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I like Samuel, Lucio and Zanetti, but if you`re going to use a 100+ years defense, it better be 4 players!

I expected our defense to leak, but not this bad! Wtf was that last goal from JC? He is a great goalkeeper, but from time to time he let some bizarre kicks trough. Not only three man defense, but Gasp also started with Militon instead of Pazzini and Sneijder on bench? Sack him at once.

Good things: impressive plays on the wings by Nagatomo, Jonathan and Obi and Milito played much better than his usual last seasson. Zanetti was not outstanding, but solid enough as usual.


Meh, awful start.
 

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It is because of a 4-2-3-1 we played and also the fact that we played our players in their best positions and roles.

In the 3-4-3 we played today, Lucio, Samuel, J.Z., Cuchu, Nagatomo are playing out of their position. Close to their ideal yes, but still out of it.

In the 4-2-3-1, everyone even Pandev was playing at his best position.
Indeed
 

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Our offense looked ok, but defensively awful. I couldn't stand our passing at times as well.

Positives: Obi, Alvarez, Jonathan, Zanetti

Negatives: Gasp's tactics, Forlan, Zarate
 

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I like Samuel, Lucio and Zanetti, but if you`re going to use a 100+ years defense, it better be 4 players!

I expected our defense to leak, but not this bad! Wtf was that last goal from JC? He is a great goalkeeper, but from time to time he let some bizarre kicks trough. Not only three man defense, but Gasp also started with Militon instead of Pazzini and Sneijder on bench? Sack him at once.

Good things: impressive plays on the wings by Nagatomo, Jonathan and Obi and Milito played much better than his usual last seasson. Zanetti was not outstanding, but solid enough as usual.


Meh, awful start.

Sorry, but Zanetti was not solid in all respect. He is usually captain awesome, but not today other than that one interception/tackle. I've never seen him so clumsy - the FK which Miccoli scored from was given away by him too. If his name was Muntari he'd possibly received a second yellow even from there. Also he almost cost us a goal by forgetting to make a few steps up. But then again, he is not a fucking central defender.
 

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to bad it's not Pandev here anymore to blame him for this defeat
 

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Someone pass me the fucking liquor so I can become a full-time alcoholic. I don't even know where to start with this one. Maybe it's the 3-man fucking defense that combined is over 100 years old! Maybe it's our starting CM duo of Cuchu-Deki that is slow as shit and completely a non-factor. Maybe it was Zarate being so rubbhish that he got subbed 38 minutes into the damn game.
 

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It's Branca's fault that we are preforming as so imho.He said to MM let's get Gasp and he said ok but B didn't realize that Gasp will force his precious 3-4-3 crap as we don't have the players for it.We could have gone after delio Rossi as he plays 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-1-2 which is fucking perfect for this players but noooooo we get gasp which plays a system totally inappropriate for us.

Even if he changes the formation we will still suck as the defense will still play to far up the pitch as it is his game philosophy to play this way.I wish I could be proven wrong by him but it seams unlikely as he said in his post-match interview that the formation is not to blame and if anyone agrees then a :palm: to them as the mistakes may not look like they were caused by it but you gotta look at it from a wider view.

For example Samuel at a 3 man defence is shit and slow therefor when they countered he couldn't catch the Palermo player and then Zanetti had to tackle him and we conceded from the FK....
 

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It is because of a 4-2-3-1 we played and also the fact that we played our players in their best positions and roles.

In the 3-4-3 we played today, Lucio, Samuel, J.Z., Cuchu, Nagatomo are playing out of their position. Close to their ideal yes, but still out of it.

In the 4-2-3-1, everyone even Pandev was playing at his best position.

I agree, but I still think the problem is much bigger than that, you guys see that the players are getting older, slower, and less motivated which leads to a bad defense, not good enough for our expectations as a team.

Yet, we don't sign any defensive players.. even if it will cost us in some games, matches or even seasons, we MUST let our future defensive players play and get experienced, in the long run it will be good for us.

If we keep going like that, not only that we will have dark days coming, but also have no future..

Zanetti is 38 already, samu and luci are 33, not to mention Cesar has been shit since Mou has left.
 

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I am the only member that could see the writing on the wall. When I saw the formation Michael had posted from the Gazetta I knew immediately we would lose this match, the question was only by how much. I am the forum member that predicted Palermo 4, Inter 2. I did not condemn us simply, I have watched 95% of our preseason games and I have analysed. I have watched Palermo as well despite them losing a few players. I knew and I said this, that Balzaretti, Miccoli and Hernandez would cause immense problems. I could not forsee Pinilla of all people bagging one. Infact in the prediction post, I suppose the Palermo coach must've read my post, because he did exactly what was needed to dismantle a 3-4-3. I was off by one goal, and the only reason we got the 3rd was because Wesley was desperately working his ass off to get in good positions.

The 3-4-3 present a myriad of problems. Its means less cover for the defenders.

It is especially madness when your centre backs lack pace, they need adequate cover to position themselves. Once they are either stretched or isolated in a circular area it is easy to spread balls into the empty pockets for runners to exploit.

Its means being blitzed on the counters, it means struggling to link play once we do win the ball in the final third, as most of our options were to pass back I said this TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN!

Do you people think I am in the least bit pleased? I have had to take some Advil because I thought I was going throw my LCD screen out of my house. I have a pounding headache, and I had to lay down to even compose this post.

Now for the positives. Wesley once again refuses to lose, Zanetti is still magnificent. Jonathan has a bright future, Alvarez proved his skills and Obi has a future here. We do not have a bad squad by any stretch of the imagination. If we just utilise what what we have in the correct manner and play to our strengths. We do not have to reinvent the wheel with this team. A 4-2-3-1 OR a 4-3-1-2 would have added stability and we would have won this game with less risks.

I don't care if this was an exciting game. We have lost, and not only have we lost we did it in the most ugly, horrendous relegation looking way possible. The first half filled me with dread, because if Palermo had abit more quality it should've been 3 goals in the first 40 minutes to them. I will be petrified with FEAR if we had to face Lazio, Juventus, or Milan with these mid-table tactics.

Tomorrow I'm going to watch some of Trabonzors games from last season. I'll let you guys know if we even have a chance in this one. I am so depressed now. Forza Inter....
 
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man this is how I know how bad our 3-4-3 formation is, when I have my friend who is a huge ac milan fan call and ask me what's wrong with inter's new coach, he says u can't play a back 3 in today's modern football, he goes on to say any team would get burned playing 3 man back line with counter attacking football. How sad is that ac milan supporters even want us to change our formation to be more competitive.

Is gasp the only person in world who sees this formation as good b/c everyone else sees the problem with this formation.

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I don't know what to say really, i don't wanna act as an expert, cuz i'm not. I liked what i saw before their 3rd and 4th goal, Alavarez and Obi were shaking the game a lil bit. But who's to blame really? Julio just stood there for the 4th goal, the defense wasn't working and you could tell that Gasperini was pretty pissed.

Oh and btw Forlan and Zarate should gel in the team...

---------- Post added at 00:31 ---------- Previous post was at 00:26 ----------

Things have got to change of that there is no doubt!

But Positives people........Jonathan can shift, milito still has it, Sneijder is easily our best and alvarez looks like he`s up for serie A.

Negative`s (DON`T JUMP DOWN MY KEYBOARD) zanetti is only a sub, Stankovic is very slow,Zarate and forlan score goals, :( we should have a new no.1 keeper ( been keeping the cesar thing back for a year)
I hate to admit it, i love Zanetti to death, but he is only a sub. :(
 

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Gasperini should understand that INTER is not Genoa to play with 3 defenders xD.
 

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I don't know what to say really, i don't wanna act as an expert, cuz i'm not. I liked what i saw before their 3rd and 4th goal, Alavarez and Obi were shaking the game a lil bit. But who's to blame really? Julio just stood there for the 4th goal, the defense wasn't working and you could tell that Gasperini was pretty pissed.

Oh and btw Forlan and Zarate should gel in the team...

---------- Post added at 00:31 ---------- Previous post was at 00:26 ----------

I hate to admit it, i love Zanetti to death, but he is only a sub. :(

You have to ask yourself how did Pinillia get that shot off in the first place. How and why was he allowed that amount of time and space to even control the ball and get that type of shot off. Excluding the fortune in it because it dipped wickedly, Cesar was caught unawares. When you answer the question as to why Pinilla was allowed to shoot it will come back to reason one. Assperini and his tactics.
 

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You have to ask yourself how did Pinillia get that shot off in the first place. How and why was he allowed that amount of time and space to even control the ball and get that type of shot off. Excluding the fortune in it because it dipped wickedly, Cesar was caught unawares. When you answer the question as to why Pinilla was allowed to shoot it will come back to reason one. Assperini and his tactics.
Ok are you done now? You proved your point, 3 man defense sucks, Gasperini is Assperini, and we will be in the middle of the table this season. Thank you.

Now move on please, and be a little more supportive! Not once in my life i was so emo about this team and we were in even deeper shit than this.
 

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Ok are you done now? You proved your point, 3 man defense sucks, Gasperini is Assperini, and we will be in the middle of the table this season. Thank you.

Now move on please, and be a little more supportive! Not once in my life i was so emo about this team and we were in even deeper shit than this.

I was just answering your question as you seemed to want to pin all the blame on Cesar. That is all I was simply doing.
 

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I was just answering your question as you seemed to want to pin all the blame on Cesar. That is all I was simply doing.
I'm pissed dude, and honestly when we lose like this i hate to read sucky comments and "I told you so" posts. Aren't we here to believe in our players and team?

I won't even come here anymore, it was the same even when Mou had sucky moments. The negativity cracks me up.

Meh :yao:
 

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All is lost...the season is over...sell the club...Inter is so fucked...

:yao:
 

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I'm pissed dude, and honestly when we lose like this i hate to read sucky comments and "I told you so" posts. Aren't we here to believe in our players and team?

I won't even come here anymore, it was the same even when Mou had sucky moments. The negativity cracks me up.

Meh :yao:

I do believe in this team. If you go up a few posts above and read what I said about our team. You will see what I have said.
 

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Sorry, but Zanetti was not solid in all respect. He is usually captain awesome, but not today other than that one interception/tackle. I've never seen him so clumsy - the FK which Miccoli scored from was given away by him too. If his name was Muntari he'd possibly received a second yellow even from there. Also he almost cost us a goal by forgetting to make a few steps up. But then again, he is not a fucking central defender.

He was the only one of the three defenders who could keep up the pace on the quicker plays from Palermo, even being 5 years older than both Samuel and Lucio. If it was Chivu instead, we`d taken even more goals.

We cannot play a 3-man defense, specially a 3 "old" man defense. But if we have to, I'll take Zanetti.


btw, I laughed at the Inter parody :D
 
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