Italian Serie A 2006/2007

[Stefan]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Matarrese slams suspension[/FONT]

Monday 5 February, 2007​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Lega Calcio chief Antonio Matarrese believes that footballing activities should immediately resume. “The show must go on,” he said.

All Italian competitions were suspended after policeman Filippo Raciti was killed during the riots outside the Serie A match between Catania and Palermo.

The 38-year-old inspector will be buried on Monday and the FIGC and CONI will meet with government representatives in the afternoon to discuss when and how the championship might resume.

“We are pained, but the show must go on. Football must never shut down,” said Matarrese in an interview with newspaper La Repubblica.

“Deaths in the football system unfortunately are part of this enormous movement that the police have not yet been able to control,” added the former FIGC President.

“I cannot agree with those who ask for the matches to stop for several weeks, I think it is irresponsible.”

Many have suggested that the English model is the one to follow, as hooliganism was dealt with and finally defeated by forcing clubs to ban violent supporters and modernising the stadiums.

“That is an entirely different world. If you are arrested in England they put you in jail and you serve your sentence. Here this never happens, the day after the events you are free to leave.

“Inside English stadiums there are stewards, the policemen are outside. We have the Pisanu law, but it is expensive to implement the regulations.

“We must start planning new stadiums, the Italian ones are old. I also believe that the facilities should be managed by the clubs, who can then be considered responsible for what happens inside.”

“We had to stop, but now everyone has something to say and it seems they all know what the solution to the problem is. The footballing system is very delicate, it can only stop for a short period, otherwise it can break down.

“This is one of the most important industries in Italy and it cannot stop. I have the impression that those who want to close the stadiums and stop for one year are irresponsible and a bit fanatical,” concluded Matarrese.[/FONT]

This man is becoming a hero in my eyes. The show must go on. Dam right.

 

[Karim]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb6h.html

Renovations in progress –
Florence: Turnstiles installed only in the Curva Fiesole, no video surveillance and no pre-filtering area.

Milan: There are no turnstiles and no pre-filtering area.

Livorno: There is no electronic ticket system. There are turnstiles and a pre-filtering area.

So no away fans in our matches :dazed:?

 

[Karim]

I find it amazing because isn't UEFA given San Siro 5 stars rating?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Stadia_List#Criteria_for_UEFA_5_Star_rating

 

[Stefan]

As long as they allow me to enter san siro on derby night and don't give a rat's ass if there's no milanisti allowed in. And what actually do they mean by away fans?? Do thye mean anyone who supports the opposite team or is it just no fans in the away section of the ground??

 

[Handoyo]

Away fans = Fans who come from another city to support the team, regardless if the team is the home or the away team. So you're pretty much screwed Stefan. They won't allow non-Milano residence to witness the match.

Seriously bro, from my understanding, the "away fans" is like, well...rrr...away fans? Eg, if Sampdoria play Inter in Giuseppe Meazza, the Doria fans are the away fans.

 

[Stefan]

Away fans = Fans who come from another city to support the team, regardless if the team is the home or the away team. So you're pretty much screwed Stefan. They won't allow non-Milano residence to witness the match.

Seriously bro, from my understanding, the "away fans" is like, well...rrr...away fans? Eg, if Sampdoria play Inter in Giuseppe Meazza, the Doria fans are the away fans.

Note sure mate I have a contact in milano getting me tickets so I am not sure how I would classify.

Yeah but what about the doria fans who live in milano?? How will they now who is a local doria fan and who isn't?? Anyway we should have clarity today. Anybody know how long it will take to put in turnstiles cause if they don't allow fans at san siro I am sure there's going to be a mad rush to get it ready for the derby. Neither Inter or Milan will be happy with a not full stadium for the derby.

 

[Zamat]

Away fans = Fans who come from another city to support the team, regardless if the team is the home or the away team. So you're pretty much screwed Stefan. They won't allow non-Milano residence to witness the match.

Seriously bro, from my understanding, the "away fans" is like, well...rrr...away fans? Eg, if Sampdoria play Inter in Giuseppe Meazza, the Doria fans are the away fans.

Han, you're kidding, right?

Away fans are who get their tickets through the 'away' team, and would sit in the sector reserved for away fans.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Its not clarified if they are gonna ban the fans altogether from teh staduims that donot fit the bill, or just remove the away fans. Either way it sucks for us. We might have to even play European games behind closed doors/no away fans. The losses in revenue would be too much.
I just dont get it, if turnstiles are so importnat why hasnt Fifa put that into its consideration for giving 5 star ratings.??

 

[Karim]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb7b.html
Moratti seems to be find with it
And by the way, what's a turnstiles? Are they the rotating iron doors?

 

[Kato]

well we fail on the 5 star one on the toilets our toilets are just holes in the ground with footprints either side..

 

[Stefan]

Han, you're kidding, right?

Away fans are who get their tickets through the 'away' team, and would sit in the sector reserved for away fans.

Thats how I understand it aswell. And if thats the case I will be fine. Dam this is nerve racking. My first trip to see Inter and have to worry about this bs. Life is never easy as an Interista.

Karim turnstiles are those rotating gates. The reason why want is cause you can't squeese past.

 

[Stefan]

Phucking BS. Only season ticket holders to be allowed.:frustrat::wallbang::wallbang:

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Galliani in fight for fans[/FONT]

Wednesday 7 February, 2007​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Milan Vice-President Adriano Galliani has confirmed that the Lega Calcio will ask for all season ticket holders to be permitted entry into stadiums.

There is a risk at present that fans will be forced to stay at home given the likely introduction of tough new safety measures, which could see dozens of arenas up and down the country closed to supporters.

However, Galliani has revealed that the League clubs are hoping that season ticket holders will not be punished as a result of Friday’s night’s Catania riot which resulted in the death of a policeman.

“We will ask the Government to allow season ticket holders access to stadia,” said Galliani this afternoon ahead of this weekend’s likely Serie A restart.

“They do not represent a problem, the real problems are the stadiums and not who uses them,” added the former Lega Calcio President.

“However, if it is decided to play behind closed doors then we will – it's not a decision that Inter and Milan can make.”

San Siro is one of the stadiums which does not fully comply with the Legge Pisanu and could therefore see its gates shut for the immediate future.

“Inter and Milan have paid £14m in advance for the necessary work to be carried out at the San Siro, but it will not be finished before October,” he added.

“The Stadio Meazza is very large and 160 turnstiles have to be set-up. This cannot be done before the end of the season and we cannot do anything to change this.”

However, Milan police official Gian Valerio Lombardi has admitted that the stadium could re-open to fans with the introduction of a limited capacity.

There is also the possibility that Milan and Inter’s Champions League ties could also be played without the presence of supporters.[/FONT]

 

[minterke]

Are Ultras season ticket holders?

 

[Fabio]

Some are, some aren't.

 

[Stefan]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Govt approves "Draconian" laws[/FONT]

Wednesday 7 February, 2007​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]The Government has passed new laws clamping down on football violence, including banning evening kick-offs and closing San Siro.

“We have approved Draconian measures,” commented Minister for Infrastructure Antonio Di Pietro at the end of this evening’s crisis talks. “If stadiums are not up to code, they will be closed to fans.”

The decree is 15 pages long and counts 13 articles ordering that all venues pass the tests set out by the Legge Pisanu, which was introduced in 2005.

The clubs have asked for at least their season ticket holders to be allowed in, but that issue will be decided after another meeting on Thursday.

Among the famous stadiums closed down as a result of the new regulations are Milan’s San Siro and the San Paolo in Naples.

Also, in February there will be no evening kick-offs, so all games must be played in the afternoon.

From now on supporters will be banned from possession of flares, smoke bombs or firecrackers up to 24 hours before and after a sporting event.

Clubs are urged to create a staff of stewards to police the fans, but there will be heavy fines if they employ someone with a criminal record for this role.

Suspected hooligans can now be arrested 48 hours after the incident rather than the current 36, while the prison sentence for resisting arrest is raised to a minimum of five years to a maximum of 15.

Journalists are asked to set a code of ethics that they will police themselves so as to not inflame public opinion around sporting events.[/FONT]

I would like to thank the catania fans for ruining my dreams through your idiotic act.:depress::depress::depress::finger::finger::finger::finger::finger::finger:

 

[Kato]

man, this is gay. all that can be said. Fk all this talk of the English model, calcio is enjoyable and the ultras make the experience. Wonder if they'll allow season ticket holders in the end.

tbh, i'm lost for words on this - I don't want to travel to milano to sit down and clap every 5 mins

 

[Enricos]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Clubs - All or nothing![/FONT]

Wednesday 7 February, 2007​

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Presidents from Serie A and B sides have threatened to go on strike if only some stadiums are allowed to host supporters.
[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“There are only three options available here – we stop, everyone plays behind closed doors or everyone plays with crowds in the stands,” insisted Livorno patron Aldo Spinelli.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“There is no other solution. The Lega Calcio must come together tomorrow to decide unanimously which of the three it will choose.”
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]That seems increasingly unlikely, as the Government decree passed today makes it clear that only stadiums up to the Legge Pisanu standard will be allowed fans.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]To date in Serie A that means the Stadio Olimpico in Turin, Siena’s Stadio Franchi, the Olimpico in Rome and Barbera in Palermo.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“I am pleasantly surprised by what this Government has done,” noted Rosanero President Maurizio Zamparini.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“I remain perplexed over the severity of closing down the stadiums, because it seems punitive for the clubs, even if some of them can be accused of serious delays in the restructuring work.”
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]If Serie A and B resume this weekend – as has been suggested by FIGC Commissioner Luca Pancalli – then Palermo-Empoli would be one of only a handful of games to play in front of the fans.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]However, the majority of Presidents are against the harsh line taken by the Government.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“Stadiums are made for the fans and lovers of football. If they cannot participate, then we should suspend the Leagues for a year or two until the political authorities have found the right solution,” insisted Arezzo patron Piero Mancini. “Football without the fans simply isn’t football.”
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]There could still be a get-out clause for the smaller stadiums, as the Legge Pisanu only applied to arenas with a larger than 10,000 capacity, but it has now been reduced to 7,500.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“There is the temptation to reduce our capacity to 7,500 so that we can play, but I am seriously worried about my 5,500 season ticket holders and all the fans that have bought shares in Triestina,” said President Stefano Fantinel.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]“It is a punitive decree. The Lega Calcio had given room for collaboration so that we could all come together and resolve the problem from the source. All the clubs agree we must combat delinquency, but it’s paradoxical that it means locking the majority of well-behaved supporters out too.”[/FONT]

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb7q.html

Don't panic just yet, they aren't giving up

 

[Fabio]

Modern football is killing us..

 

[Karim]

Modern football is killing us..

What a sentence, never expected to hear these exact words

Look, I have no problem regarding smoke bombs and flares and such, but the true problem is in the nature of the ultras and some trouble makers in and around the ultra world, banning flares and smoke bombs isn't part of the solution, excpet if they were thinking of a new CL situation when we were the heros of that night

Hooliganism no, flares and smoke bombs and coreos and BIG FAT YES!

 

[Kato]

karim merda.

FORZA LA CURVA!!!!