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Karim, why don't you just go and support Fulham or something, nice, sweet fans. :)
 

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I think you misunderstood me Fabio and KT, what I meant is that why do we have to have violent acts between fans and the police such as the ones of the Catania-Palermo warzone? That's all
I am in for anything else, but that's it, I am against the damages of ultras to other people who might get severly injuried form their actions but I am in for the whole ultra idea of one club, one glory one desire and so on, that's it, don't misunderstand me like you did in that other thred.

FORZA La Curva FORZA ULTRAS !! :interscarf:
 

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All that I meant is that, unless provoked, people shouldn't beat each other and certainly under any case kill each other and fight with each other for stupid reasons, that's it ;)
 
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They don't fight with each other for nothing it's not like they agree to fight each other bro one Curva provokes the other through political chants or whatnot and it starts bro thats it thats all
 

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Mike said:
They don't fight with each other for nothing it's not like they agree to fight each other bro one Curva provokes the other through political chants or whatnot and it starts bro thats it thats all
I understand that, what I am against is mainly the similarities with the Catania-Palermo incidents, why does an innocent policeman or bystander for instance have to pay his life for whatever reason? You get what I am against, that's it, other than that I am fine :)
 

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From: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb7p.html[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]
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“When the turnstiles and security checks for numbered tickets are in place, the stadiums can be opened up to only season ticket holders. Speaking to some clubs, I have been told this work can be completed in around a month."

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]This does not include the San Siro, as it’s predicted the required work to install turnstiles cannot be completed before September, so Milan and Inter risk playing the rest of the season – perhaps including their Champions League games – behind closed doors.

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Things don't look good for us and not even season ticket holders will be allowed in the San Siro if we don't get this done.

Honestly I think the Championship should resume to play as usual as long as all teams agreed to have these security systems installed for the beginning of the next season, I know that actions are needed at these times, however the stadia where thought secure for this season and it isn't in the middle of the game that you change the rules, it just isn't fair to anyone.

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Han, you're kidding, right? :lol:

Away fans are who get their tickets through the 'away' team, and would sit in the sector reserved for away fans. ;)
Heck yes I was kidding. :lol: Was just trying to scare Stefan.

Don't worry Stefan. It's not over yet. I mean c'mon, if Juve had a chance to stay in Serie A, you have a chance to go to the Derby. This is Italy bro. All it takes is a small bribe from Inter or Milan to allow fans in again, I believe.

Anyways, I don't want an English model, police on horses, fans doing nothing but munching on prawn sandwiches, clapping for every long punt from the keeper or every run the players make. I want the Ultras, flares, chants but f*ck no to violence and all this stupid bull$hit political crap that left-wing fans should fight with the right-wing ones or whatever.
 

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Mike said:
They don't fight with each other for nothing it's not like they agree to fight each other bro one Curva provokes the other through political chants or whatnot and it starts bro thats it thats all

Maybe they should go and learn the phrase sticks and stones my break my bones but words can never hirt me.

There's no reason to retailiate through violence.

I love the atmosphere the ultras provided but they have to stop the violence it's not good for football.
 

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Fabio: Ultras resorting to violence are idiots.
Mike: Sicily is 'bunk'
Stefan: We beat you guys 5-0 in a 2 test match series, and you guys are 2nd best in the world. So that speaks volume.

Shaz: Your pakistani.

Now fight.


To be honest all these problems with Catania really all began when Luis disappeared from the forums. Get it? :D I know, Lame :D
 

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The main problem what I see here is that most people (particularly those non-Europeans, no offence!!) do not realize that what happened last Friday shouldn't be considered as _football_ violence.
I've been to Sicily twice, to other parts of Italy several times. These people _hate_ eachother, as Mike said, it's a rivalry going back ages. A football match was just a good opporturnity to spark some violence, but I have to underline the fact again, in this case, it was not football that caused the violence.
 

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h2o said:
Fabio: Ultras resorting to violence are idiots.
I second that unless there is a GOOD reason to attack other people.
 

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Karim said:
I second that unless there is a GOOD reason to attack other people.

There's never a good reason to attack someone.:stuckup:
 

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Rino criticises closed stadiums[/FONT]
Thursday 8 February, 2007
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Milan midfielder Gennaro Gattuso believes that opening only some stadiums is not the right way to fight football-related violence.

The Government confirmed on Thursday that just six Serie A stadiums are currently fit to host spectators when the season resumes this weekend.

“I agree on strict measures, but we must consider that there will be no night matches for the entire month of February and that already penalises the clubs,” said Gattuso.

“I also think that season ticket holders should be allowed access to the stadiums. If only three sides play in front of their supporters, the result of this season cannot be considered regular,” continued the world champion.

“We spoke amongst ourselves and I think the Players’ Association’s position is clear, we want our supporters. We cannot end this season without them, they are way too important.”

San Siro is one of the many stadiums which will not be allowed to reopen on Sunday and reports suggest that the Milan duo could ask UEFA to play their home Champions League ties abroad.

“I believe our championship, which is one of the best in the world, has to be played here. We have to all calm down, Ultras and players, we need to change our attitude and respect the rules,” explained Gattuso.

“I don’t see why we should move our Champions League ties. If UEFA had disqualified the stadium I would understand, but that hasn’t happened.

“I am only a player and I don’t have all the answers, I can only say that I basically agree with what is being done, but something needs to be changed, because the clubs also deserve to be respected,” concluded Rino.
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Where are the Inter players why haven't we heard a word from them?? Not one has come out and said we need our fans.
 

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the whole situation is getting more ridiculous every day.....
i don't understand, and will never understand how can playing in front of empty stadium solve the problem:undecide: .......
further, i don't see what's the connection between entrance to the stadium and the violence.....
it doesn't have to do anything with the stadiums, and this whole package of measures for me is idiotic......
people that make trouble will still go to the games.....
but the thing is that the " Catania incident " happened outside of the stadium mostly.....so the fault is on the police......clubs are only victims IMO...
there is no real solution.....
so i guess i won't be going to Inter-roma in April either:grumpy: ...
 

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Stefan said:
There's never a good reason to attack someone.:stuckup:
And that's why I made good in bold, if I say," hey man you are scum because you support Inter", that's not enough rason to get into a fight with you, but if I attacked you with a knife or gun or flare or whatever, or called you or your mother or father or such names, then you could attack me ;)
 

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Karim said:
And that's why I made good in bold, if I say," hey man you are scum because you support Inter", that's not enough rason to get into a fight with you, but if I attacked you with a knife or gun or flare or whatever, or called you or your mother or father or such names, then you could attack me ;)

Calling names no matter if it's your father or mother still doesn't call for violence. If he attacks you and you defend yourself thats self defensive. Thats the only circumstance I accept accept fighting or any violent act.
 

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Stefan said:
There's never a good reason to attack someone.:stuckup:


What about if you are attaced? You won't diffend yourself??

Or what about one of your friends is attacked, or fighting for some reason... You won't stand for him??
 

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Stefan said:
Calling names no matter if it's your father or mother still doesn't call for violence. If he attacks you and you defend yourself thats self defensive. Thats the only circumstance I accept accept fighting or any violent act.

I am with the no violence, this in the ultra world needs to change, but other than that it's fine
 

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Pajo said:
What about if you are attaced? You won't diffend yourself??

Or what about one of your friends is attacked, or fighting for some reason... You won't stand for him??

Thats self defence. And thats the only circumstance in which I accept fighting and violence.
 

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Stefan said:
There's never a good reason to attack someone.:stuckup:
sorry, but this is bullsh*t:\
there are a lot of good reasons to attack and also kill ppl
but those who make connections between these reasons and football, are retard b****es
screw all the championship (and also the CL) for one damn cop killed? give me a break
 
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