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I want us to trash Juventus! Trash them all the way to HELL!!
 

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From Goal.com...Just look at the way they laugh at us for the Canna ordeal. :frustrat: :yuck:
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Fan v Fan: Juventus-Internazionale
4/19/2005 3:19:00 AM
Two of Serie A’s giants clash in Turin in midweek, both having endured torrid weeks on the European stage that at least ended with domestic victories. Juventus were knocked out of the Champions League by Liverpool while Inter’s quarter-final against AC Milan was abandoned then forfeit following crowd trouble. So Inter left the Champions League in disgrace but now have an opportunity to restore some pride by beating Serie A leaders Juventus. Goal.com asked a fan from each side to preview this intriguing clash. Omar Sharaf gives the Juve point of view while Danilo Pochini puts things ‘Inter’ perspective…
GOAL: First of all, how do you feel about your side’s campaign so far? Have you been delighted or dismayed by it?

Omar (Juve): It’s early to say but getting out of the CL was a terrible shock, we all expected to win the Liverpool clash easily, now it’s the league that will determine how our season is gonna end.

Danilo (Inter): Our problem is that we inexplicably threw away a lot of straightforward games when we seemed to be cruising, at the beginning of the season. Of course, it had to do with weak defending and a team with many new faces trying to find an identity. But the positive thing is that we almost never lost our heads and often made good comebacks. Also in the second part of the season we’ve been doing as well as any side in Serie A. The loss against Milan in the CL was entirely logical to me and I saw it coming the moment we were drawn against them. That is not the most disappointing aspect of our season. In any case we’ve done much better than last year I think (in the brief, pitiable Zaccheroni era).


GOAL: Tactically, where do you think this match may be won or lost?

Omar (Juve): The midfield, every game is won in the midfield. We have a better midfield and if we play it right we will dominate them like in the first match.

Danilo (Inter): That’s a difficult one. If our attack is firing on all cylinders, preferrably with Adriano in form, we’re unstoppable for anyone, as the San Siro game against Juve showed. Meanwhile Juve’s attack tends to struggle against good defences (i.e. not Lecce). So I think the forward line that has its best night will end up winning the match (or drawing at the last minute, which is always likely with Inter).


GOAL: Which opposition player do you consider to be the greatest threat to your team in this clash?

Omar (Juve): Martins without thinking twice about it. You can mark anyone even Adriano but Martins – woooof! - this guy is fast as a rocket and can create havoc in the opposition defence if he’s on form.

Danilo (Inter): That’s easier: Zlatan Ibrahimovic. Nedved isn’t at his best just yet, Del Piero hasn’t been for years, and Trezeguet is out. What’s more, the gangly Swede scored 5 goals in the last two Serie A games. But while he is clearly Juve’s most in-form striker, it’s not a single player of the team that scares me, but rather their team spirit and motivation for this match, which could be decisive in their Scudetto race (which unfortunately we can’t take part in anymore).


GOAL: Would you want him in your team?

Omar (Juve): Sure thing, he’s very talented and we would make a huge star of him. Inter will just destroy him they don’t know how to handle youngsters and the fact that they have the best youth teams and go spend millions to get old players who’re good at nothing says it all.

Danilo (Inter): Not really because we already have a lot of great goalscorers, and the numbers say we have the best attack in the league. Also I was never a fan of him as a person although he has improved since leaving Ajax.


GOAL: Who from your team should we keep a particular eye on here?

Omar (Juve): Zlatan. You guys should watch Zlatan - he’s on form and has scored 5 goals in the last 2 games and he’s ready to rock and roll.

Danilo (Inter): Since Adriano will probably be out, sadly, Obafemi Martins is a player who has beaten Buffon regularly between Serie A games and summer friendlies. Old team mate Cannavaro will be a lot to overcome for him (the slower Thuram shouldn’t be a problem), but Martins in his day can trouble even the likes of Jaap Stam and Alessandro Nesta as the second CL derby showed, although he then found Dida on his way to glory.


GOAL: What are your side’s greatest strengths?

Omar (Juve): Defence , Midfield , Offence everything. Man, on our day we’re untouchables but the greatest has to be the defence.

Danilo (Inter): It seems recently we are beating anyone as long as it isn’t Milan, haha! It’s actually baffling that we’re the highest scoring side in Serie A but haven’t scored in four games against the same opponent. Perhaps it’s psychological. But anyway our attack has some formidable players cold-blooded in front of goal. And although we’ve seen less of it lately, we have a strong reactive power, in that we just keep on playing and always get back at least on level terms if we go behind (derbies excluded).


GOAL: And weaknesses?

Omar (Juve): Sometimes the lack of creativity - we don’t create many chances to score from but that depends on the formation.

Danilo (Inter): An apparent psychological problem with AC Milan and, especially at the beginning of the season, a tendency to let inferior opponents back into games they should have no business wanting to get points from. It’s easy to say “defence”, although it’s of course also that, but then why have we been conceding less and less goals as the season progressed? Because not conceding goals is all about team spirit, about attention on simple details that has thankfully improved since the disastrous beginning of the season.


GOAL: What do your lot typically think of their lot?

Omar (Juve): Honestly I pity them as i think they are a bunch of sad losers.

Danilo (Inter): Not much actually, but beating them feels almost as good as beating AC Milan, but that goes for any team in Italy. As everyone else in Italy we hate Juve for the same reasons, the doping affairs, the refereeing scandals, their luck, their dominance of Serie A football... you know, the lot. Basically we hate them and they’re definitely our number 2 rivals.


GOAL: What single thing irritates you most about them?

Omar (Juve): Moaning about everything but I know they can’t help it they want to believe that Inter is losing because of the referees and that there is a conspiracy on them to make them lose. They don’t wanna see the fact that their team sucks.

Danilo (Inter): Their boring style of play is what annoys me most, everytime I see them playing I wonder how they can possibly be playing for the Scudetto. Watching them against Liverpool, where they were unwatchable, I even wondered how they ever scored goals! No wonder their stadium is always that empty in Serie A games. The only people who like Juventus are their fans, they have no reputation in Europe and abroad teams like Milan, Manchester, Chelsea, Barcelona, etc are much more popular. No single thing then, a lot of things. They are enemies of football and no one is happy when they win except themselves.


GOAL: And what do you grudgingly admire?

Omar (Juve): Their fans to be honest they support Inter and never lost hope. I mean, this must deserve something.

Danilo (Inter): Their ability to win games they don’t deserve to, their always decent defence, and their luck perhaps. And I like Luciano Moggi, their famous transfer “guru”. He’s an amusing old man, though much hated by others, who has tremendous know-how and experience in the football world, and is exactly the kind of powerful, flamboyant shark we don’t have at Inter.


GOAL: Who is your all-time number one hate figure (or object of amusement) from their lot?

Omar (Juve): Javier Zannetti - this guy truly represents them. When I think of inter I think of him but I don’t hate him, but I don’t like him, the guy is Mr.Inter.

Danilo (Inter): Something I forgot to mention is their tendency to purchase players who “hurt” Italy in summer international tournaments. I’m personally still digesting David Trezeguet’s golden goal in the Euro 2000 final, and as If getting him wasn’t enough of an offence they went ahead and bought Zlatan Ibrahimovic, the man who eliminated Italy from Euro 2004. I may be too much of a patriot, but I couldn’t tolerate having both of them in my team. Also Alessio Tacchinardi will always remain an annoying brat who can’t play football... like Gattuso. Luckily we don’t have those kinds of screw-ups in our team.


GOAL: What’s the best bit of business ever done between the two clubs?

Omar (Juve): Cannavaro for Carini i mean it was awesome we got a world class defender for our third goalkeeper and the best thing that even after that they still wanna buy a goalie what a joke.

Danilo (Inter): From their point of view it must be our letting go of Fabio Cannavaro, who’s having perhaps the season of his life there right now (don’t all ex-Inter players?). Honestly otherwise I can’t remember many players coming to us who were at Juve except for Davids, who somehow never fitted in our team and Mancini’s game plan and is looking for a new club now.


GOAL: What’s your fondest memory of past clashes against them?

Omar (Juve): 3 - 0 in the 2002\2003 season that day they got what they deserved.

Danilo (Inter): I remember that about a year and a half ago we lost 5-1 to Arsenal (at home!) in the Champions League on a Tuesday, and then went and beat Juve 3-1 at Delle Alpi the next Saturday, which, best of all, started their downfall in the race for the title, and suddenly got us back into it. Can that kind of thing happen to anyone but Inter? Last season we also beat them at San Siro and coming back in the last few minutes to draw 2-2 after going 2-0 down earlier this season also felt pretty good, as Juve were on a great run at the time and never conceded goals. I actually have pretty darn good memories of our latest games against them! But the first one I mentioned takes the crown.


GOAL: What do you think the score of this match will be, and how will it affect your week?

Omar (Juve): Winning this game is a huge jump to the scudetto all we gonna have to do is to keep the 3 points lead till we meet Milan and get out with a Win or Draw and that’s it. I think Juve will win this time - 2-1, 3-1 to Juve.

Danilo (Inter): It’s hard to choose between a draw and a loss for Inter, as I think Juve’s players will be strongly motivated in this match and won’t allow themselves to get beaten. I hope they can hold out for a draw so hopefully the title race remains exciting. Strange as it may sound, I prefer to see Milan win the title rather than Juventus, although obviously it doesn’t make a huge difference to us. We hope to get a result for our morale and because Juve are always major rivals, but in terms of the standings even a loss won’t change much as a Champions League place seems to be all but in the bag, therefore our motivations might be lower. I’ll go for another 2-2 result, but if we do lose I would be quite disappointed and grouchy the next day I must admit.
 

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GOAL: What do your lot typically think of their lot?

Omar (Juve): Honestly I pity them as i think they are a bunch of sad losers.
Fvck off!

GOAL: What single thing irritates you most about them?

Omar (Juve): Moaning about everything but I know they can’t help it they want to believe that Inter is losing because of the referees and that there is a conspiracy on them to make them lose. They don’t wanna see the fact that their team sucks.
Well, if Juventus and Milan stop bribing referees, maybe we'll stop whining.

Danilo (Inter): Their boring style of play is what annoys me most, everytime I see them playing I wonder how they can possibly be playing for the Scudetto. Watching them against Liverpool, where they were unwatchable, I even wondered how they ever scored goals! No wonder their stadium is always that empty in Serie A games. The only people who like Juventus are their fans, they have no reputation in Europe and abroad teams like Milan, Manchester, Chelsea, Barcelona, etc are much more popular. No single thing then, a lot of things. They are enemies of football and no one is happy when they win except themselves.

GOAL: And what do you grudgingly admire?

Danilo (Inter): Their ability to win games they don’t deserve to, their always decent defence, and their luck perhaps. And I like Luciano Moggi, their famous transfer “guru”. He’s an amusing old man, though much hated by others, who has tremendous know-how and experience in the football world, and is exactly the kind of powerful, flamboyant shark we don’t have at Inter.
True. True.

GOAL: Who is your all-time number one hate figure (or object of amusement) from their lot?

Danilo (Inter): Something I forgot to mention is their tendency to purchase players who “hurt” Italy in summer international tournaments. I’m personally still digesting David Trezeguet’s golden goal in the Euro 2000 final, and as If getting him wasn’t enough of an offence they went ahead and bought Zlatan Ibrahimovic, the man who eliminated Italy from Euro 2004. I may be too much of a patriot, but I couldn’t tolerate having both of them in my team. Also Alessio Tacchinardi will always remain an annoying brat who can’t play football... like Gattuso. Luckily we don’t have those kinds of screw-ups in our team.
:dielaugh: :dielaugh:
 

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Stankovics back in training, he must be fired up to play against juve, he must really hate them.

There is NO doubt we know who plays next to cordoba. and im glad that mancini will go back to the 2 DM's, but with 2 dm's that means no wingers, that means no Ze maria???

id still prefer Zemaria to play as a fullback.

-------------Toldo------------------
Zanetti-Cordoba-Miha-Zemaria-
------C.Zanetti-Cambiasso-------
---Veron--------------Stankovic--
----------Cruz----Oba-------------
 

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I hope we unleash some rage on them...

I mean their defence is good but its not better than Milan's and only Dida helped Milan not concede.So i am thinking we can score on them.

Oba and Cruz did it once and they can do it again and i really hope our midfield shoots on goal...

This game can come down to one threw pass from Veron to Martins. :star:
 

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This Danilo guy pisses my off all the time. He is a freaking soft inter fan, I don't if that's the way he is, or the years of following inter unbalanced some chemicals.

He made me in rage one day, he had an inter chievo preview for the first game, and he was just attacking Inter and saying how much they miss Cannavaro. :fero:
 

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Tomorrow you face a trio of sporting enemies: Juventus-Moggi-Capello..."For me it's just a sporting clash. I have nothing against Juventus. I was even a Juventus fan when I was a boy. Who was my idol? Bettega."

this is from mancini, does any1 else read this and just want to slap mancin across the side of the head and scream WAKE UP!!! just a sporting clash? Fk ME! its more then that.

bloody hell.
 

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helal25 said:
Tomorrow you face a trio of sporting enemies: Juventus-Moggi-Capello..."For me it's just a sporting clash. I have nothing against Juventus. I was even a Juventus fan when I was a boy. Who was my idol? Bettega."

this is from mancini, does any1 else read this and just want to slap mancin across the side of the head and scream WAKE UP!!! just a sporting clash? Fk ME! its more then that.

bloody hell.
See my post under Mancini thread!
 

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Portieri : 1 Francesco Toldo, 15 Fabian Carini;

Difensori : 2 Ivan Ramiro Cordoba, 4 Javier Zanetti, 11 Sinisa Mihajlovic, 13 Zé Maria , 16 Giuseppe Favalli, 24 Carlos Gamarra, 49 Marco Andreolli;

Centrocampisti : 5 Emre Belozoglu, 6 Cristiano Zanetti, 18 Cristian Kily Gonzalez, 19 Esteban Cambiasso, 21 Giorgos Karagounis, 25 Dejan Stankovic, 47 Dino Marino;

Attaccanti : 9 Julio Ricardo Cruz, 30 Obafemi Martins, 32 Christian Vieri.

fkn fuk fuk. Veron is injured and wont play tomorrow.
i hope you are happy non Veroners you jinxed him! :stuckup:

keeping in mind, mancini said both Emre and Stan wont start. that means tomorrow we play.

-----------------Toldo----------------
Zanetti-Cordoba-Mihajlovic-Favalli
Zemaria--C.Zanetti--Chuchu--Kily
-------------Cruz-Martins------------


talk about an injury crisis at the wrong time! were gona suck.
 

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helal25 said:
Veron is injured and wont play tomorrow.
i hope you are happy non Veroners you jinxed him! :stuckup:

Happy? No, I don't like anyone to get injured. Relieved? Having an evil smile? Yes. :D

Anyway, too bad than Stan isn't starting. For once I wanted Cambi -- Stan but now we have to settle for CZ -- Cambi with two wingers. Cambi will be the director, I hope he has a good game.

Bad may his last start be, but Cruz is a must for this game. He is the Juve daddy, even since his Bologna days. Not to forget Buffon's Daddy, the honourable Obafemi Martins.
 

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Roberto said:
However if you have Fox Sports World Canada I am positive they are showing the match.
:star: :star: :star: Thanx Roberto for setting my hopes up only to get crushed by the news that they won't show it :mad: They will show Chelsea -- Arsenal, then Siena -- Milan :depress: Anyway, thanx buddy, I owe you one. :D
 

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-----------------Toldo----------------
Zanetti-Cordoba-Mihajlovic-Favalli
Zemaria--C.Zanetti--Chuchu--Kily
-------------Cruz-Martins------------


Suck? How so? This team is veryyy good!

We'll also have Vieri and V D Meyde ready to step in. Cheer up! We'll make sausages of those zebra boys!

Juve is my name
Cheating is my game
Glory is my claim
When I'm so lame

Juve, your destruction is my aim
Juve, your hatred feeds my flame
Juve, your history is a shame
Juve, your corruption is your fame
Juve, watching you and sleeping are the same

Hamed, if you were a woman I'd give you a diamond ring :D
 

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Well, the prayers of some people have been answered. Veron is out. I hope they will be happy when they see tons of long balls hoofed towards Cruz or Vieri tommorow night.
 

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Frisko said:
Hamed, if you were a woman I'd give you a diamond ring :D

Don't worry, we are a perfectly legitimate couple in the anti-Juve world. :heart:

I still accept diamond rings though, from men and women. :D
 

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Well although I like the fact that Veron is out, it also means that without a fully healthy Deja or Emre, there's little doubt that the ever stagnant duo of CZ and Cambiasso will be starting. Ze Maria should start on the right and it's looks like Kily will be starting on the left. Hopefully he can do something this game. I wish we had a better left-winger.... :depress:

I can't believe they're not showing this game in Canada. I thought for sure TLN would pick it up like they did with Lazio-Roma earlier in the year. :frustrat:
 

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Thanx for the link Ray, I never knew of this website. I used to go to each channel's website and check game by game or have them e-mail it to me. :wallbang:

I doubt I will be able to watch then, I might just tape it. Thank you EPL for scheduling games this mid-week, who cares anyway? Can't wait for the EPL to fold. :fero:
 

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Who the hell is that Danillo guy? How come they [Goal.com] don't ask us about Inter.
 

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Frisko u said VDM and Vieri ready to step in? VDM is injured, wasnt called up.

We have Stankovic ready to go off the bench tho :D
players we should use on the bench if things arent going great:

Stan, Kara, Vieri
 
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