Inter - Vfl Wolfsburg (19 Mar 15) [1-2]

[bandiera]

For Gods sake, why does everyone look with such negative eyes.
Wolfsburg are the on form team in Europe.
Favorites to win the competition.
Yes we didn't make the most of our chances.
Yes our keeper cost us 2 goals maybe a case for 3, Handa would have saved 3.
We still would have gone out, there a better team but only just.
Inter are on the up, slowly mind, but up.
I urge all fans to get behind the team we will make Europe.

... and this is the opposite end of the spectrum.

 

[Hugo Boss]

I'm gonna post this in Wolfsburg, Rano and JJ thread, so sorry for a triple post.

You see Juan jogging looking at Rano and De Bryune and left Caligiuri unoticed.
And you see the space between Rano and Juan? man, how can a central defender positioned like that, he should know that de bryune can easily cross it with no defender. Fuck it.
This is how bad JJ is.
He's beast, aggresive, emotional, passionate, but his lack of tactical and positioning make him like an amateur defender.
An amateur central defender.

 

[Shaun]

I disagree, I've talked to Fiorentina fans who say Gonzalo still fucks up on a regular basis. Basanta may be decent, but he's no better than Andreolli.

Lazio's bench players? Checked transfermarkt and you're right. Anyways Basta, Mauricio, Cataldi, Onazi, and Mauri aren't exactly better. Nor is Radu or Klose. Handanovic, D'Ambrosio, Ranocchia, Andreolli, Vidic, Kovacic, Hernanes, Shaqiri, Icardi, Palacio would still walk in.

Europa League is definitely a disadvantage. My point is that our players are not "shit" and that our squad isn't as low on quality as everyone likes to make it out to be. And juggling Europa League and the league becomes more of an issue with depth than quality. Fiorentina is a testament to that, as you yourself have pointed out. Besides, next season we probably won't even have Europe.

I watch Fiorentina almost as much as I watch us. Gonzalo is similar to Rano. Typically good with moments of madness. I'm not sure how you can call Andreolli better than Basanta or vice versa. What I do know is that Fiorentina has stood up to a decent EPL team in Spurs with players like Basanta and Gonzalo and looked very sound defensively. While we struggled to stop a shitty Celtic side.

And how does both Frog and Andreolli walk into Lazio when De Vrij is THE BEST CB in the league? Why would Maurico be dropped for them either since Lazio has had one the best defense in the league since he arrived in January? And fucking Andreolli? I think the guy is a decent defender, but to say that he simply walks into Lazio's side based on him sitting on our bench for the majority of the season? How does Icardi, Shaqiri and Palacio walk into Lazio when they have two of the best wingers in the league in Candreva and Anderson? Icardi would start over Klose. Biglia has been one of the most consistent players in the league this season and probably wouldn't be dropped for Kova. Cataldi is probably a future Lazio captain. He is their Kovacic. As for Radu and Basta - they're solid. All our fullbacks have been up and down all season. To say that ours are automatically better than theirs is just dumb.

Also, what Lazio has that we don't? Balance

Their midfield of Parolo - Biglia - Caltadi all know how to attack and defend. Their fullbacks don't get caught out of position constantly.

 

[bandiera]

I watch Fiorentina almost as much as I watch us. Gonzalo is similar to Rano. Typically good with moments of madness. I'm not sure how you can call Andreolli better than Basanta or vice versa. What I do know is that Fiorentina has stood up to a decent EPL team in Spurs with players like Basanta and Gonzalo and looked very sound defensively. While we struggled to stop a shitty Celtic side.

And how does both Frog and Andreolli walk into Lazio when De Vrij is THE BEST CB in the league? Why would Maurico be dropped for them either since Lazio has had one the best defense in the league since he arrived in January? And fucking Andreolli? I think the guy is a decent defender, but to say that he simply walks into Lazio's side based on him sitting on our bench for the majority of the season? How does Icardi, Shaqiri and Palacio walk into Lazio when they have two of the best wingers in the league in Candreva and Anderson? Icardi would start over Klose. Biglia has been one of the most consistent players in the league this season and probably wouldn't be dropped for Kova. Cataldi is probably a future Lazio captain. He is their Kovacic. As for Radu and Basta - they're solid. All our fullbacks have been up and down all season. To say that ours are automatically better than theirs is just dumb.

Fiorentina and Lazio are two massively overperforming sides while we are underperforming. It's easy to say "they won vs tottenham, we barely beat celtic, therefore they are better". This FIorentina side you speak of also has the inconsistent/injury prone Mati Fernandez, Aquilani, old ass Pizarro, mediocre krstic (dunno his name), inconsistent ilicic, fucking tomovic, badelj , Babacar who was in Serie B last year and as scored 7 goals in all comps as a striker, and old ass Joaquin and Gilardino. Imagine any of those players at Inter. Christ, that would be an absolute fuckfest.

As you have said, their successes come down to their depth, not their quality, so its not relevant when we probably arent going to have europe next season. Gonzalo has fucked up a lot this season. That's what I've heard. And Andreolli has been rock solid whenever he has played.

When I brought up which Inter players would walk into Lazio, I wasn't saying every single one of those players would walk into Lazio together. I was referring to each player individually. Cataldi was playing in Serie B last season. Come on, he's a class below Kovacic. Mauricio? Basta? Marchetti? These are mediocre players. And Palacio or Shaqiri would bench Mauri without any doubt.

 

[Philipe]

... and this is the opposite end of the spectrum.

The opposite end oh jeeez, is there any real fans in here?
This would be the opposite end.
The ref robbed us
That was a penalty
It was offside
Carrizo had his gloves on wrong
We were better team and just unlucky

Just be quiet I'm sick of negativity it spills from fans to the team.
Booing doesn't make me want to play better, it make me feel shit.
Remeber that and chew it over.

 

[bandiera]

The opposite end oh jeeez, is there any real fans in here?
This would be the opposite end.
The ref robbed us
That was a penalty
It was offside
Carrizo had his gloves on wrong
We were better team and just unlucky

Just be quiet I'm sick of negativity it spills from fans to the team.
Booing doesn't make me want to play better, it make me feel shit.
Remeber that and chew it over.

Who said anything about booing? But who should say anything about brainlessly accepting defeat and saying we will make Europe and excuse the shit we've been served for years as Inter fans? Excusing the fact the players showed no heart when it mattered most vs Wolfsburg?

Being a fan doesn't mean calling shit gold through rose tinted glasses.

 

[Philipe]

Who said anything about booing? But who should say anything about brainlessly accepting defeat and saying we will make Europe and excuse the shit we've been served for years as Inter fans? Or that the players showed no heart vs Wolfsburg? To me that deserves criticism.

Being a fan doesn't mean calling shit gold through rose tinted glasses.

Huge Sigh, another Juve fan talking shit.
If you don't like what on change the station.
Being a fan means you support the team regardless, or are you a good times fan that started supporting in 2009/10 lol
Things go up and obviously down, but times will be good again soon.
I hate watching Inter at the moment, but I clap them on and off regardless.
Sometimes I clap with a frown and sometimes a smile my support is 100%.
Why bitch about things I cant change.
We will finish in a top 5 spot and when we do I will of course gloat.
We will play some good football in the remaining fixtures.
We will be disappointing in some, that's Inter.
That's INTER. Other teams to support if people cant handle that.
Mad Inter...love or loathe.

 

[bandiera]

Also, what Lazio has that we don't? Balance

Their midfield of Parolo - Biglia - Caltadi all know how to attack and defend. Their fullbacks don't get caught out of position constantly.

Im not saying we are a better team than Lazio. All Im saying is that most our players are not as bad as people like to make them out to be, and many of them would walk into teams across the top of the table. We're underperforming while teams like Fiorentina and Lazio are definitely overperforming.

Right now we're level with Genoa. The team that had Matri as their striker and bought their best attacking player last June for 200k. The team that has Antonini, Gamberini, and Nico Burdisso in their defense. Don't forget Gasperini as their manager. Anyone can see that's bullshit.

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Huge Sigh, another Juve fan talking shit.
If you don't like what on change the station.
Being a fan means you support the team regardless, or are you a good times fan that started supporting in 2009/10 lol
Things go up and obviously down, but times will be good again soon.
I hate watching Inter at the moment, but I clap them on and off regardless.
Sometimes I clap with a frown and sometimes a smile my support is 100%.
Why bitch about things I cant change.
We will finish in a top 5 spot and when we do I will of course gloat.
We will play some good football in the remaining fixtures.
We will be disappointing in some, that's Inter.
That's INTER. Other teams to support if people cant handle that.
Mad Inter...love or loathe.

Who said anything about not supporting the team? When did anyone say they feel like not supporting Inter? And who the fuck are you calling a Juventino?

You said if you criticize you aren't a fan. Please, explain. The floor is yours.

 

[Shaun]

Fiorentina and Lazio are two massively overperforming sides while we are underperforming. It's easy to say "they won vs tottenham, we barely beat celtic, therefore they are better". Gonzalo has fucked up a lot this season. That's what I've heard. And Andreolli has been rock solid whenever he has played.

When I brought up which Inter players would walk into Lazio, I wasn't saying every single one of those players would walk into Lazio together. I was referring to each player individually. Cataldi was playing next to Crisetig who was Crotone's best midfielder by all accoutns in Serie B last season. Would Crisetig start in Inter though? Probably not. Mauricio? Basta? Marchetti? These are mediocre players. And Palacio or Shaqiri would bench Mauri without any doubt.

Your logic is all over the place. Mauricio has arrived from Sporting and has played well and basically started every game, but because Andreolli has been solid this season during his sporadic appearances he's better? Crisetig played better in Serie B than a 19 year old Cataldi so Cataldi cannot be that good? I could say that Andreolli was only an average defender at Chievo. Easily an inferior player to the likes of Radu. Mauri plays because both Candreva and Anderson are better on the right, and because he works hard. However, Anderson also plays on the left too. Marchetti is a confidence player. In form he's one of the best goalkeepers in Italy, but he's bloody awful when he loses confidence. Basta mediocre? a neutral would say the same thing about our FBs if they watched us play.

Do I think Hernanes is a better player than Parolo or Cataldi? Yes, but do I think he would walk into a Lazio side that is playing with wingers and needs balanced midfielders? 50/50. Might they try to find a way to find a place for him? Sure, and that is the problem with this method. What I think a combined side would look like:

Handanovic
D'Ambrosio - De Vrij - who knows they're all about the same - Radu
Parolo - Biglia
Candreva- Anderson - Shaqiri
Icardi​

Fiorentina overperforming? Fiorentina are at this level every season though. How can one deny that this is their level?


And let it be known that I do not think Lazio are better on paper than us. I'm just saying they're better than you're saying.

 

[A.l.i]

For Gods sake, why does everyone look with such negative eyes.
Wolfsburg are the on form team in Europe.
Favorites to win the competition.
Yes we didn't make the most of our chances.
Yes our keeper cost us 2 goals maybe a case for 3, Handa would have saved 3.
We still would have gone out, there a better team but only just.
Inter are on the up, slowly mind, but up.
I urge all fans to get behind the team we will make Europe.

We had troubled this Wolfsburg team for 45 mins in Germany. Is this Wolfsburg team better than the current in form Fiorentina, Napoli?

 

[Inter2010]

let's get things clear... we all support our team, but when we play shit like agains't wolfsburg, cesena, and others we should be able to criticize them, that's what true supporters do with passion, I notice some new dudes on here who aren't real supporters. I've supported this team since i was 12 yrs old so fuck it... we expect better results from a big club like our Inter

 

[German_Interista]

The huge advantage of the two matches against Wolfsburg for me was that I finally could watch Inter games in good quality again. Yesterday it was so obvious that Juan Jesus is the main weak spot in our defence. Ranocchia was really good yesterday whereas JJ often created holes by pressing forward. The other obvious thing was Hugo and I'm looking forward to see him go after this season. We need a good RB and I don't know if D'Ambrosio is good enough to be our starting RB.

Next year will be number zero, for the fifth time in a row

 

[PHM1605]

I'm gonna post this in Wolfsburg, Rano and JJ thread, so sorry for a triple post.

You see Juan jogging looking at Rano and De Bryune and left Caligiuri unoticed.
And you see the space between Rano and Juan? man, how can a central defender positioned like that, he should know that de bryune can easily cross it with no defender. Fuck it.
This is how bad JJ is.
He's beast, aggresive, emotional, passionate, but his lack of tactical and positioning make him like an amateur defender.
An amateur central defender.

Hi everyone, here is my first post.
In this foto, actually one more Wolfsburg player was after Juan. So he had to mark 2 players at the same time. If he runs to mark Caligiuri, the goal would still comes.
The biggest mistake was obviously from Hugo, and probably Medel. 1 more man should help Juan in this case.

 

[Philipe]

Im not saying we are a better team than Lazio. All Im saying is that most our players are not as bad as people like to make them out to be, and many of them would walk into teams across the top of the table. We're underperforming while teams like Fiorentina and Lazio are definitely overperforming.

Right now we're level with Genoa. The team that had Matri as their striker and bought their best attacking player last June for 200k. The team that has Antonini, Gamberini, and Nico Burdisso in their defense. Don't forget Gasperini as their manager. Anyone can see that's bullshit.

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Who said anything about not supporting the team? When did anyone say they feel like not supporting Inter? And who the fuck are you calling a Juventino?

You said if you criticize you aren't a fan. Please, explain. The floor is yours.

Thanks so if the floor is mine, I will just leave you on it were you belong face down hahaa.
Be quiet you juventino post your poisen on the juve forums.

 

[surripere]

I actually think we played rather well overall, considering the circumstances. We created shitloads of chances, another day they go in, plus their GK was excellent, he pulled off at least two wonder saves. There is no shame in losing to Wolfsburg, they are good side, it's not like they are Cesena or something. That Gustavo guy stood out, he looks a quality player.

 

[Hugo Boss]

Hi everyone, here is my first post.
In this foto, actually one more Wolfsburg player was after Juan. So he had to mark 2 players at the same time. If he runs to mark Caligiuri, the goal would still comes.
The biggest mistake was obviously from Hugo, and probably Medel. 1 more man should help Juan in this case.

Hi mate, welcome to the masochist club.
First of all, the problem is not how many players Juan had to mark, but how ignorance he is. You see how far he was from rano, instead of running covering the area rano left, he jogs without even paying attention to his surrounding, that sucks.
And if he marked Caligiuri the goal wouldn't happen because de bruyne didn't see who he passed to.
And yes Hugo also shit in this one.

 

[Ed.]

I'm gonna post this in Wolfsburg, Rano and JJ thread, so sorry for a triple post.

You see Juan jogging looking at Rano and De Bryune and left Caligiuri unoticed.
And you see the space between Rano and Juan? man, how can a central defender positioned like that, he should know that de bryune can easily cross it with no defender. Fuck it.
This is how bad JJ is.
He's beast, aggresive, emotional, passionate, but his lack of tactical and positioning make him like an amateur defender.
An amateur central defender.

I disagree. It is impossible for JJ to do both zonal covering with man marking at the same time. Hugo saw Rano was covering him. Hugo should have covered Rano ass and anticipated the cross before reaching cagliuri. From the move, we can see once de bruyne crossed, JJ sprinted to cover cagliuri, but where was Hugo? Oh, he was jerking off somewhere else. I blame it more on Hugo inability to cover Rano.With such experiences for being full back and central back, Hugo held more responsibility.

 

[Rimpel]

:trolldad:

 

[Mino]

Rimpel , i think you're posting on the wrong forum man
this is definitely not helping my nerves

 

[surripere]

That goal is on JJ, watch it in real time, plus he's also all at sea for the second too. I don't blame Grampanaro for being an old, slow cunt, I blame Mancini for starting him.