Stefano Sensi

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So is he gone or did Inter decide to keep him cause they'd be a shortage in the midfield? Or did they just screw up?
 

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Inter is waiting for Leicester to send official offer so that everything can be settled officially.
 

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You make up Thuram 20m deal out of nowhere, trying to be wiseass with that suggestion than you wonder why people ignore it. Thuram's market value will be a lot higher in the summer. If he wants to leave, the price will be over 50m.

While with Hakimi, he got an offer from PSG, was willing to move as we HAD TO sell. We found a good price for him which was record price for a wingback at the time and it's still a record price. I don't get how can you insist we should have got even more. The buyers do not care how much plusvalenza we make in these deals. They offer what they think is fair. Let it be Real, City, Bayern, PSG or whatever. They don't overpay just because they are rich.

We weren't in a position to try to squeeze the maximum possible price, waiting for extra 1-2 months. We simply weren't able to do that at the time.
Sell the whole team then. Marotta screams to the whole world we need to sell, every summer. We have (not had) to sell now too, right?

I am sure any of our starters leaving and +20m on the plusvalenza make you happy. All the bad timing can be excused by "we don't know" in your book.
 

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Meanwhile, rube got Diallo and Alcaraz. Fucking Suning is killing us.
 

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Sell the whole team then. Marotta screams to the whole world we need to sell, every summer. We have (not had) to sell now too, right?

I am sure any of our starters leaving and +20m on the plusvalenza make you happy. All the bad timing can be excused by "we don't know" in your book.
Talk about hyperbole. "Sell the whole team then". No, we don't have to sell our whole team now. I think we don't need to sell anyone this summer.
 

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No, I never resisted the sale of Skriniar, and I don't like Icardi. Why tf do you keep pushing me to those two? :lol:
Hakimi had 4 more years contract. Skriniar was about to expire.
Zhang didn't block the deal coz he wanted more. He was too naïve to trust lies ("I wanna be Inter Hamsik") and wanted to keep him.
Lovely how both of you ignore my suggestion of selling Thuram for 20m as you also see that deal is bullshit. Despite the same profit & contract duration.
Your position is that we sold Hakimi for cheap and we could have squeezed more if we decided to wait more and tried to push PSG for more, isn't it?
And, I'm just showed to you a fresh example what happened when we did precisely this with Skriniar. Zhang wanted more, 65-70 at least. There were a lot of rumors about it. You just ignore the fact that if we asked for more for Hakimi, PSG could have stepped back, which would have forced another sale. Or they would have wait more and push us to reduce more. You make your opinion as a clear fact, which it is not. My example with Icardi was about the same. Many Inter fans believed (like you with Hakimi) that we sold him to cheaply to PSG, when there was only PSG ready to pay that money for him. There were some theories that we could easily sell him for 100 mln, and some other rubbish, which were based on nothing.
About Thuram, I don't know how you decide that we shall sell him for exactly 20 mln?! Hakimi's valuation when we sold him was about 50-60mln iirc. Your opinion could be that he worth 150mln, but who cares? Maybe if we weren't forced to sell, we could have gotten something like 80.mln at most. Now, if we can sell Thuram for like 60mln at most, but we shall sell him at the end of the season for some reason, and the other clubs know it, 40-45 mln will be a decent deal for us. Not 20.
 

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Di Marzio actually reported some 20 minutes ago that the deal is closing. Sensi is also not in Appiano today, so it is happening.
 

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Keeping him on the bench for the Fiorentina game was a dumb move. We didn’t even end up using Klassen!
 

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Your position is that we sold Hakimi for cheap and we could have squeezed more if we decided to wait more and tried to push PSG for more, isn't it?
And, I'm just showed to you a fresh example what happened when we did precisely this with Skriniar. Zhang wanted more, 65-70 at least. There were a lot of rumors about it. You just ignore the fact that if we asked for more for Hakimi, PSG could have stepped back, which would have forced another sale. Or they would have wait more and push us to reduce more. You make your opinion as a clear fact, which it is not. My example with Icardi was about the same. Many Inter fans believed (like you with Hakimi) that we sold him to cheaply to PSG, when there was only PSG ready to pay that money for him. There were some theories that we could easily sell him for 100 mln, and some other rubbish, which were based on nothing.
About Thuram, I don't know how you decide that we shall sell him for exactly 20 mln?! Hakimi's valuation when we sold him was about 50-60mln iirc. Your opinion could be that he worth 150mln, but who cares? Maybe if we weren't forced to sell, we could have gotten something like 80.mln at most. Now, if we can sell Thuram for like 60mln at most, but we shall sell him at the end of the season for some reason, and the other clubs know it, 40-45 mln will be a decent deal for us. Not 20.
Hakimi had 4 years left in his contract, Skriniar had 4 months till he could officially discuss free agency...
 

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Hakimi had 4 years left in his contract, Skriniar had 4 months till he could officially discuss free agency...
This doesn't matter. My point is that if someone decides to squeeze more money, takes more additional risk, something to go wrong.
While his point is that we could have taken more money easily.
 

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About Thuram, I don't know how you decide that we shall sell him for exactly 20 mln?! Hakimi's valuation when we sold him was about 50-60mln iirc. Your opinion could be that he worth 150mln, but who cares? Maybe if we weren't forced to sell, we could have gotten something like 80.mln at most. Now, if we can sell Thuram for like 60mln at most, but we shall sell him at the end of the season for some reason, and the other clubs know it, 40-45 mln will be a decent deal for us. Not 20.
Numbers are different, but to put the same bar:

- selling a 30m for 0 = fuck up (Skriniar)
- selling a 30m for 30m = normal deal. Bad if there is no proper replacement.
- selling a 30m for 60m = great deal (Onana)

What are you trying to argue if you also admit (?!?) Yes our finance was red flagged, it did not make a bad sale good. Even if that PSG's was the highest bid that summer (which I disagree anw), we grabbed the most out of the shitty situation =/= great business. Just as serious as selling Lautaro for whatever he is worth now.
 

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Numbers are different, but to put the same bar:

- selling a 30m for 0 = fuck up (Skriniar)
- selling a 30m for 30m = normal deal. Bad if there is no proper replacement.
- selling a 30m for 60m = great deal (Onana)

What are you trying to argue if you also admit (?!?) Yes our finance was red flagged, it did not make a bad sale good. Even if that PSG's was the highest bid that summer (which I disagree anw), we grabbed the most out of the shitty situation =/= great business. Just as serious as selling Lautaro for whatever he is worth now.
No. You just put some bar for yourself, and you claim that according this bar, the deal is bad, and present that as a fact, which is not, of course.
the facts are - we got him for 40+5mln, he was very important for our scudetto season, and then we were forced to sell him for 60+8 mln (according Transfermarkt), and we got rid of his big salary as well. This is a good deal. Not great, because he is very good player indeed, but definitely not bad, considering all circumstances involved.
 

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No. You just put some bar for yourself, and you claim that according this bar, the deal is bad, and present that as a fact, which is not, of course.
the facts are - we got him for 40+5mln, he was very important for our scudetto season, and then we were forced to sell him for 60+8 mln (according Transfermarkt), and we got rid of his big salary as well. This is a good deal. Not great, because he is very good player indeed, but definitely not bad, considering all circumstances involved.
If I spam 6 different numbers nobody is care to read lol. That was what I said. Great buy, bad sell. Two separate things.

I quote because you put this deal in the same category as Onana, 55m profit a year later. Which means it was a great deal, obviously wasnt.

Selling a player at Hakimi profile at +15m after a Scudetto is as easy as eating a piece of cake. Everybody gonna grab this discount. Nothing to hype about.
 

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If I spam 6 different numbers nobody is care to read lol. That was what I said. Great buy, bad sell. Two separate things.

I quote because you put this deal in the same category as Onana, 55m profit a year later. Which means it was a great deal, obviously wasnt.

Selling a player at Hakimi profile at +15m after a Scudetto is as easy as eating a piece of cake. Everybody gonna grab this discount. Nothing to hype about.
As I said, you ignore all of the circumstances involved. The profit was at least 20mln, 28mln capital gain for FFP and get rid of his big salary. His sale + Lukaku's were very crucial for the team to stay competitive, and do not repeat post Morati era once again.
 

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What happened to the dozen tweets of Romano talking about an agreement? :lol:
 

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