Javier "Il Capitano" Zanetti

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Disagree with handoyo and JJM completely. The memory of JZs last season and "send off" with us will stay etched in my memory forever for the disgrace it was. I'll just quote my old posts on this:

Sad....

JZ didn't deserve this as a final season. Definitely deserved a much better send off. Sitting on the bench all season long, not being able to contribute, and not being able to lead HIS team all because a dumb fucking coach wants to play 3-x-x.

Seriously Walter? A symbol of our club, a player who's averaged over 4k minutes every season for so long all of a sudden only gets 400 minutes? And it's not because we're Real Madrid now....we're still shit and his replacements are still shit.

On a really serious note; FUCK MAZZARRI. Inter management should be ashamed that they allowed an outsider to come in an disrespect the legacy of Zanetti. Not even a fucking MILANISTA (leo) came in and disrespected Zanetti like this.

Inter deserves everything that's happening to us right now. We've treated a lot of players badly, but to do it to JZ is simply unreal.

You missed the whole point. He should've STARTED WITH JZ and let him play through 80-85min then subbed him off so he gets his rousing ovation.

Managers with respect for the game, respect for the culture and history of a team, respect for the symbolism of a player e.t.c. ALWAYS DO THIS. Like I said, Mazzarri can go fuck himself. Complete disgrace of a manager. I literally cannot support our team with this imbecile as our manager.

To treat JZ like this, with zero class, being so nonchalant about his retirement, is a COMPLETE DISGRACE (kinda like Milan with Maldini). And Inter did it for what? To finish 5th in the table?
 

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Disagree with handoyo and JJM completely. The memory of JZs last season and "send off" with us will stay etched in my memory forever for the disgrace it was. I'll just quote my old posts on this:

My recollection is suspecting that Zanetti didn't even want to retire but was forced into it. It was Mazzarri and Thohir who announced it first, and before that they were even dropping hints like 'we won't have too many players over 30' and 'I want to have Zanetti learn English when he retires.' And then even after the initial announcement, it took a few days for Zanetti to confirm his retirement, and it was to some Argentine newspaper instead of inter.it.
 

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don't forget about how we've treated cambiasso and julio cesar in previous years. left it to the last day to tell cuchu that he's not staying with the club and julio was forced out in a really classless way.

the worst example is how moratti ostracized bergomi from inter because he didnt like his commentary with sky. and of course how we let lippi disgracefully fuck him out of the squad. the other day i also found a really old interview from zanetti where he was actually bashing inter about how zamorano left the club on shameful terms.

And Zanetti has still not forgiven the Milan giants for their supposed shabby treatment of the Chile star.

"It's such a pity he is gone because he is my great friend and because he was a top player. But the way he left Inter was terrible," he explained to onefootball.com.

"I mean, there was no last game, no last chance to say farewell to the fans – the same fans that loved him so much and Ivan loved them, too.

"What's all that about? What kind of attitude is that? Ivan was a star player here for four years. Was it really so difficult not to treat him better? Is there no gratitude in football any more?

"In the last games here he stayed in the stands, there was not even a place for him on the bench. He wants to play, but he is 33 and his time is running out. Nobody explained the situation here to him, so he figured it out and found another team."
 
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don't forget about how we've treated cambiasso and julio cesar in previous years. left it to the last day to tell cuchu that he's not staying with the club and julio was forced out in a really classless way.

the worst example is how moratti ostracized bergomi from inter because he didnt like his commentary with sky. and of course how we let lippi disgracefully fuck him out of the squad. the other day i also found a really old interview from zanetti where he was actually bashing inter about how zamorano left the club on shameful terms.
Yes i remember that statement from JZ that shocked me. How could our team treat their icon (if not legend) like that. It's a disgrace. And it wasn't the first time. And will be repeated again and again if we don't want them again but afraid to face the fan to said that we don't need them again. Shame.

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I never said we were the exemplary club when it comes to treating our legends, but we're saints compared to Milan.

When it comes to Zanetti's retirement though, I think we did pretty ok. As much as we should have let Zanetti play, as he was better than Jonathan etc, I have always believed that a club should never interfere with the coach's decision, no matter how much of a nincompoop he is. I'm not choosing Mazzarri over Zanetti obviously, but it's the whole damn principle. Never ever interfere with the coach. Either stick with him, or sack him.

What pleased me is that at least afterwards, we treat him right. And that makes it up.
 

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My thoughts from before his retirement. My opinions haven't changed.

Agreed. I think Zanetti wanted to continue playing. I think he should have continued playing considering his alternatives are an invalid fraud (Jonathan) and a younger, worse version of himself (D'Ambrosio, defensively solid, offers little in offense).

I think he wanted to play another season. However, he found himself with a disgrace of a coach who won't play him, preferring a retarded clown in his position, a chairman who is suddenly saying things like 'Zanetti will be a director' and 'Zanetti will learn English' and people / reporters everywhere stating his retirement as if it were fact, and ultimately found himself somewhat 'forced' into accepting retirement.

I believe that's why it wasn't confirmed or acknowledged until pressed by a reporter and I think that's why the club (representing Zanetti too) didn't go out first in stating his retirement and celebrating his achievements like they should be. Ultimately, I think this is yet another sad, sad failure in a long list. Perhaps even the most grievous.
 

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I never said we were the exemplary club when it comes to treating our legends, but we're saints compared to Milan.

And it seems that every retired Inter player gets a new job in our club ...
 

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In a long and interesting interview by Ultimo Uomo with the current vice-president of Inter, Javier Adelmar Zanetti, the former Inter player retraced the most important stages of his playing career, with the peak reached in the final in Madrid when he lifted the Champions League as captain. There were also som difficult moments, like the dual problems suffered in Palermo, first in 2010 and then in 2013.

VICE-PRESIDENT – “For me, Inter has always been a big family. When I retired I accepted this leadership role because I can keep up with the development of the ‘Fundación Pupi’, which is close to my heart.”

FOOTBALL AND LIFE – “I have always lived football with a lot of passion. I grew up respecting the sport as a profession because the real difficulty is to remain at high levels. Discipline is essential, in football as in life.”

FAME – “I notice it, especially in summer, when we bike around Lake Como with my children. The same also in Argentina, where people particularly admire the work that I have done with my foundation.”

NUMBER 4 – “When I arrived in 1995 it was one of the few shirts available. In Argentina this number represents the position of full-back, while usually in Italy it is the 2.”

WORLD CUP 2010 – “We won everything with Inter and I played all the games and in various positions, but unfortunately that’s football. Diego (Maradona, editor’s note) has always tried to be a unique coach, one that was as a player.”

ROBERTO BAGGIO – “He is a footballing genius and on a human level he is a remarkable person. I was lucky enough to spend a lot of time with him at Inter.”

BARCELONA – “In a sense, the final of the Champions League of 2010 was played in the match against the Blaugrana. It was an endless game because we knew it was the best team around, but we had too much desire to not go all the way. Paradoxically, I think that eleven against eleven it would have been even harder to keep the result because even we would have had more chances to attack.”

BAYERN MUNICH – “The most beautiful night, no doubt. To raise the Champions League as an Inter captain after 45 years was a unique experience, made even more special by the many Inter fans present in Madrid celebrating with us and who had already filled a historic stadium two hours before the kick off.”

REAL MADRID – “They tried to get me, but I didn’t accept because I had no intention of leaving without leaving a trace in Milan. Winning with Inter had a different taste and I couldn’t leave and then not do what I did out of love for this shirt.”

FEAR – “In Palermo in 2010 I could not breathe. It was a rare feeling I never felt before. It was strange because when I finished the game I began to feel discomfort in the chest as I climbed the stairs of the plane to return to Milan. Then I was examined and saved myself by this much from an operation (makes the sign with his fingers indicating a space of two centimeters, ed).”

INJURIES – “I am an optimist by nature. In football hard times happen, it is unthinkable that in a whole season everything goes perfectly. But the important thing is to address the difficulties with a positive attitude.”

LAVEZZI – “When we beat Napoli on penalties in the Italian Cup I told him he was a great one. You can make mistakes on penalties, but he had the character to go and kick it. Then he wished me luck in the future and for the rest of the season.”

Source: fcinternews.it
 

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They were both complete, and Zanetti was more complete, but they had different strengths and it depends what you're looking for. Maldini was defensively better in his prime. On the other hand, Zanetti was better going forward because of his insane dribbling (although his off the ball runs and crossing weren't consistently world class). His crossing always confused me a little bit. I've seen lots of games when he was "younger" and he showed perfect technique, while as he got older it became a lot more inconsistent. Although he did also go forward less often.

Surprised you say that. Zanetti is quite possibly the perfect athlete, not footballer. He might have amazing genetics but the the way he took care of his body, paid close attention to his diet and resting periods is extremely respectable and admirable. All of that makes me confident in saying that the only thing he has an upper hand when compared to Maldini is stamina. Maldini, in my opinion, was a better footballer, more skillful, better offensively and defensively - which is very rare - and only lacks in stamina because of how inhuman Zanetti is. Both are amazingly disciplined too.

Both are of course legends of their respective teams and of the sport. I love Zanetti to death but to me Maldini is quite possibly the best fullback of all time (most of the greatest are from the past so I can't really have a concrete opinion on who is the goat).
 

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Surprised you say that. Zanetti is quite possibly the perfect athlete, not footballer. He might have amazing genetics but the the way he took care of his body, paid close attention to his diet and resting periods is extremely respectable and admirable. All of that makes me confident in saying that the only thing he has an upper hand when compared to Maldini is stamina. Maldini, in my opinion, was a better footballer, more skillful, better offensively and defensively - which is very rare - and only lacks in stamina because of how inhuman Zanetti is. Both are amazingly disciplined too.

Both are of course legends of their respective teams and of the sport. I love Zanetti to death but to me Maldini is quite possibly the best fullback of all time (most of the greatest are from the past so I can't really have a concrete opinion on who is the goat).

Maldini wasn't better than Zanetti going forward. Maldini was skillful, no doubt, but Zanetti's skill was higher. His dribbling was practically unstoppable on his day. When he was "younger", he could play in any position on the field aside from CF, CB, and GK. He was definitely a better footballer than Maldini.
 
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Maldini wasn't better than Zanetti going forward. Maldini was skillful, no doubt, but Zanetti's skill was higher. His dribbling was practically unstoppable on his day. When he was "younger", he could play in any position on the field aside from CF, CB, and GK. He was definitely a better footballer than Maldini.

Agree with you, Zanetti is still better than maldini
 

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Oh did I find an amazing read, enjoy this lads. The last gentleman of the game:




With Samson, the power lay in the hair. With Javier Zanetti, the strength was in the hairstyle.

It’s usually advisable not to extend a metaphor beyond its reasonable limits, but not here. It is an unusual thing to say about anyone, but Zanetti’s hair defined him as a player: Simple, efficient, enduring and resilient. Rather than an affectation or fashion statement, Zanetti’s side parting was an extension of his personality. It became iconic in its own right.

“If I had a lock of hair out of place then I would not feel ok,” Zanetti told OK Salute magazine in 2009. “I am a precise person in everything I do. Feeling my hair in place gives me confidence. It’s a question of image but also of character.”

Most players forge a reputation through the brilliance of their football, but Il Capitano was different. Zanetti’s stature was not formed by the things he did, but how he did them and how long he did them for. By the time he retired from football, Zanetti had broken the record for the most appearances by an outfield player in football history, with 1123 matches played.

Between 1995 and 2014, Zanetti played 858 matches for Internazionale. He is the club’s record appearance-maker, captaining the Nerazzurri for 15 years. The club retired his No. 4 shirt and named him as Vice President of the club after his final match. It was the least they could do.

Zanetti’s captaincy coincided with one of the most successful periods in Inter’s history. The Argentinean led the club to 15 trophies: Five Scudetti (2005–06, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09 and 2009–10), four Coppa Italia (2005, 2006, 2010 and 2011), four Supercoppa Italia (2005, 2006, 2008 and 2010), the UEFA Cup in 1998 and the 2010 Champions League. That 2010 triumph, when Diego Milito’s double gave Inter a 2-0 victory over Bayern Munich, was Zanetti’s 700th match for Inter. He marked the occasion by becoming the first captain to win the treble with an Italian team.

“It’s an honour to coach him,” said coach Jose Mourinho of Zanetti. “He has strength and character, these things make the difference in a player. Physically and mentally he doesn’t seem like a 35-year-old man.” It wasn’t just the hairstyle, then.

The tendency is to marvel at Zanetti’s longevity, but that is only the effect. The cause is far more impressive. Such durability does not happen by accident; Zanetti was arguably the greatest professional of the modern game.

‘Football training according to Zanetti’ is the imaginary textbook for every child to follow. Every decision was made with a view to extending and improving his career, every action a step closer towards the greater good. As Italian journalist Luigi Garlando wrote: ‘Javier Zanetti is the figurine of a saint which every father would put in the hand of his son.’ Train like this, behave like this, play like this.

There are an infinite number of anecdotes regarding Zanetti’s commitment, but by far the best comes via his wife Paula, who he married in 1999.

“If I got angry every time Javier went training,” Paula said. “Then I would have had a sour face on every day since I was 14 years old.” Paula was referring to her husband changing into his tracksuit in between their wedding ceremony and reception in order to go for a run.

“There’s some time to spare, Amore,” Zanetti recalls telling his wife Paula in his autobiography. “The church ceremony is over. We’ve exchanged rings. The guests are yet to arrive for the reception. I’m going to go for a jog. I’ve brought my running shoes.”

Zanetti and Inter continuously reaped the rewards of his astounding professionalism, but never more so than in 2013 when he ruptured his Achilles tendon at the age of 39.

“I just want to play at least once more in front of the Inter fans, and I would hope it might be more than once,” Zanetti said. He returned to the pitch just six months later, three months before his 40th birthday. What Zanetti wanted, Zanetti made happen.

In his autobiography, the Argentinean remembers comments from international teammates Fernando Gago and Sergio Romero regarding the sacrifices he was making just to return to the game for a short time. His response pricks up the hairs on the back of your back.

‘I’d like to say to them: “Lads, it’s no sacrifice,” Zanetti wrote. ‘I love this hard work. I love this sport. I love this life. Every training session, in the cold and under the snow or sweating in the heat has given me joy, has made me smile. I am a lucky man.’ Football was just as lucky to have him.

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Merely focusing on Zanetti’s longevity would undermine his quality. There were no flashes of brilliance or mesmeric skills to his play, but consistency was the signifier of his greatness. Nicknamed El Tractor in reference to his stamina and strength, that moniker fails to represent Zanetti’s poise, range of passing, vision and anticipation.

“The most difficult opponent to play against was Javier Zanetti,” said Ryan Giggs. “I faced Zanetti for the first time in the Champions League quarter-finals in 1999, he was the right back and I was on the left. He impressed me with his qualities, his speed, power, intelligence and expertise. I played against him twice more and he was my most difficult opponent, a complete player.”

Zanetti was also flexible, superb when moved to left-back after the arrival of Maicon, and also played in central midfield when required. He excelled in every position, changing his game in his late 30s to rely on positioning over pace. Quite simply, Zanetti made those around him play better.

“Zanetti is better than all the rest of us put together,” said Diego Maradona after taking over as Argentina coach in 2008. Two years later, Diego left Zanetti out of his World Cup squad, a foolish move. Zanetti would last longer than Maradona did, retiring from international football in 2011 after 145 caps. It remains a record.

For all the plaudits for Zanetti the footballer, they are insignificant in comparison to Zanetti the man. He is a global ambassador for the Special Olympics, and has founded three separate charities to help children affected by poverty and problem with social integration. The first was started shortly after he arrived in Milan.

On the field, Zanetti was the personification of dignity, meeting with triumph and disaster and treating those two impostors just the same. He was sent off twice in his 858 Inter appearances. This is the player you would most want your daughter to date.

Inter owner Massimo Moratti paid tribute to Zanetti after he broke Guiseppe Bergomi’s appearance record for the club: “He is a wonderful person, an equally wonderful athlete and I am happy he is so loved, because he deserves it.”

Paolo Maldini refers to Zanetti as “my most respected enemy”, while Bergomi himself says that he always knew his teammate was destined for greatness: “At his very first training session, we were doing a possession exercise. He never lost the ball, it was always glued to his foot. That day I knew he was going to make history.”

Loyalty is a dying trait in football. Zanetti is not necessarily a reminder of a better age, but certainly a markedly different one. He was an antiquity, the antithesis of modern celebrity culture. Simply a man completing his craft to the highest limits of his potential ability.

“Zanetti is a timeless character,” Inter legend Giacinto Facchetti once said. “He is extraordinary at being ordinary.” He was right, too. When Javier Zanetti retired, we lost the last gentleman of the game.



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Since you came up with it, you now need to provide us the English translation, not all of us are Italian experts like you JJM.

Only noticed merda word :yao:
 

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They should bring it back as a tribute.
 

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I guess the European market may not be interested in these sort of things. Maybe sponsorship deals may have something to do with it too. Like getting licenses to previous designs might be difficult or something in Europe. I would guess the if a team used to be Adidas but is now Nike it could be problematic to do a throwback designs.
 

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Well, not really. this season jersey is a throwback to 1990-91 jersey.
 
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