Italia

[Hammoudi]

Well, my father cheered for Italy in WC94 because he speaks italian and has italian friends so according to you he can . I was gutted by Germany's exit, and I supported Germany big time although i don't have ties to them, I was still in shock.

 

[Ronald]

Thank god Italy will never win anything

they just suck!

 

[Hammoudi]

That's not true, I guess some of you are young and don't remember WC90 and 94, because Italy played well. I liked Germany not Italy but they used to thrill me.

90 was their best performance that I've seen. The emergence of Baggio and his memorable goal against Czech (I think) and like Frisko said, me and my uncles used to jump whenever Schilliaci came on and scored. His story was one of success, considering where he came from.

So, the idea of negative italian play is recent. They started that in the late 90's, I don't whether it was Maldini Sr. or Sacchi that started the fatal trend.

 

[Stefan]

Helal which people are you refering with that statement?

Hamed you are right you have the choice of cheering for who you want but International competitions are all about showing your pride for your country. Its just not the same if you cheer for a country that you have no national tie to.

Why should you support that country?? Just cause you where born there?? To me thats just stupid. But then I am not a very patriotic kind of guy.

Quess that will upset people. Aw well can't please everybody.

 

[Roberto]

Hamed I didn't mean you can't, that would just be ludacris , of course you can be a fan of a country you have no tie too but all I'm saying is it is without a doubt a more passionate experience when they win it feels alot better and if they lose it is even more devestating. This is the only reason I said it isn't the same.

Stefan do you have any better reason to cheer for a country then being born there or of the nationality? If it were based on who plays the best football wouldn't we all support Brazil?

 

[Stefan]

Hamed I didn't mean you can't, that would just be ludacris , of course you can be a fan of a country you have no tie too but all I'm saying is it is without a doubt a more passionate experience when they win it feels alot better and if they lose it is even more devestating. This is the only reason I said it isn't the same.

Stefan do you have any better reason to cheer for a country then being born there or of the nationality? If it were based on who plays the best football wouldn't we all support Brazil?

It's about a feeling connection you have with that country. Why don't we then support our local clubs instead of support Inter??

For me it goes a lot deeper than just cause I happen to be born there.

But I have no connection to any national side so I just support any side that has inter players in their side.

 

[snake]

But then I am not a very patriotic kind of guy.

come on stefan!

but im justsaying, every one in here is saying. We played well against Scotland, we could of done this in Scotland. i think it just sounds wrong, when most of them saying it arent even Italians.

my team has never made it to a world cup but i will never stop supporting. This is why to me, the World cup is a bore at times.

 

[Gismo]

Even in those Italia debates we have got to all cool even if the passion is there. I'm not saying you HAVE to, just that it's more productive. Especially the one side of the argument that represent the pure breed Italians and all it's identifying Italians like myself who support their football team. WE have the obligation not to step on the less national fanatics like Francesco. As if it isn't already enough that he is alone vs. everyone on this forum in the subject. So let's be more moderate from now on.

We generally GANG to much up on Francesco, don't we? Or maybe Francesco aka our very own Russian President should have I say now...

I mean no offence with this though. You can debate as you wish. I'm used to living with two parents who gives nothing about the Danish NT. They get assasinated for that here in Denmark too.

All I'm saying is we should all treat each other with more respect on this one. And no one is exempt from that commitment because Italia NT is such a proud team. The most proud NT of them all other than my own Danish which I can't see straight on. I'm way to coloured about that.

Of course the temper easily snaps sometimes too.

 

[Fabio]

Back to the Scotland game I thought Chiellini was brilliant, charging up the left wing and almost scoring. Our very own Matrix was generally OK and in the first half some of the link ups between Totti-Cassano-Gilardino were a wonder to watch. Shame the finishing wasn't on the same level...

But Kudos also to Scotland's Tartan Army, I may not like the country but 10000 Scots in Kilts at the San Siro is a sight to behold!

Fabio

 

[Frisko]

ive always deeplay hated the Azzurri, and always hope they never win anything.

sorry but not trying to be rude to their supporters. but its the way i feel.

This is the most effective way to picture my feelings about Italy: :wallbang:

 

[Jony]

your not even italian! lol support your own countries first.

You don't have italian to like their NT or any other NT, that's nonsense. If you like a country or its style of play, then you are a fan of them. Whether you are a national or not makes no difference.

I almost cried when DiBiaggio hit the goal post in WC98 and when TresGay scored that goal in Euro2000 and I'm not italian.

Well I am not an Italian but I cried for 30 minutes when Italia lost to France in EURO 2000. How is that for drama, I didn't see the game because I was out on a picnic, I asked one of the guys there to check the result on his Cell phone and he said Italy won 1:0, it was the 90th something minute. I was happy ofcourse, and then suddenly an hour later someone comes and said that France won....what a shock. I got up, went away from the picnic and cried for 30 minutes.

 

[Pulsar36]

The Year is 1994. I'm only 10 years old. Its hot outside, about 90 degrees. I don't have Air Conditioning on in my house (save electricity), so the temperature is hot and I'm steaming b/c its the Final of all Finals. The one in the USA, the United States of America. The man of the tourney, Roby Baggio, lines up for the kick. I had followed him for three weeks, amazed at his skill, first time I was watching international soccer in my life. And he lines up, prepared to continue an everlasting saga. He runs up, ready to continue glory, and - the ball sails over the bar. And there goes my dreams, as I go outside and kick a soccer ball 100s of times into my fence, wondering how wrong a Penalty Kick could be. How wrong, as I cried all day and into that night. And such a moment might not ever come back to me, as this is what Italia means for me.

 

[Fabio]

Beautiful Pulsar, Beautiful...

Fabio :cry2:

 

[Fabio]

It's half time and Gli Azzurri are drawing with Ecuador 1-1 in a friendly in New York. Luca Toni scored.

FORZA ITALIA!

Fabio :star:

 

[Roberto]

Big World cup qualifier in Glasgow Saturday against Rangers. If we're up for this match i see an easy 2-0 or 3-0 win, FORZA AZZURRI!!!!! I'd say Forza Italia but thats Berlusconi's gay political party name.

anybody know any probable line ups for the match or who Lippi called up?

 

[Roberto]

I haven't read this thread in so long, I'm glad everybody is sharing there painful stories. I'm going to admit I cry everytime Italy fails in competition I cried for 3 days straight after euro 2000, didn't cry after euro 2004 but was pissed as hell. As a 9 year old when we lost against france i weaped like a little school girl when di biago hit the post. even as a 5 year old I remember USA 94 like it was yesterday and that one hurt too. Italy has come so close but always the bridesmaid never the bride in my time and I am feeling pretty optimistic about this world cup but theres that beast of a team in Brazil which i have nightmares about.

 

[Frisko]

It seems that Peruzzi is going to be the keeper

 

[Hammoudi]

If Italy has a coach that has balls and is willing to play offensively, then they will have a real shot. Lippi isn't so, and that's why I don't think they will go far.

I am sure that he will not take hot strikers like Toni or Lucarelli saying that they don't have WC experience, and may prefer Vieri and DP. This is the cautious mentality that plagues Italy since about 98.

Brazil takes only ready players, and whether a player has a previous WC experience isn't that major. They take risks, play offensive because they can, and that's why they win.

 

[Adriano@10]

Hamed is damn right as long as italy has player s like lippi or trap they won t win a damn thing with there defecive style.
and i think Italy is missing a player in mid who controles all.
They have totti but he s not the right guy for taht they would need somone like gerrard .

 

[Roberto]

It seems that Peruzzi is going to be the keeper

No no no He was merely called up to be a back up, De Scantis or Roma will be the starting keeper. Hamed I agree that trap should be playing Toni and I also think del piero shouldn't be near an italy jersey ever again and i've felt this way since France 98