Luciano Spalletti

[Ed.]

I already told you the points of concerns. We just going in circles here.
Let's agree to disagree about Spalletti, and leave it at that.
Experience is over-rated btw.

Lol. You still haven't given a reason why Cambiasso is a better option than Spalletti. You stated the problem is we're in crisis and your solution is Cambiasso but you can't explain why Cambiasso is the best candidate to replace Spalletti. I am not against your statement that we have problems but I said the solution is NOT Cambiasso.

If experience is over-rated, give me an example of one coach who became successful without experiences, be it primavera level, serie C or any others. You want to see what inexperienced manager can bring to a club? Thierry Henry.

Cambiasso was an assistant for Colombia NT for 3 months and only did for 5 games. That is more of an internship than coaching.

Even Walter Samuel is a more sensible option than Cambiasso. Samuel was part of Inter as a player and coach, he has been coaching for about 2 years now. He understands the true value of interista.

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This idea of coaches need previous experience is not that big in my book. There are countless coaches who have a lot of experience who should go nowhere near the Inter bench. Spalletti has shown no signs of progress as a coach since his first stint at Roma, nor has he even improved from is experience last year. Simple things like making subs and putting on attacking players when a goal is needed. Not to mention his press conferences are a joke. Talks too much without saying shit. He even came out twice in the same interview to talk about Totti when the book was released.

We discussed about sacking Spalletti in favour of Cambiasso, a fresh graduate coach with 3 months internship in World Cup under Pekerman with Colombia.

I don't deny the level of Spalletti. I don't deny experience doesn't equal successful. But, experienced vs completely inexperienced?

Are you ayes or noes to Cambiasso replacing Spalletti?

 

[Puma]

If experience is over-rated, give me an example of one coach who became successful without experiences, be it primavera level, serie C or any others. You want to see what inexperienced manager can bring to a club? Thierry Henry.

Whoever said experience does not matter does not know football, especially Serie A football.

Speaking of inspired coaching appointments with no experience other than at youth team level, how about Stramaccioni? Anyone remember how that went for us?

I am tired of Spalletti's tactical limitations but do not think that the reins of the team can be handed to a new coach with little experience.

 

[K.I.]

Lol. You still haven't given a reason why Cambiasso is a better option than Spalletti. You stated the problem is we're in crisis and your solution is Cambiasso but you can't explain why Cambiasso is the best candidate to replace Spalletti. I am not against your statement that we have problems but I said the solution is NOT Cambiasso.

If experience is over-rated, give me an example of one coach who became successful without experiences, be it primavera level, serie C or any others. You want to see what inexperienced manager can bring to a club? Thierry Henry.

Cambiasso was an assistant for Colombia NT for 3 months and only did for 5 games. That is more of an internship than coaching.

Even Walter Samuel is a more sensible option than Cambiasso. Samuel was part of Inter as a player and coach, he has been coaching for about 2 years now. He understands the true value of interista.

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We discussed about sacking Spalletti in favour of Cambiasso, a fresh graduate coach with 3 months internship in World Cup under Pekerman with Colombia.

I don't deny the level of Spalletti. I don't deny experience doesn't equal successful. But, experienced vs completely inexperienced?

Are you ayes or noes to Cambiasso replacing Spalletti?

As a caretaker and maybe until the end of the season, i am not against it, wether it be Samuel or Cambiasso. Your explanation is correct but if you're brining in someone like him and firing a manager mid season you just need someone to bring back some motivation to the squad and bring some positive results. The fact that Samuel has more experience in coaching is def a positive over Cambiasso so yes he would be the better option of the two.

People will argue that he shouldn't be sacked now and 3rd place is still there and thats valid but he has failed in competing for the Scudetto and going through the group stage of the CL. If Suning are satisfied with what he is doing though and the correct performance and targets for the club are met then he is here to stay.

 

[thatdude]

Listen to what José says here from about 4:15 to 6:29. I think this is very timely in regards to Inter and the situation the club has found itself in over the last 8 years. It’s deeper than coaches and players.

 

[InterFCAustin]

Lol. You still haven't given a reason why Cambiasso is a better option than Spalletti. You stated the problem is we're in crisis and your solution is Cambiasso but you can't explain why Cambiasso is the best candidate to replace Spalletti. I am not against your statement that we have problems but I said the solution is NOT Cambiasso.

If experience is over-rated, give me an example of one coach who became successful without experiences, be it primavera level, serie C or any others. You want to see what inexperienced manager can bring to a club? Thierry Henry.

Cambiasso was an assistant for Colombia NT for 3 months and only did for 5 games. That is more of an internship than coaching.

Even Walter Samuel is a more sensible option than Cambiasso. Samuel was part of Inter as a player and coach, he has been coaching for about 2 years now. He understands the true value of interista.

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We discussed about sacking Spalletti in favour of Cambiasso, a fresh graduate coach with 3 months internship in World Cup under Pekerman with Colombia.

I don't deny the level of Spalletti. I don't deny experience doesn't equal successful. But, experienced vs completely inexperienced?

Are you ayes or noes to Cambiasso replacing Spalletti?

But i did...you just don't agree with my way of thinking about Spalletti, therefore, no matter how long of a post i write, or how much into details i get, you will find something that you don't like, cuz you're not agreeing with my point of view.
Hence i said we agree to disagree cuz we have different ideas about what Spalletti is doing. But ok, i'll try to explain little more.

The fact that we're 3rd doesn't give me any type of confidence about Spalletti...you cant use this argument, to mask the problems. We're only 3rd bcz every other team is shit. We literally have regressed from last year, if you want to look at it this way.
If you can tell me, right now, that you see progress, then ill stop right now.
If ANYONE on here, straight up can say, we've made a progress, and they believe in that, then i will never ever write anything negative about Spalletti. I'm and old school fan, im not in it to finish 3rd or 4th every year. Watching a game, just on a naked eye, since the season started you could see, he didnt bring any changes to the table...we still play the shitty predictable game plan. Tell me im wrong. We cant create, we cant properly take a corner kick for gods sake, but yet, we easily concede from corner kicks.
The defense have made progress, but that's not Spalletti's merit, it's Martuiscello who is know as a very good defensive strategist.
Spalletti got the midfielder he wanted...he fucked us by making N9 deal. He's the one who preferred N9 over Rafinha. If you want to belive that we didnt get Rafinha czu of FFP bullshit, then all power to you. He's very stubborn, not a good game manager, terrible strategist, terrible at making the right subs, very bad pushing the right buttons, big bullshitter, philosop[her wannabe..etc

As far as the experience topic, I never said experience doesn't matter, i said it's over-rated, there's a difference.
Experience is relative thing..it's subjective..not everyone who has experience is good, and not everyone without experience is bad.
A lot of people use the "not experienced" excuse, cuz maybe they're scared of the unknown.

For every "not experienced" coach failure you can name, i can name you double of the amount's where "experienced" coaches have failed.
Someone without experience is not automatic failure....i embrace the unknown, i see it as opportunity with Cambiasso.
But, what i know is, Spalleti, has always had this issues, in every team. I also, remember when he chocked Roma's scudetto years ago, when he drew vs Sampdoria at home. Spalletti is a quiter, he shits his pants under pressure. Always has. For gods sake, he fucked it up against PSV man. Common!! That's fresh, did you forget that?
And i have a feeling, he's gonna fuck it up this time too, by dropping us out of CL spot.

Sure, you can also add Samuel into the mix, even Materazzi...how about samuel-cambi combo? And, also, just to point out, i didn't say Cambiasso is the solution for a permanent choice, but as a caretaker, sure. Maybe he can give us that boost injection, like Gatusso effect last year. Or, OGS, at Manchester right now. Surely Cambi cant be worse then Gatusso now, can he?
Then, once the season is over, evaluate, probably gonna have more choices, and go from there.

 

[brakbrak]

lol osg and gattuso both had managed clubs,albeit very minor ones.

Just because cambiasso was a smart player doesnt necessarily mean that he is going to be a good coach. Heck, Henry seemed very smart when he was an analyst and look what happened to him. You need experience managing team as real life isnt the same as football manager. The closest "non experienced" manager that actually succeeded was Zidane but he had experience managing their youth team. Also another example would be giggs but even then he was struggling and 4 games arent enough to judge his performance.

 

[InterFCAustin]

lol osg and gattuso both had managed clubs,albeit very minor ones.

Just because cambiasso was a smart player doesnt necessarily mean that he is going to be a good coach. Heck, Henry seemed very smart when he was an analyst and look what happened to him. You need experience managing team as real life isnt the same as football manager. The closest "non experienced" manager that actually succeeded was Zidane but he had experience managing their youth team. Also another example would be giggs but even then he was struggling and 4 games arent enough to judge his performance.

Im 100% sure if Cambiasso wanted to, he'd coach in Norway, or Greece, or Serie B teams.
I mentioned those names for the effect they have/had, to make a point of why maybe i wanted Cambiasso, or Samuel or Matrix...not necessarily experience examples.

 

[brakbrak]

For every "not experienced" coach failure you can name, i can name you double of the amount's where "experienced" coaches have failed.

Let's look at this point for big teams only as only big teams are relevant to us. This is not a valid point as the number of chances that non experienced coaches get to be a manager for a big team is significantly lower than those of experienced coaches,so it is a moot point tbh.

 

[InterFCAustin]

Let's look at this point for big teams only as only big teams are relevant to us. This is not a valid point as the number of chances that non experienced coaches get to be a manager for a big team is significantly lower than those of experienced coaches,so it is a moot point tbh.

That's why i also said, its relative and subjective. But maybe you forgot to read that part

 

[brakbrak]

That's why i also said, its relative and subjective. But maybe you forgot to read that part

Im not debating that whether or not a manager is experienced is relative and subjective. I am just saying that your point that there are more failed "experienced" managers is a moot point.

Anyway, I think we should stick with Spalletti because mou or conte wouldnt touch us with a 10 foot pole due to our weak ass squad

 

[InterFCAustin]

Im not debating that whether or not a manager is experienced is relative and subjective. I am just saying that your point that there are more failed "experienced" managers is a moot point.

Anyway, I think we should stick with Spalletti because mou or conte wouldnt touch us with a 10 foot pole due to our weak ass squad

Lol ok..you really need to read previous posts.
And who brought in majority of this squad?

 

[Wallace]

Cambiasso can absolutely be worse than Gattuso.

Gattuso has actually managed real teams before, like real football teams, as a proper head coach.

 

[InterFCAustin]

So can/is Spalleti.
And he’s proving us that.

 

[forzainter257]

If it's true that he lost control over dressing room then it's better to hire someone who can be a moral boost and Cuchu could be the one. When the season is over I would kick all those nagging asses out of our club with Icardi leading the column, except Skriniar, SDV, Lautaro, Samir. Seriously, we need to disinfect the club from all the poison we have been gathering for the past 8 years.

 

[Il Drago]

I have seen many people focusing on the result of the PSV game for our recent poor form but there was also something else that happened around that time. Marotta's hiring by Suning. The first thing Marotta did was giving a vote of confidence to Spalletti which made the coach furious. What if Spalletti has realised he's gone at the end of the season and he has lost his motivation and concentration because of it? Unfortunately, sooner or later players realise these things which could explain their recent performances. Of course i could be totally wrong and this is just another case of Inter's winter curse. Regardless, we're still on par with our season targets. Unless a top 4 finish is at real danger, Spalletti should stay until the end of season and then management can decide how they're willing to move forward.

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Spalletti: trophy or Inter exit?
By Football Italia staff

Inter have reportedly told Coach Luciano Spalletti to win a trophy this season or face losing his job.

Spalletti met Inter’s board for a meal on Monday evening, and Gazzetta dello Sport claims there was more than the transfer market on the agenda.

The newspaper writes President Steven Zhang ‘made it clear’ he wanted the Nerazzurri to lift a trophy, with particular emphasis on the Coppa Italia, describing victory over Lazio on Thursday as ‘compulsory’.

Furthermore, former Juventus boss Antonio Conte would be in ‘pole position’ to replace the Beneamata boss this summer, while Jose Mourinho is also ‘above’ the other contenders.

Spalletti only extended his contract until 2021 at the start of the season, but the pinksheet warns ‘this is not a guarantee’ for the ex-Roma Coach to be kept on.

 

[Delicate]

lol osg and gattuso both had managed clubs,albeit very minor ones.

Just because cambiasso was a smart player doesnt necessarily mean that he is going to be a good coach. Heck, Henry seemed very smart when he was an analyst and look what happened to him. You need experience managing team as real life isnt the same as football manager. The closest "non experienced" manager that actually succeeded was Zidane but he had experience managing their youth team. Also another example would be giggs but even then he was struggling and 4 games arent enough to judge his performance.

I didn't watch Henry's performances as a TV pundit on Sky but what I heard about Henry is that he was mostly stating the obvious and wasn't deeply into tactics, in fact, the only in-depth tactical analysis he provided was on Guardiola's Barca and that was because he played there. Gary Neville, for instance, was much more specific and knowledgeable.

Henry also was allegedly very arrogant as a coach in Monaco, he didn't treat players as they expected him to treat them.

 

[Wallace]

So can/is Spalleti.
And he’s proving us that.

Proving what?

He's above Gattuso on the table at the moment.

Mate, your argument doesn't even make sense. Stop wasting everyone's time.

 

[firmino]

So far, our position in the standings is in line with our goals. But lately we are playing a horrible football, and I personally wonder if we will able to hold a champions League spot. We got knocked out of the competition because of a terrible game with psv.

When I watch Inter play, I don't see any signs of a work of around 18 months.

So there is definitely ground to complain and to question the position of spalletti.

He won't get sacked now, unless he loses 5 matches in a row. But if we go on like this, I am not so sure he will be our coach next season

 

[Jane The Virgin]

What trophy? Title race was over since the minute Ronaldo signed for Juve and with all respect - it needs a really challenged individual to believe or think we have a decent chance of UEFA. So the only “title” it remains for Spalletti is the freaking Italian Cup, and as far i am concerned, I’d be much happier with a solid 2nd place than a Italian cup teophy.

So again, what kind of title does this ultimatum refers?


And lets just not jump into Cambiaso talks come on guys, be real. Im tired of readin “he lacks tactical knowledge but he brings smiles back” that shit dosnt have a place in a real football club.

I was against Mourinho because he left us in the gayest manner possible, but after all the humbling sackings i think he will re-evaluate his philosophy of changing clubs and stick to us lnger. Also, its fucking Jose Mourinho man... truth be told, i can say freely that there are better matches for us when it comes to coaches, but i can never say that those coaches are better than Mourinho.

 

[brakbrak]

Cambiasso can absolutely be worse than Gattuso.

Gattuso has actually managed real teams before, like real football teams, as a proper head coach.

but thats subjective and relative..