Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

[NimAraya]

Vidal was already finished when Conte asked Inter to sign him. He was a bad investment all around. For the money he earns he should be a starter and one of our better players, but his performances are far from that. For his contribution he should earn as much as Gagliardini. Yet we have to pay him 4 more millions to he buggers off in summer. He's another example as why we shouldn't offer a +32 years old a lengthy contract on big salary.

 

[nadzington]

Well that example would not work. Other examples would not work as well.
There is a reason why many january transfer players turns out to be bad. You either pay a lot of money or you get players who have potential to suck in the team for many years.
Or you get players who want playing time .... what they don't get at Inter tbh.

Even Fratessi. I am ok with him comming in the summer. He is not that good as it sound. He has good offensive output and a lot of potential. But defensively I would trust Gagliardini more. I can see him coming here mid season destructing his confidence by playing Gagliardini instead of him all the time.

It is not Fifa.

Well with that logic you have, Gosens will fail?

Im talking about that we have not adressed the problems we have had in the midfield. Instead we have loaned out Sensi.

Fratessi is not good enough for Inter yet, he needs one more year in Sassuolo.

Zakaria would be a perfect signing, but Juve got him. There are deals to be made. Boubacar Kamara from Marseille have 6 monts left on his contract also a great signing.

 

[andrei]

Or let Fkn Suning to finally sell this club to some competent and rich owner.That would be nice for a start.

Our new owner will be a hedge fund (BC Partners, Oaktree) and so on. And then my friend we will see what "financial responsabilty", "leaving within our means" and so on!!!
If you want more details you can pay a visit to milanisti forum and ask them. Anyway there was also a delusion there, a few years ago when they thought Bernard Arnault (the guy with LVHM) will buy them and will make Milan great again! It didin't last long!

 

[bubba zanetti]

Our new owner will be a hedge fund (BC Partners, Oaktree) and so on. And then my friend we will see what "financial responsabilty", "leaving within our means" and so on!!!
If you want more details you can pay a visit to milanisti forum and ask them. Anyway there was also a delusion there, a few years ago when they thought Bernard Arnault (the guy with LVHM) will buy them and will make Milan great again! It didin't last long!

And who is responsible for that? Suning.

 

[.h.]

Everyone seems to blame sunning no one thanks them for getting us back into the CL, hiring the best Italian CEO, winning the league, signing some of the best Italian players (bastoni and barella)...

 

[acroMacho]

Well with that logic you have, Gosens will fail?

Im talking about that we have not adressed the problems we have had in the midfield. Instead we have loaned out Sensi.

Fratessi is not good enough for Inter yet, he needs one more year in Sassuolo.

Zakaria would be a perfect signing, but Juve got him. There are deals to be made. Boubacar Kamara from Marseille have 6 monts left on his contract also a great signing.

Gosens is proven player- not any youngster and it was a great deal. Not that easy to make. But it was facilitated by the fact that he was injured and didn't play half the season.

Boubacar Kamara- I don't know him... but I guess it is the same situation like with Frattesi. Young, would need time to adapt and how do you convince him to sit on the bench. Players want to play.

 

[Conan the Barbarian]

Everyone seems to blame sunning no one thanks them for getting us back into the CL, hiring the best Italian CEO, winning the league, signing some of the best Italian players (bastoni and barella)...

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We are about winning the 2nd star.

I'm not a huge fan of the Zhangs but what you wrote is totally true.

 

[nadzington]

Everyone seems to blame sunning no one thanks them for getting us back into the CL, hiring the best Italian CEO, winning the league, signing some of the best Italian players (bastoni and barella)...

The only good thing the chinese have done is hiring Marotta, before Marotta our club was caotic and thats a nice word.

40 m Joao Mario, 30 m Gabigol, 40 m Nainggolan, was the norm. Disaster. We barely made it to CL. When Conte came everything changed and he was the main reason for the scudetto. And still the chinese were trying to fuck it up buy delaying wages and rumours about sales everyother day.

Disaster ownership, and i pray for the day they leave.

 

[.h.]

Disasterous ownership? We've won a league for the first time in 10 years, we're back in the champions league, we have an incredible core of the team...

Yes, Conte and Marotta were a big part of it, but you still need Zhang to agree to hiring them, to sign off on the business strategy, etc. Sure, they mis-stepped a bit at first, but thats very common - look at City, Liverpool as great examples of clubs that got it wrong before they got it right under new ownership. Even Juve after Calciopoli fucked up a fair bit before they got things right (and have regressed to fucking things up).

Delayed wages were standard for every club in the league pretty much and they still operated within the parameters.


If it wasnt Suning, we'd potentially still be under Thohir in banter era.

Be grateful every single day they took over thre club.

 

[ADRossi]

Not enough middle ground in this conversation. Suning were in over their heads when they took ownership of the club. Their poor decisions set this club back financially for half a decade, minimum. The financial situation of this club was dismal even before the pandemic, and they were a major reason why.

They've done a lot of good things in the last couple of years, given the constraints they've imposed on themselves and the pandemic. Marotta and Conte were the right people for the job.

Now, let's talk about the future. We have an aging squad that has two meaningful purchases in almost 24 months. And the Correa purchase looks like a bad idea, at that. If we don't inject more money into this squad, the window of opportunity will be shut before it even fully opened. We're going to need to replace Perisic, Sanchez, Vidal, Handanovic, and Dzeko. Failing to do so will mean we're right back where we started.

Even if they sell us, things won't improve unless we find an owner who dumps money into us without a care in the world. We need more revenue.

 

[nadzington]

Disasterous ownership? We've won a league for the first time in 10 years, we're back in the champions league, we have an incredible core of the team...

Yes, Conte and Marotta were a big part of it, but you still need Zhang to agree to hiring them, to sign off on the business strategy, etc. Sure, they mis-stepped a bit at first, but thats very common - look at City, Liverpool as great examples of clubs that got it wrong before they got it right under new ownership. Even Juve after Calciopoli fucked up a fair bit before they got things right (and have regressed to fucking things up).

Delayed wages were standard for every club in the league pretty much and they still operated within the parameters.


If it wasnt Suning, we'd potentially still be under Thohir in banter era.

Be grateful every single day they took over thre club.

First of all yes you need Zhang to sign of the business strategy. But what kind of experience does this kid have? No sporting experience and no experience regarding running a business. You are giving this kid far more credit. He just did everything Marotta told him to do. Then our "president" flies to China and only comes back when there is a trophy to lift. Where was our "president" when it was rumours about selling the club and wages not being paid everyday in the press, and Marotta had to answer all questions and keep everything in line, in a Scudetto race. He was hiding in China. On top of that they dissolve championship winning team Jiangsu Suning. Like one month after they win the league. Of course that will never happen with Inter. But it shows their mentality and charachter.


I repeat the only good thing they have done is hiring Marotta, or else we would be even more fucked economically and would not even had a Scudetto to show for it.

 

[.h.]

First of all yes you need Zhang to sign of the business strategy. But what kind of experience does this kid have? No sporting experience and no experience regarding running a business. You are giving this kid far more credit. He just did everything Marotta told him to do. Then our "president" flies to China and only comes back when there is a trophy to lift. Where was our "president" when it was rumours about selling the club and wages not being paid everyday in the press, and Marotta had to answer all questions and keep everything in line, in a Scudetto race. He was hiding in China. On top of that they dissolve championship winning team Jiangsu Suning. Like one month after they win the league. Of course that will never happen with Inter. But it shows their mentality and charachter.


I repeat the only good thing they have done is hiring Marotta, or else we would be even more fucked economically and would not even had a Scudetto to show for it.

A leader who knows when to stfu and listen to his advisors deserves far more credit than a leader who doesn't.

Even if your statement was true which I don't believe it is, good on him for instilling a culture where the guys he pays feel able to shape and influence him and drive him in the direction they want. Many clubs become the owners play thing and they overrule the board - look at Everton as an example right now.

 

[nadzington]

A leader who knows when to stfu and listen to his advisors deserves far more credit than a leader who doesn't.

I agree, thats why everything was fucked before Marotta came in, and he got tricked by Kia Joorabchian and made all those shitty deals.

I just want the idiot to stay in China and dont come back, just sign the checks and stay there. Let Marotta run everything. Now its only provoking when he comes and lifts the trophy like he has some kind of part in it. When its only the money we need from him, which we are not getting anymore so its time for them to go.

 

[.h.]

Funny world. We only needed morattis money, yet his meddling caused a lot of problems at Inter (imho), and he gets lots of credit. We have another guy at arms.length who provides money and then still gets criticised.

Fans are impossible to please.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

People are going into extremes to prove their point.

You can't be serious saying that Sunning isn't the prime reason for our Serie A title. You simply can't.

Or, if you're saying they suck, draw a line on a piece of paper with positives on one side and the negatives on the other, see how it goes.

I can't fully criticize them for some of the things I don't agree with, because of Covid. So, they're very transparent, got some world class Italians in our team (who would've thought), and we won Serie A, because of them. Nothing could be done or undone if that baby face owner of ours didn't say yes or no.

This is not football manager. Everyone and everything works for him. Everyone answers to him, he is the last one to say yes or no, for everything. Be that Vidal's super high salary, agreeing to buy Gosens and even Caicedo.

All
Of
The
Final
Decisions
Are his.

Look at it like this, your dad decides to pay for your vacation (after you begged him for months because your friends would go too), you go there meet the love of your life, get married, kids, just the best possible life.

Who will you thank? Your empty pockets? Or your boss dad?


Now I'm going to extremes to prove my point...

Anyway. Forza Inda all the way hater!

 

[nadzington]

Funny world. We only needed morattis money, yet his meddling caused a lot of problems at Inter (imho), and he gets lots of credit. We have another guy at arms.length who provides money and then still gets criticised.

Fans are impossible to please.

Moratti atleast was a life long fan and history streching back a long time. There is a difference. But even he did alot of bad decisions, but he gaves us much more happiness. Did the Suning ownership even watch our games before they bought us? Or football at all?

I do not want to change your view of the suning ownership, im just giving my opinon on them.

Maybe if they start putting alot of money in the club again, i can start apprecating them. But for now i just want them out. Our club should not be used as a way to wash their reputation and background.

 

[nadzington]

People are going into extremes to prove their point.

You can't be serious saying that Sunning isn't the prime reason for our Serie A title. You simply can't.

Or, if you're saying they suck, draw a line on a piece of paper with positives on one side and the negatives on the other, see how it goes.

I can't fully criticize them for some of the things I don't agree with, because of Covid. So, they're very transparent, got some world class Italians in our team (who would've thought), and we won Serie A, because of them. Nothing could be done or undone if that baby face owner of ours didn't say yes or no.

This is not football manager. Everyone and everything works for him. Everyone answers to him, he is the last one to say yes or no, for everything. Be that Vidal's super high salary, agreeing to buy Gosens and even Caicedo.

All
Of
The
Final
Decisions
Are his.

Look at it like this, your dad decides to pay for your vacation (after you begged him for months because your friends would go too), you go there meet the love of your life, get married, kids, just the best possible life.

Who will you thank? Your empty pockets? Or your boss dad?


Now I'm going to extremes to prove my point...

Anyway. Forza Inda all the way hater!

If you really believe they are the prime reason you are really delusional. The players and the coaches was the main reason. Scudettos dont get won in boardrooms expect for Juventus.

 

[.h.]

Moratti atleast was a life long fan and history streching back a long time. There is a difference. But even he did alot of bad decisions, but he gaves us much more happiness. Did the Suning ownership even watch our games before they bought us? Or football at all?

I do not want to change your view of the suning ownership, im just giving my opinon on them.

Maybe if they start putting alot of money in the club again, i can start apprecating them. But for now i just want them out. Our club should not be used as a way to wash their reputation and background.

Who cares though if they watched Inter before they bought us? I don't care if they're fans, I only care about the success of the club. Moratti left us broke and nearly bankrupt, it took Suning to get us back to winning. We are now likely to close our 2nd star under them, and with some luck we can start to get back into the CL elite.

I appreciate their orofessionalisation of this club and bringing us back on track. In the long term that is worth infinitely more than another over involved sugar daddy.


Suning is a retail company, they don't need Inter to "wash their reputation". If anything, every single one of the sugar daddies that might take us over are doing it to wash their reputation. PIF weren't interested in Inter for only sporting reasons you know.

 

[nadzington]

Who cares though if they watched Inter before they bought us? I don't care if they're fans, I only care about the success of the club. Moratti left us broke and nearly bankrupt, it took Suning to get us back to winning. We are now likely to close our 2nd star under them, and with some luck we can start to get back into the CL elite.

I appreciate their orofessionalisation of this club and bringing us back on track. In the long term that is worth infinitely more than another over involved sugar daddy.


Suning is a retail company, they don't need Inter to "wash their reputation". If anything, every single one of the sugar daddies that might take us over are doing it to wash their reputation. PIF weren't interested in Inter for only sporting reasons you know.

Of course they do, thats why they bought us and try to open new business in Italy. It was all part of the big Chinese government iniative to make China world leading in football. Many owners bought clubs and are now running back because XI Jinping shut the initative down.

Yes i know, and i can accept that they have other interests if the put alot of money in the club. If not get out.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Lol at people who talk like they own the club but never put in any significant amount of money to the club we could have been the richest club in the world by now if they had invested even 1/1000 of what Zhang had.

Low self aware spoiled brats everywhere..