Simone Inzaghi

Will Simone Inzaghi win a Scudetto at Inter?


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Won't happen. According to your prophecy we are definitely out of the CL next season.
Somehow our rivals have managed to really fuck it up.

Interestingly, only like twice in the last 7 or 8 years would 75 points be enough to get you into the CL (quick calculation, may be wrong)
 

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Somehow our rivals have managed to really fuck it up.

Interestingly, only like twice in the last 7 or 8 years would 75 points be enough to get you into the CL (quick calculation, may be wrong)
or maybe you were being overly dramatic as fuck with all your doom and gloom projections and calls to fire inzhagi?

go seek that source and tell us the last time, this many serie a teams were all this deep in Europe? europe matters a lot more to teams right now than serie a.
 

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or maybe you were being overly dramatic as fuck with all your doom and gloom projections and calls to fire inzhagi?

go seek that source and tell us the last time, this many serie a teams were all this deep in Europe? europe matters a lot more to teams right now than serie a.
Oh come off it, this is a fucking ridiculously lop-sided CL draw, lets be honest about that. There were no big teams on this side, aside from what - a shitty Tottenham?

It's not exactly like Serie A has improved and massively invested - everyone round here is quick to highlight that this squad is chronically underinvested and weak, yet now we can pick and choose that actually its a reflection of Serie A strength


That run with Inzaghi in the league where we won 1 of 7 games? Considering the difficulty of those games too? Farcical. In many seasons in Serie A history, the results we've posted this season would have us clear out of the top 4 by now. We're just very lucky that all the other competition are bigger fuck ups than we are.

And that's fine, right, each season is unique and has its own context, but we should have had probably 10-15 more points than we do now


What chances do you give of seeing 3 italian squads in the CL quarter finals next season eh?



And, TBH, yeah, I would still like us to at least look at replacing Inzaghi at the end of the season. I'm not as committed to the idea as I was a couple of weeks ago, but I think Inzaghi has shown himself to be a fairly poor manager at a tactical, man motivation, substitution, etc level. None of our players have really developed under him, and a couple of months ago the media speculated our squad was worth 200mil less than when we started the season.
 

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Oh come off it, this is a fucking ridiculously lop-sided CL draw, lets be honest about that. There were no big teams on this side, aside from what - a shitty Tottenham?

It's not exactly like Serie A has improved and massively invested - everyone round here is quick to highlight that this squad is chronically underinvested and weak, yet now we can pick and choose that actually its a reflection of Serie A strength


That run with Inzaghi in the league where we won 1 of 7 games? Considering the difficulty of those games too? Farcical. In many seasons in Serie A history, the results we've posted this season would have us clear out of the top 4 by now. We're just very lucky that all the other competition are bigger fuck ups than we are.

And that's fine, right, each season is unique and has its own context, but we should have had probably 10-15 more points than we do now


What chances do you give of seeing 3 italian squads in the CL quarter finals next season eh?



And, TBH, yeah, I would still like us to at least look at replacing Inzaghi at the end of the season. I'm not as committed to the idea as I was a couple of weeks ago, but I think Inzaghi has shown himself to be a fairly poor manager at a tactical, man motivation, substitution, etc level. None of our players have really developed under him, and a couple of months ago the media speculated our squad was worth 200mil less than when we started the season.
So Napoli is all of a sudden not a top team this season? The same team that kicked out Liverpool? Or Benfica who topped the group with Juve and PSG and who was the favorite against us? Did you also forget that we got out of that ridiculous group that noone in the world but Sawyer thought we'd be able to escape? Give the man the credit he deserves.
 

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So Napoli is all of a sudden not a top team this season? The same team that kicked out Liverpool? Or Benfica who topped the group with Juve and PSG and who was the favorite against us? Did you also forget that we got out of that ridiculous group that noone in the world but Sawyer thought we'd be able to escape? Give the man the credit he deserves.
Not the same level of top team as a Real Madrid, Bayern, {PSG-ish}, City, etc. Napoli played Frankfurt and Milan. We've played Porto, Benfica, Milan.


Those are teams 'playing well', dont get me wrong, but like we're taking a loose fucking definition of top team here - Napoli who've never won a CL, only just won their 3rd league? They've built a good team, dont get me wrong, they've done very well there, but its not like Napoli, us, Milan, etc, are people anyone would have assumed would be in the CL semis at the start of the season.

The serious credit would be due if Inzaghi knocked out, say, Bayern in the R16 or something. Obviously you can only beat who you draw, but this isnt exactly Inter 2010 who had to beat a top side in Chelsea, then Barca, then Bayern to win the thing.

Dont get me wrong, the final is the key result, but we shouldnt exactly herald this as the second coming of a tactical genius or anything like that.
 
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Sure, Mourinho's run will always look more impressive, but that group of players was also a lot better than this one.

And yet, the same group of players couldn't beat Schalke without Mourinho the next year.

We had Barcelona in the group and we showed them hell. And Benfica got assfucked by us, the same team that topped the PSG/Juve group. At least we kinda surprisingly dominated on our way to the final.
 

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Sure, Mourinho's run will always look more impressive, but that group of players was also a lot better than this one.

And yet, the same group of players couldn't beat Schalke without Mourinho the next year.

We had Barcelona in the group and we showed them hell. And Benfica got assfucked by us, the same team that topped the PSG/Juve group. At least we kinda surprisingly dominated on our way to the final.
Yeah, we've done better on this run than expected, dont get me wrong. I just think there are other seasons where the same team with the same coach would have been knocked out at R16/QFs quite easily. Dont get me wrong, you can only beat who you play..
 

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Yeah, we've done better on this run than expected, dont get me wrong. I just think there are other seasons where the same team with the same coach would have been knocked out at R16/QFs quite easily. Dont get me wrong, you can only beat who you play..
That goes to most teams out there
 

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Not the same level of top team as a Real Madrid, Bayern, {PSG-ish}, City, etc. Napoli played Frankfurt and Milan. We've played Porto, Benfica, Milan.


Those are teams 'playing well', dont get me wrong, but like we're taking a loose fucking definition of top team here - Napoli who've never won a CL, only just won their 3rd league? They've built a good team, dont get me wrong, they've done very well there, but its not like Napoli, us, Milan, etc, are people anyone would have assumed would be in the CL semis at the start of the season.

The serious credit would be due if Inzaghi knocked out, say, Bayern in the R16 or something. Obviously you can only beat who you draw, but this isnt exactly Inter 2010 who had to beat a top side in Chelsea, then Barca, then Bayern to win the thing.

Dont get me wrong, the final is the key result, but we shouldnt exactly herald this as the second coming of a tactical genius or anything like that.
City and PSG never won a CL either, but they are considered a top team in your books.

Luck is always a part of this game. Even the 2010 Inter got it along the way to win the treble at the end. There was the Walter Samuel-Salomon Kalou incident at the first leg of the match against Chelsea which is considered a penalty and a red card by the books, but we escaped it. Diego Milito's goal against Barca was offside too, but the goal stood. We were lucky to escape those incidents and won the whole thing at the end, but saying it's all been a lucky run in that season or this season is nonsensical.
 

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City and PSG never won a CL either, but they are considered a top team in your books.

Luck is always a part of this game. Even the 2010 Inter got it along the way to win the treble at the end. There was the Walter Samuel-Salomon Kalou incident at the first leg of the match against Chelsea which is considered a penalty and a red card by the books, but we escaped it. Diego Milito's goal against Barca was offside too, but the goal stood. We were lucky to escape those incidents and won the whole thing at the end, but saying it's all been a lucky run in that season or this season is nonsensical.
Well, they are teams that compete fairly consistently at quite a high level over the last decade or so. They have expensive, high quality (ish- in the case of PSG) teams, the financial muscle to attract any player in the world basically, and some of the world's best players. Arguably some of their individual players are worth more than our inter starting eleven. City have smashed records in the Premiership and can pretty much field two whole XIs that are quite strong/capable/class.

I think getting a couple of decisions go against/for you is a little different when you're playing vs top teams compared to not drawing a top team in your entire run to the final.


On the other hand, this is the first time Napoli ever even mad the quarter finals in the CL. They've got two (?) very high end players right now, but there's a reasonable chance at least one of them will move to a bigger club. Very few people leave City/PSG/Real Madrid/etc for a bigger club, because pretty simply there aren't many bigger clubs.


One of the best players at Benfica is a guy who was given a golden handshake to leave Inter. Our best defense right now includes a guy who was released by the shitty cousins of City, and a 35 year old from Lazio. There are probably players at City, PSG, Barca, Bayern, etc, who make more in a week than what 6 of our starting 11 vs Milan cost (all bosmans).

Dont get me wrong, that's also a testimony to Marotta and Inzaghi, but at the same time, I don't really see how one can argue Inter, Milan, Napoli, etc, are in the same tier of club as something like, but not necessarily, {PSG, Bayern, Real, Barca, City, Liverpool} - obviously some of those teams underperformed this season, but overall that group has produced most of the finalists, and most of the winners, in the last decade.


Italy as a whole did well to succeed in the group stages, but got quite lucky in the knock out draws this year. I dont think I'm being harsh or anything, its just a realistic view; in some ways, it was Italy's turn to get some luck after having been screwed a few times, but still.
 
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Noone is arguing that we didnt get luky with the draw. Every fool in the world knows that we had the easiest path of resistance to the final, but you are using that to downplay Inzaghi's achievement which is not the case at all. You have to credit Inzaghi's CL run as we have progessively gotten better in the past 2 years, something that Conte could not do despite all the backing he got.

You keep bringing up the knockout stage but you seem to forget/choose to forget that we knocked the fuck out La Liga champion in the group stage or does that not count at all?

Are you also gonna discredit Spalletti's win this year because everyone is shit?
 

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Noone is arguing that we didnt get luky with the draw. Every fool in the world knows that we had the easiest path of resistance to the final, but you are using that to downplay Inzaghi's achievement which is not the case at all. You have to credit Inzaghi's CL run as we have progessively gotten better in the past 2 years, something that Conte could not do despite all the backing he got.

You keep bringing up the knockout stage but you seem to forget/choose to forget that we knocked the fuck out La Liga champion in the group stage or does that not count at all?
When it's being used as the main argument to keep him despite the background of actually quite a poor league campaign that could have been a disastrous one, my point is we need to consider the nuance and context
 

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When it's being used as the main argument to keep him despite the background of actually quite a poor league campaign that could have been a disastrous one, my point is we need to consider the nuance and context
So Serie A is the only metric that should be used to judge him? It seems to be the most important in your eyes.. could have? Do you use that word on performance review with your employees/employers? You should be judged on what happened, not could have or should have
 

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I do not subscribe to the view that we have had an easy draw. As soon as we start arguing along those lines, we devalue the achievements of our team. It takes away from what to date, has been a very unexpected run and string of results.

It is well established that if we had been asked on the evening of the Champions League draw whether we would be happy with reaching the semi-finals, given the group we were in, the answer would have been a unanimous yes. The draw and the teams that we have encountered are totally out of our control.

In previous years (Under Conte) we were drawn in difficult groups and never made it to the second round of the competition. Today, with a far less talented team in terms of playing personnel, we are in the semi-finals of the competition. When you think about how there was minimal investment from Suning over the Summer and the club's transfer policy focusing on veteran free agents, it makes our run all the more remarkable.

In relation to Inzaghi, I was one of the posters calling for his sacking. Even today, I have not been able to get over the weak way in which we capitualted and conceded the Scudetto to Milan last year. And I am at a total loss at how we started this season and were out of the race for the Scudetto after two months. Even with the absences of Brozovic and Lukaku, that should not have happened.

I still think questions need to be asked about the first two months of the season and why our form has been so up and down and irregular. Having said that, I think Inzaghi's efforts on the back end of this season need to be acknowledged. We all know he has been on the brink of losing his job given the way the team has played in Serie A.

Somehow, he has managed to pull everyone together for this final stretch of the season and I guess I have been asking why it took so long. Perhaps it is down to to the fact that we simply can not fight on three fronts due to lack of squad depth and therefore had to pick the competitions/cups in which we would give everything to be a protagonist.

If we finish top 4, win the Coppa and make the Champions League final, I will be more than satisfied with our season. Inzaghi has my backing and I do not think we will find a better coach nor will we be able to afford a rebuild under a new tactician.

Let's enjoy the ride! Love you guys!

FORZA INTER!
 
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Don't u guys think that the deep run of Italian teams in the CL has significant impact on the performance drop off by most top serie a teams in the league?

Napoli are kinda lucky they have accumulated big advantage at the start, if it not for that they probably will also choke this scudetto run. Their form has significantly drop off too past 4-0 beat down by bilan.

Especially @.h. who consider inzaghi under achieve this season by not challenging for scudetto, it's probably less of the fault of inzaghi and more of napoli overachieving compare to the rest
 

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So if he gets Inter to the final and secures a CL spot, wonder if P$G or Premier League wannabe will come calling? If so, what would be the economic ramifications for Inter? Then who do Inter call?
 

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My two cents are that inzaghi is the opposite of conte

Free flowing football good at cup competions and suck at league.
 

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Inzaghi also deserves credit for his attacking style of play and unlike managers who say they set their team up to win, Inzaghi means it and is all or nothing in terms of results.

I believe that Inter’s fortune in the CL is also down to Inzaghi’s attacking football. We shouldn’t forget that Inter qualified from the R16 by out scoring Barca, not be defending at the Camp Nou.
 
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