Italian Serie A 2013/2014

[TheNetworkZ]

THEY WERE WON ON THE PITCH.

Geez.

 

[Mino]

inzaghi is the new BBilan coach

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[wera]

The Rossoneri have decided to promote the Primavera coach to the full team next season after deciding a move for Unai Emery would prove too costly

Ah, to live and die in Milano. They really are our cousins.

 

[Fapuccino]

Who would have thought the best economically performing city in Italy would give rise to the 2 most mis-managed teams in the country.

 

[VLE]

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/spo...eta_d7b9eac6-b21d-4f40-be38-0a3f75b69a1f.html

starting next season, clubs may not buy 'half' of a player anymore. In other words, player can't be co-owned among clubs.

official link
http://www.figc.it/it/204/2524376/2014/05/News.shtml

 

[K.I.]

Good Riddance, i never like the Co-onwership rule anyways.

 

[Howl]

Does that mean that current co-ownerships will still stand?.. Or will one of the clubs have to buy the other half out?

 

[VLE]

You can't start a new co-ownership contracts anymore. They are letting existing contracts die out, or be extended for one more year.
Smaller clubs are protesting to give them some more window, but these are FIGC's official words as of now.

 

[Pharaoh]

I'm not sure how I feel about this..........

On one hand, co-ownerships were AWESOME when used to develop a player at lower club and ensuring the club will actually play the youngster since they want a decent return.

On the flip side, trying to sell a co-owned player is a massive pain in the ass. Especially when you have to deal with two clubs instead of one.

Will definitely be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully Juve sheds some talent now that they can't co-own some of their youngsters. I'm primarily thinking Berardi hahahah

This really screws over the younger clubs though =/ going to be tougher for them to make profits off youngsters.

 

[interista4]

Yeah, hopefully now Juve won't have half the cards of all the best youngsters in the league - either give them a chance or sell them outright. And then we hopefully come in and snatch Immobile (is he still co-owned by them?)

 

[Fapuccino]

If FIGC ban co-ownerships they are bigger fucking idiots than I expected.

The biggest problem Italy faces is the weakening of top teams because they don't have the financial muscles clubs like Bayern/RM or sugar daddy clubs have. Co-ownership allows them to obtain half the card of a player they couldn't otherwise afford.

No co-ownership means less homegrown good players for top teams.

Not to mention co-owning allows your players to grow better in bottom teams, since they have a stake in player unlike loans.

Taking it off just because "everyone else" is doing so is retarded. If you want to copy Europe, go fix your shitty stadiums, not take co-ownership off.

 

[thatdude]

Hopefully we start loaning with 2-3 year buy back clauses. That's the only way to counteract this. Or idk maybe allow an Inter B, but I don't think that will ever happen. We really need Moratti to buy another smaller club so we can utilize it for the growth of our youngsters.

 

[Ronaldo]

Co-ownership was a good thing but Juve benefitted from it the most and got most of league's talent on co-ownership while we were just watching, like idiots. So in a way it is better that co-ownership is gone.

 

[Pharaoh]

Fap, the top teams have always benefitted with co-ownership by monopolizing all the young talent. However this won't hurt them at all, because now all they need to do is sell a player to them with a buyback clause


Buyback clauses screw lower teams hardcore, because now you put a limit on the profit they can make off developing a player. And with how the system works right now in the Spanish league, you're most likely going to have the upper tier teams lowball the buyback clause.


Top teams, with money, most likely won't suffer too much from this change. Except initially when they have to figure out who they want to keep or who they want to give up on.

 

[Wobblz]

Hopefully the FIGC will finally realize Italy needs B teams as well

What happened with Moratti buying Cagliari btw? The latest I heard is that some American investors are preparing 80M for the club.

 

[.h.]

Juve's benefits recently from coownership are a joke. Zaza, Berardi, i dont know who the hell else, Immobile as well?

Too many of Italy's top talent on co-ownership, just for them to ruin. Forcing them to sell or buy outright will mean they will struggle to keep all of these players happy.

Credit to them for being able to sign these people, and generally quite cheaply, but the lock needs to be broken tbh

It affects us badly too (Crisetig, Obi, etc)

 

[Pharaoh]

Juve's benefits recently from coownership are a joke. Zaza, Berardi, i dont know who the hell else, Immobile as well?

Too many of Italy's top talent on co-ownership, just for them to ruin. Forcing them to sell or buy outright will mean they will struggle to keep all of these players happy.

Credit to them for being able to sign these people, and generally quite cheaply, but the lock needs to be broken tbh

It affects us badly too (Crisetig, Obi, etc)

Initially yes, they'll have to either sign or give up those players.

But as time goes on they're just going to sign all the youngsters again, and this time just sell them with buyback clauses. Which is going to fuck lower clubs even more

 

[.h.]

I dunno. One could use that argument and ask why it isnt prevalent in La Liga, for example, or the premiership.. Youngsters are generally signed by top clubs who look to play them immediately in England or Spain as far as I'm aware, I cant think of MANY cases where they sign people aged 18-21 who then spend a lot of time developing on loan?

 

[Wobblz]

I dunno. One could use that argument and ask why it isnt prevalent in La Liga, for example, or the premiership.. Youngsters are generally signed by top clubs who look to play them immediately in England or Spain as far as I'm aware, I cant think of MANY cases where they sign people aged 18-21 who then spend a lot of time developing on loan?

IIRC Chelsea is an example of a club that has affiliate clubs (like Vitesse) in other countries and buys promising youngster in bulk, then sending them on long loans there to develop.

 

[.h.]

If you look at them, though, the only players they have really in that scene are like Lukaku, Piazon, Courtois, maybe Kakuta. The rest have spent a lot of time at Chelsea, or are on what are obviously development loans (no different to us loaning Crisetig out for example).

Its pretty rare to sign a player for a substantial amount of money and then loan him out for a couple of years, most players dont want to do that really at the end of the day.

I dont see Juve, for example, being able to sign Zaza, Berardi, Immobile, whoever else and then loaning them out for 2-3-4 years. Maybe they can do one or two players in the same way as Courtois - i.e. long term loan, but Athletico (iirc) have the right to sign him - but who wants to go on loan for 2/3 years just so you maybe have a shot, when you can probably sign for another club (say Inter) and get a good first team chance/etc.