player certainly creates a special bond amongst the supporters. Also giving the example of few local/Italian origin players who had chosen other clubs over us doesn't help because if you take an average of the players and their affinity towards the Club the local players would have that extra reason to stay at the Club.

Also lastly, people who come down to the stadium week in week out definitely deserve more recognition than people who are supporting them from outside. I am not saying that people who are supporting from the Net/TV are less genuine than the ones who are in the stadium week in week out. its a highly contentious debate and i have my own personal opinion about it. But definitely the ones in the stadium would have to applauded to be there. And cultivating/buying Local/Italian players should be a priority as a tribute to the local supporters as well.

This...

 

[Domenico]

That is quite "Black"quese

Without a doubt i would go for the Italian player.

You can say that according to the origin of the Club Internazionale,it welcomes any players regardless of nationality but those circumstances were very different. I don't want to act pedantic and know it all about the Club and its history but during those times, Bilan didn't welcome International Players and thats why the need for welcoming international players arose but now times have changed and no Club, Bilan included, has a restriction on the foreign players, apart from the regulation imposed by EU, so the initial reason doesn't hold as strong as it was.

Also, bringing local based players would have a special meaning for the supporters. They might continue supporting regardless but having a local player /Italian Player certainly creates a special bond amongst the supporters. Also giving the example of few local/Italian origin players who had chosen other clubs over us doesn't help because if you take an average of the players and their affinity towards the Club the local players would have that extra reason to stay at the Club.

Also lastly, people who come down to the stadium week in week out definitely deserve more recognition than people who are supporting them from outside. I am not saying that people who are supporting from the Net/TV are less genuine than the ones who are in the stadium week in week out. its a highly contentious debate and i have my own personal opinion about it. But definitely the ones in the stadium would have to applauded to be there. And cultivating/buying Local/Italian players should be a priority as a tribute to the local supporters as well.

:star: :thumbsup:

 

[Handoyo]

I'm too lazy to read all about the CL regulation of club-associated club-trained club-goers shit regulation, but if we are to adhere to that rule, we may need go Italian regardless of the quality of the player?

 

[cloudq]

I'm too lazy to read all about the CL regulation of club-associated club-trained club-goers shit regulation, but if we are to adhere to that rule, we may need go Italian regardless of the quality of the player?

no we dont.

as long as a player spends their formative years playing at inter (club trained) or in italy (association trained) we're fine.

prime example. goran pandev was an inter player since he was 18yo, but spent the majority of his 18-21 years somewhere else (spezia, ancona, lazio), he's still an association trained player.

biabiany was an association trained player (replaced by pazzini).

only real unfortunate thing is, we had finally began to produce some gems, but we had to offload them for one reason or another (balotelli, santon) and now we're down 2 club trained players.

 

[Handoyo]

Cool, thanks cloudy!

 

[Jimmy]

Wow, our darkest era being described under Hector Cuper. That is amazing. I've been through the Lucescu's, the CL-knockout against Helsingborg with Lippi. Hell, even Benitez. And the one era to be described as our darkest... was Cuper.

Incredible. If anything, Cuper was the one who set the wheels in motion and started to build a team and almost performed a miracle.

 

[vitomins]

no we dont.

as long as a player spends their formative years playing at inter (club trained) or in italy (association trained) we're fine.

prime example. goran pandev was an inter player since he was 18yo, but spent the majority of his 18-21 years somewhere else (spezia, ancona, lazio), he's still an association trained player.

biabiany was an association trained player (replaced by pazzini).

only real unfortunate thing is, we had finally began to produce some gems, but we had to offload them for one reason or another (balotelli, santon) and now we're down 2 club trained players.

Biabiany was Club Trained. He was at Inter from 2004-2007 before we started loaning him out.

 

[cloudq]

Biabiany was Club Trained. He was at Inter from 2004-2007 before we started loaning him out.

moot point.

hes a sampdoria player now

 

[cloudq]

Wow, our darkest era being described under Hector Cuper. That is amazing. I've been through the Lucescu's, the CL-knockout against Helsingborg with Lippi. Hell, even Benitez. And the one era to be described as our darkest... was Cuper.

Incredible. If anything, Cuper was the one who set the wheels in motion and started to build a team and almost performed a miracle.

longest scudetto drought under cuper.

zero scudetti
zero european cups
zero coppa italia
zero super cups

euroderby
may 5, 2002

selling pirlo, buying guly
seedorf for coco (we got offered rui costa ffs)
misused ronaldo
misused recoba (the left wing? WTF)
missed out on kaka (brescia wanted 4mil to co-own kaka 1 entire year before milan got him)
missed out on ronaldinho (not cuper's kind of player)

and worst of all: anti-football.

at least if you're going to play defend with 10 men and "launch the ball to vieri", at least have something to show for it

it wasnt until cuper got the sack, mancini brought in his lazio buddies and adriano did we began to have hope again

 

[snake]

Also lastly, people who come down to the stadium week in week out definitely deserve more recognition than people who are supporting them from outside. I am not saying that people who are supporting from the Net/TV are less genuine than the ones who are in the stadium week in week out. its a highly contentious debate and i have my own personal opinion about it. But definitely the ones in the stadium would have to applauded to be there. And cultivating/buying Local/Italian players should be a priority as a tribute to the local supporters as well.

Conversely, I gaurauntee you that if the majority of members who have signed up to this forum, lived in Milano, they would go to each and every game.

You may say those fans in Italy deserve more praise for being there week in week out...Well if anything, I think it's HARDER to support a team from abroad when you can't go to the game.

Applaud those fans that live 10 mins from the stadium for showing up?

How about the fan out in Vietnam, waking up at 4:30am on a work morning, wearing his replica Inter shirt covering his uneven Inter tattoo.. Does he not deserve an applause, if not more-so?