Inter's Financial Situation

cuba gooding

Primavera
Primavera
Joined
Jan 18, 2011
Messages
491
Likes
183
Favorite Player
Chuchu
Good luck finding sponsor for the new shirt.

Once Conte is out officially, everyone knows that Inter is downsizing and sell some key players. It will go downhill for next season (and probably for several seasons). Who the fuck wants to invest big in that case. Even playing in CL is no longer certainty in the future. Damning situation
 

TheNetworkZ

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Mar 13, 2012
Messages
8,472
Likes
2,548
Favorite Player
The Bro
10 years of FIF
Can we beg for the Saudis to come back

Sent from my SM-G973W using Tapatalk
 

cuba gooding

Primavera
Primavera
Joined
Jan 18, 2011
Messages
491
Likes
183
Favorite Player
Chuchu
Nah fuck off. Someone explain to me, please, in very simple terms why we still need to sell 80m worth of players after winning the Scudetto and clinching CL prize money. And agreeing to a 275m loan.

This is fucking pathetic, and is like Lille now dismantling their team after winning the league. Provincial behaviour.

I think in short, we have a really massive debts that even after we get 275 loan, we still need to get 80ish more million and reducing costs.

I know that we need to reduce costs and get money at some point, but it is really bad timing. My issues is we should have found some way to keep afloat for another season because (1) Conte's contract expire anyway (2) we already got sponsors in place for the shirt; and (3) probably will be the first season we go into CL knock out phase. We already in massive debt anyway. We should have looked for, let say 350 mio loan insted of 275 mio.
 

Conan the Barbarian

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Mar 28, 2018
Messages
1,034
Likes
1,009
Favorite Player
L.Matthäus
Hello chaos ! My old beloved friend !

Being Interista means unhappiness comes too quickly.
 

Ottoman empire

Primavera
Primavera
Joined
Mar 31, 2021
Messages
200
Likes
16
This is it, banter era is coming back....we will be battling for TOP 4 next season alongside Napoli, Roma and Lazio...

Top 4 you said? I will be very grateful if that is what we will be battling for. Otherwise expect a midtable finish.
 

kurt0411

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Feb 27, 2017
Messages
2,969
Likes
927
The way this whole whole situation has been handled has been nothing short of a farce, I hope the Ultra’s make sure Zhang doesn’t leave Italy before he sells the club. Fuckers
 

Pimpin

I'm better than Icardi
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jul 13, 2011
Messages
17,062
Likes
1,244
Favorite Player
22IcardiBroHand
Old username
DomesticatedPimp
10 years of FIF
All of you against super league are fjcking morons idiots
 

Pimpin

I'm better than Icardi
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jul 13, 2011
Messages
17,062
Likes
1,244
Favorite Player
22IcardiBroHand
Old username
DomesticatedPimp
10 years of FIF

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,622
Likes
17,404
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
The idea that we need to cut costs is not new.

Before going deep, let's look at what our books are offloading in June:
- Spalletti and staff ~10m
- Young ~4.5m
- Kolarov ~6m
- Candreva ~5.5m (we weren't paying most of this figure this season either)
- Politano ~3m (same as above)
- D'Ambrosio ~3.5m (we have an option to renew this deal, we don't seem eager to do so and I'm not sure if we're going to negotiate an extension)

That's over 30m off the books, or just north of 20m if you don't want to include the two loan + obligation deals.
That's not including Conte and his ~20m cost (including staff) leaving, which for some fucked up reason we have to end up paying half of, but still. That's ~40m off our books thus far.

We will have following the next season the following:
- Lukaku ~13m gross
- Eriksen ~11m gross
- Sanchez ~10m gross
- Perisic ~10m gross
- Vidal ~9m gross
- Nainggolan ~9m gross
- Hakimi ~8m gross
- De Vrij ~7m gross
- Brozovic ~6m gross
- Skriniar ~5m gross
- Joao Mario ~5m gross
- Vecino ~4.5m gross
- Barella ~4.5m gross
- Martinez ~4.5m gross
- Sensi ~3m gross
- Pinamonti ~3m gross
- Darmian ~2.5m gross
- Bastoni ~2.5m gross
- Gagliardini ~2.5m gross
- Lazaro ~2.5m gross
- Dalbert ~2.5m gross
- Radu ~2m gross

Ranocchia is costing ~3m gross, I guess he'll be staying with a pay cut, but let's assume it's going to be the same.

I'll add something like 6m (gross) for salaries of Primavera and loanees. Most of these kids do not make more than 300k anyway, but someone like Dimarco does.

That gives us a figure slightly less than 140m euros from the remaining players. Plus 40m on top of that. For the sake of "worst case scenario", I'll assume that what is being said for 20% cuts is true and I'll use the figures of the remaining players for that and not the original sum from last season as we've already cut over 20% with the 40m difference and we're still including Radja, Mario, Lazaro and Dalbert on the books.


We all understand that the problem is with cash and not the FFP/accounting shit. This means, we can afford to take some capital losses here and there. We've already done that with Miranda for example, when we cleared the Settlement Agreement.

From this figure that's a little shy of 140m, the 20% cut means that we need to get rid of a little less than 30m.
Now, if we only offload Perisic, Nainggolan and one of Vidal or Sanchez, we've hit this mark. But since 3/4 of these guys are still part of the team, let's go another way.

Out:
Nainggolan 9m
Mario 5m
Lazaro 2.5m
Dalbert 2.5m

That's 19m in costs for the next year. Mario and Radja are expiring next season. Now Dalbert and Lazaro have contracts until 2023, but their salary isn't too high. We can manage to perpetuate the loans to reduce salary costs or we could name a price and cover part of the salary for 2 years. Gives us cash and also reduces our wage bill.

Now, obviously if we need money, we're not getting 70m from these guys. At best, we can get 5m for Radja from Cagliari, maybe 7m for Mario which is his book value and maybe we can get something short of 10m for Lazaro from Germany and for Dalbert I doubt we can get more than 2m. That's ~30m but it's a best case scenario. So let's assume we can get ~15m from sales here is possible.

Now, looking at the players we have, the ones that are "attractive" to offload from the management's perspective obviously cannot be determined just by this alone, as we have to consider book value etc. But other than Lukaku, no one else has a high book value so the argument becomes redundant.

The players there are actually possible to sell are:
- Romelu Lukaku
- Christian Eriksen
- Marcelo Brozovic
- Stefan De Vrij
- Nicolo Barella
- Alessandro Bastoni
- Milan Skriniar
- Achraf Hakimi
- Lautaro Martinez
- Matias Vecino
- Stefano Sensi
- Roberto Gagliardini
- Ivan Perisic

Now, from these, obviously the amount each can bring differs, the cost on Inter to offload them may vary, the book value may not be met for some.

But assuming that for example we sell:
Lukaku (80m?)
Perisic (5m?)
Brozovic (40m?) [alternatively, De Vrij, 50m?]
Vecino (10m?) [alternatively, Gagliardini, 10m?]

That gives us 135m. Plus the 15m from the 4 unwanted guys, that's 150m incoming. This also brings the salaries from 140m to ~88m and automatically, within 12 months, Suning has halved the annual core operation costs, which is that of having a team.

This leaves us with at most 70m to play with in the market, but it's not as relevant as cash deals are rare anyway, but it will allow us to have some incoming transfers that will total to 50-70m spent and it will allow us to add a little over 25m in salaries, including that of the new coach, which will be the tricky part.

Assuming that we manage to bring in Dimarco for a small extra fee (like 4m on top of what we receive) and a salary of 2m, whatever system we opt for, this is not really that bad. You can argue that losing Lukaku would be terrible, but I feel that Brozo or De Vrij's loss would be worse. It will all depend on what the tactical setup will be like as well.

After Dimarco, we'd be looking for a new striker, a new MC (if we stick with 3-5-2, no need to be starter), a backup striker, we could still use guys like Esposito, Mulattieri, Pirola and so on to fill roster spots.

Belotti (30m cash and 9m gross salary?)
Giroud (no cash and something like 5.5m gross salary)
Dimarco (5m cash and 3.5m gross salary)
Locatelli (30m cash and 4m gross salary)

Obviously for Belotti and Locatelli that's not the total sum of the transfer, but we all know how you can inflate those without actually having to come up with money.

That's 22m gross salary added and 65m spent on transfers. Add 6m gross to the new coach, new deals for Lautaro and Bastoni, adding something like another 8m gross and voilà!
We have 85m net received and a salary structure that comes up to ~125m.


And this is actually one of the relatively bad scenarios, but obviously not the worst case. It's a rather realistic one and I haven't even discussed about cutting off the likes of Vidal, Sanchez and Eriksen who earn the most.



We have money problems, yeah, so does almost every other club but 2-3 in the world (Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd pretty much). We'll get by, as long as we don't shoot ourselves in the foot, which must be said we're pretty good at.
 

Strale

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jan 13, 2020
Messages
1,307
Likes
954
Favorite Player
Eyjafjallajökul
Forum Supporter
Football Manager escapism it is then.
 

dejavu

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Feb 26, 2011
Messages
1,397
Likes
254
Favorite Player
JZ4, I9, MS37
10 years of FIF
I have never seen a "top club" with the kind of calamitous leadership Inter has. Whether it be Morrati or Thohir or Zhang.

We win the students but instead of consolidating and trying to improve instead we are having to sell top players. You would've thought we learned our lesson from what happened in 2010. Sadly no and now our future is up in the air once again. :palm:
 

Black Knight

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jul 11, 2014
Messages
3,494
Likes
2,021
Favorite Player
#3, #4
Forum Supporter
I have never seen a "top club" with the kind of calamitous leadership Inter has. Whether it be Morrati or Thohir or Zhang.

Inter were not a top club during Thohir's era.
 

IM21

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 9, 2015
Messages
13,036
Likes
26,259
Curva nord was nice today. Cant wait to see how they are tomorrow.
 

andrei

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Nov 2, 2011
Messages
1,954
Likes
851
Favorite Player
Ronaldo
10 years of FIF
I have never seen a "top club" with the kind of calamitous leadership Inter has. Whether it be Morrati or Thohir or Zhang.

We win the students but instead of consolidating and trying to improve instead we are having to sell top players. You would've thought we learned our lesson from what happened in 2010. Sadly no and now our future is up in the air once again. :palm:

Or we want to make these moves now, not to repeat what happened in 2010.
 

CafeCordoba

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 7, 2004
Messages
35,471
Likes
14,868
Favorite Player
Toro, Barella
10 years of FIF
Zhangs really fucked up EVERYTHING this season.

It all built up from the possible sale, then the Super league which was suppose to save everything. Then it took WAY too long to settle the loan to cover the running costs or this and next season. Timing is fucking everything when running a football club. These Chinese FUCKS don't understand any of that. They are running this club just like any business. They have no fucking idea how to run a football club. Timing is important, it's crucial in every moves.

They fucked this up so badly I can't even understand. We are no here, hands in our dicks, without our Scudetto-coach while our biggest rival took the only option we had in the case our coach leaves. Well the timing plays the important role here. Had this loan thing happened even month earlier, we might be talking about a different scenario. They might have been able to settle Allegri thing way ahead. Allegri ended up picking Juve because they offered more, right away and Real hesitated. Had we been there month, two months earlier preparing for these things, we could be looking at Allegri as our manager.

But Marotta and co couldn't do shit, they couldn't prepare for free agent shenanigans, they couldn't prepare for Conte leaving. They were in the dark because this asshats from China don't have a clue.

Fuck that family.
 

.h.

Part time Lazarus
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jun 8, 2005
Messages
29,313
Likes
7,404
Favorite Player
Inter1-0Wanda
Old username
browha
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
Lets not let our incredibly selfish players completely off the hook tho.
 

brakbrak

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Aug 30, 2011
Messages
6,710
Likes
6,920
Favorite Player
Christian Vieri
10 years of FIF
Lets not let our incredibly selfish players completely off the hook tho.

Fuck them for wanting to get paid as agreed in their contracts.
 

PHM1605

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Feb 25, 2013
Messages
5,210
Likes
2,734
10 years of FIF
Zhangs really fucked up EVERYTHING this season.

It all built up from the possible sale, then the Super league which was suppose to save everything. Then it took WAY too long to settle the loan to cover the running costs or this and next season. Timing is fucking everything when running a football club. These Chinese FUCKS don't understand any of that. They are running this club just like any business. They have no fucking idea how to run a football club. Timing is important, it's crucial in every moves.

They fucked this up so badly I can't even understand. We are no here, hands in our dicks, without our Scudetto-coach while our biggest rival took the only option we had in the case our coach leaves. Well the timing plays the important role here. Had this loan thing happened even month earlier, we might be talking about a different scenario. They might have been able to settle Allegri thing way ahead. Allegri ended up picking Juve because they offered more, right away and Real hesitated. Had we been there month, two months earlier preparing for these things, we could be looking at Allegri as our manager.

But Marotta and co couldn't do shit, they couldn't prepare for free agent shenanigans, they couldn't prepare for Conte leaving. They were in the dark because this asshats from China don't have a clue.

Fuck that family.
Can't thank this post twice. We have locked the Scudetto MONTHS ago. Why tf didn't they organize the meeting with Conte, to clarify his future intention, at that time? Why did we postpone to the fucking end of May, until Allegri has had 10000 other offers on his table?

Not like the distraction would have caused any damage. Had we known Conte would leave earlier, Allegri had no other choice but accept us, even with 7m net.

But no, let's not plan ahead, coz that stupid Zhang was too busy in China, handling loaning documentations and stuffs. He did not care about Conte's aftermath, not care about the next coach and Inter future. Those shall not be his mess anymore, but Oaktree's. Wait until now.. we are TOO LATE for everything. We are left with no head coach and not a single decent choice left on the market. Allegri, Mourinho, even freaking De Zerbi... other teams have planned WAY ahead.

It is too late to lock the stable when the horse is stolen :palm:
 
Top