Juventus - Inter (9 Dec 17) [0-0]

[Bluenine]

Juve-Inter 41k spectators. :chan:

We have as much in Coppa first match on Tuesday.

Their stadium sucks donkey ass.

What you forget is that their 41k stadium is modern with all the good stuff including a lot of premium seating. The fans are closer to the players, the atmosphere is great and they earn more than DOUBLE in match day revenues even though Inter have far more spectators on an average.

 

[Raul Duke]

I swear we lost out on 90% of the 50/50 balls and all their players seemed to have more energy despite playing CL.

 

[dejavu]

I really like how Dalbert did when he came on. Also it’s funny how we were talking about how tired Jube were gonna be because of their CL match midweek and yet they looked way fitter.

 

[Glass box]

I swear we lost out on 90% of the 50/50 balls and all their players seemed to have more energy despite playing CL.

Brozo was the leader of losing balls. Only if he scored would've redeemed himself but he missed the whole goal.

 

[Ronin]

Brozo was the leader of losing balls. Only if he scored would've redeemed himself but he missed the whole goal.

I don't wanna blame a single player but I think all our troubles started at Brozo. He was always off position and didn't do a good job at connecting our midfield & fullbacks with the attack. We really need a world class attacking midfielder.

 

[Shaun]

That's the thing though. Juve fielded an eleven that was built to play defense and counter us; instead they tried turning the screw all match. It was bizarre. Allegri himself admitted that he was surprised by how well his team played.

Allegri seems to want to play the eleven who are most tactically disciplined. Dybala, Sandro, Costa etc are all players who can veer off script were not the plan today.

 

[CCCP]

I don't understand the focus on Brozovic. Were Valero and Vencino any better if not worse?

It's not a matter of Juventus having more energy, they simply have more athletic players. We don't exactly have an athletic and fast midfield now do we?. It's not just about an attacking midfielder either, we need higher class midfielders in general.

 

[ScottishInterista]

Btw what happened with our fans who didn't get in, was a reason given

 

[K.I.]

All of the mids were ok but Veccino was focusing on defending and Valero didn't miss place a lot of passes and was also running around a lot, unlike Brozo who misplaced a lot of passes and also couldn't use his quality to be effective offensively. I though Mario was gonna replace him around the 65th minute.

Dalbert did ok when he came on, i think he needs to play more before anyone can judge him, but hopefully Santon is ok. And Icardi coming off was such a weird sub, i didn't like both subs TBH.

 

[CCCP]

I really don't understand how you can see Valero as better than Brozovic in this game. Valero offered nothing offensively, was very slow moving the ball and his attempts to stop Cuadrado were a joke of an attempt at defense.

The whole team didn't manage to do anything offensivly and exchange more than 2 passes in a row, I don't understand how you guys can pin this on one player.

 

[firmino]

I don't understand the focus on Brozovic. Were Valero and Vencino any better if not worse?

It's not a matter of Juventus having more energy, they simply have more athletic players. We don't exactly have an athletic and fast midfield now do we?. It's not just about an attacking midfielder either, we need higher class midfielders in general.

it's just that you would expect more from the best of the bunch, at least when it comes to technique

 

[K.I.]

Yes but he is not a DM and he is slow, he was always gonna struggle there. While he didnt do much offensively he didn't lose the ball a lot and Brozovic was the one who was supposed to offer more offensively or at lease not lose the ball as often as he did. If Valero was the one was playing closer to the strikers i would say its his fault but Brozo was the one who was playing there.

 

[firmino]

by the way, before this match they had scored for more than 40 matches in a row in serie A. as usual, it took us to stop them.

 

[Choppin Onions]

Icardi coming off was Spalletti throwing in the towel and making sure we got that point. He wasn't getting any service anyway and while Eder doesn't add much, he's a pair of fresh legs.

I'd like to see more of Dalbert. Santon has looked okay recently but Cuardrado ran riot on him today before Santon went off with that injury.

 

[K.I.]

About the penalty, apparently because it hit his ankle first it wasn't given and also there is a VAR referee who checks the play and then alerts the main referee to it if the play is waived on. I don't think it matters if it wasn't intentional, if the ball was heading to the goal and it hit his hand directly unintentionally it should be a penalty.

 

[Bluenine]

I predicted this when the line ups were announced.

Allegri is planning to control the midfield, put pressure there and win the loose balls. Venico & Valero will need to have a great game for us to do well tonight.

Allegri taught Spalletti a tactical lesson tonight:

1. Suffocate: He strangled our right flank (which is where most of our attacks originate) by putting in 3 levels of brute walls there (Mandzukic, Matuidi & Asamoah) which made Candreva & Dumbo redundant in attack.

2. Dominate: He started 3 physical midfielders to dominate the middle. Juve were first to almost all the 50-50 balls in the midfield. The sheer physical intensity of Matuidi and Khedira was too much for our midfield to match.

3. Attack: He started Cuadrado to exploit our defensive achilles heel (Santon). Cuadrado got behind Santon at every opportunity, it was almost like Santon didn't exist. Cuadrado was clearly instructed to send in long crosses by design. Higuain would move in between Skriniar & D'Ambrosio, pulling Dumbo to him. The crosses almost always went over Dumbo where Mandzukic was waiting. This was clearly rehearsed, and if Mandzukic had slightly better balance and finishing, he could have scored a hat-trick tonight.

This was the reason why Mandzukic & Cuadrado started over Dybala and Costa. This also explains why Juve started with an extra midfielder instead of the 3rd CB. I won't blame Spalletti too much though. We just don't have the quality bench to change our tactics drastically. There are no DMs who could have won us the midfield. Maybe Spalletti should have started Gags instead of Candreva, but I suspect the result would have been the same.

We were lucky to escape with a draw. And a draw at Turin is very creditable. Now we need to win our next 2 games. My biggest worry is that the above is a blueprint of how to stop Inter. I expect other clubs to copy these tactics to whatever extent they can.

 

[Condition23]

^^Newbie

Brate ulazim da napisem kako ne podnosim Kandrevu inace sa njegovih bezbroj centarsuteva beskorisnih i drvenom tehnikom i naletim na brata iz Srbije

Candreva is awful, I don't know how he has that kind of freedom to do everything that he wants without consequences. With that number of crosses every average player will have some asists

 

[Harpsabu]

Yeah but other clubs wont have the players to do so. So i wouldn't worry about that too much.

 

[JJM]

this is more than fine...

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dis isn't a handball and a pen...ok...ok...

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Spallo removing the trash :megusta:

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good thing we have VAR...what a joke

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good night ladies and getns

 

[TheNetworkZ]

just lol @ our last defeat being to Sassuolo