Inter - Torino (26 Aug 18) [2-2]

[Balor]

I missed the game and only seen the highlights now. The forward line looked impressive for the first goal and De Vrij looks like he's going to be a hitman from set pieces for us.

There was nothing to go by in the highlights for how the midfield was but ADRossi's analysis above tells all.

Handanovic also looked worryingly bad for the two goals. In spite of the second half collapse of the team, any other day we still would've won this game 2-0 but our top keeper just wasn't on display today.

 

[Universe]

The complete lack of basic tactical awareness being demonstrated by some of you is incredible. We didn't "lose focus", we spent 45 minutes pressing in the first half and completely ran out of gas. Mazzarri at half time had Torino start pressing high up the pitch, and it was over. Just like against Napoli and the first 45 minutes against Roma last year, the minute teams begin to press us we lose all semblance of a shape and begin playing back-pass roulette with our CBs. Why? Because our useless midfield is non-existent, doesn't drop deep enough to help us retain possession, and in the odd instances when they do they don't have the technical ability necessary to beat their marker.

Spare me the "We played amazing in the first half" narrative too. This team can't score unless they're overloading crosses into the box or taking set pieces.

Spalletti himself said "the only way to avoid fatigue is to run less, the only way to run less is to keep possession". And yet he allowed that disaster to happen.

Despite having 3 CB's (and that was what D'Ambrosio was playing as), there was no notable advantage in retaining the ball or building from deep. All we did was just frantically backpedal the ball back to Handanovic who would boot it 50m upfield to the Torino players. For 72 minutes we played with two fucking RB's just meters away from each other. At any point in the game, (preferably from the starting lineup,) Spalletti could have sacrificed either one of them (cos they were both mediocre) and introduced another midfielder to help us keep the ball and save our energy. For all I give a shit he could have introduced or started one of Emmers or Joao Mario or Valero. I don't care who, but just don't play a 2 man midfield of Brozovic / Vecino. I don't see how someone who wants to keep the ball just neglects his midfield like that. It just flat out blows my mind and any logic.

Two games in a row we've absolutely proven that we cannot play a flat 4 man midfield with 2 wide midfielders and 2 holding midfielders - at least not with these particular players. How many more points are we going to needlessly sacrifice for more experiment time?

 

[Asperiini1]

Spalletti himself said "the only way to avoid fatigue is to run less, the only way to run less is to keep possession". And yet he allowed that disaster to happen.

Despite having 3 CB's (and that was what D'Ambrosio was playing as), there was no notable advantage in retaining the ball or building from deep. All we did was just frantically backpedal the ball back to Handanovic who would boot it 50m upfield to the Torino players. For 72 minutes we played with two fucking RB's just meters away from each other. At any point in the game, (preferably from the starting lineup,) Spalletti could have sacrificed either one of them (cos they were both mediocre) and introduced another midfielder to help us keep the ball and save our energy. For all I give a shit he could have introduced or started one of Emmers or Joao Mario or Valero. I don't care who, but just don't play a 2 man midfield of Brozovic / Vecino. I don't see how someone who wants to keep the ball just neglects his midfield like that. It just flat out blows my mind and any logic.

Two games in a row we've absolutely proven that we cannot play a flat 4 man midfield with 2 wide midfielders and 2 holding midfielders - at least not with these particular players. How many more points are we going to needlessly sacrifice for more experiment time?

I agree with this, i am amazed how people cannot see tactically how we fail these games. First half we could even see that 3-4-3 didnt work in the flanks. Politano and Vjralsalko (fuck his name) was too close to each others and also Dumbo were too close too. If they play like that politano needs to play more in the advanced trequartista or inside forward behind icardi and give space to Vrjalsalko to roam in the side.

Also in the second half we just were outrunned and outplayed in the middlefield. Mazzari controlled the ball and pace of the ball and also used their wingers to pressure more our sides. When our sides couldn't pass the ball to forwards they lost the control. Brozo and Vecino had no one to pass the ball because there were outnumbered in the middlefield. They could only pass to Handa , or 3 CB:s pass to Handa and long ball to Perisic and Icardi.

Fast and easily: Mazzari fucked us in the ass tactically in the second half.

About the subs, i think Spaletti waited too long change Lautaro in. Also we don't have any good backup in the middlefield to open that play up (beside Nainngolan, who can make the difference).

As i have said in the preseason we really need to think more about playing 2 striker version of 3-5-2 or 4-2-2-2 with wingers because again Icardi is too alone in the box.

 

[Joker]

Fuck Mazzari

 

[Dogen]

Back to the 2015/2016 season to draw a curious comparison with Sarri's first year in Naples (unfairly ignoring all the differences):

Sassuolo-Napoli 2-1
Napoli-Sampdoria 2-2 (the Azzurri were leading 2-0 at half time)
Empoli-Napoli 2-2

Napoli went on to finish in 2nd place.
It's August, time to forget all the issues and look at the bright side: let's draw against Bologna.

Hype for the CL draw.

 

[Devious]

 

[Besnik]

Happy monday

 

[Wobblz]

1 point out of 6. What a joke.

Does anyone know how far back til we had an equally bad start?

Junkie has a thread comparing different seasons' matchdays by points we have - Statisics by Season (04/05 - Current)

We haven't had a worse start in the 21st century after the first two games, except for 2016/17 under FDB

 

[ForzaNerazzurro]

Shhhh, it's all going to be ok

 

[Native]

Well in many of the past 8 seasons we started out great, sometimes even topping the table and then continued to destroy everything after the winter break. I'll gladly take it if it's the other way around this time.

 

[Bergpavian]

I can't say I'm surprised by this result but I was surprised by people rating our mercato so highly while I was giving it only 4/10.

Maybe I'm blind but when I look at our mercato, this is what I see:

De Vrij: good player but since we only play with 4 at the back, most probably we are going to start Miranda and Skriniar so pratically De Vrij strengthens our bench but not the starting 11.
Nainngolan: not what he used to be
Politano: mediocre
Keita: a hothead and a ballhug
Vrsaljko: a younger DDA

On the other hand we losttwo first team players in Rafinha and Cancelo. They had a huge impact and I don't see the new signings collectively having a similar impact which means we basically weakend our starting 11.

Buy shit players and expect them to magically become worldclass but when they don't and you don't get the result you wanted. Fire the coach, rinse and repeat.

I don't rate our mercato so bad. Irequis has summarized it better imo. But our #1 problem was and is our midfield and I can't understand why we didn't try everything to keep/to get Rafinha. Instead we "strengthened" our midfield with a 30yo with doubtful working morale and wasted our time with dreaming of a nearly 33yo.

I can't see why our first half time should have been good. Most of the time our build up game was a catastrophe. I was shocked to see that some of our players had no idea where to run, where to position ... It was a wonder that they didn't fall over each other like in a bad comedy about kids playing "soccer". We somehow pulled out a miracle and lead 2:0 - but the 1:0 should have never happend (to be fair: also not the 2:1). Well, at least we run.

A collapse like in the second half is inexcusable. And so where our substitutions.

 

[Il Drago]

1 point out of 6. What a joke.

Does anyone know how far back til we had an equally bad start?

Inter, Spalletti like De Boer

Inter didn’t expect to have such a bad start to the season with only one point in the first two games. Spalletti has now the same record as Franck de Boer who did only managed one point in the first two games of 2016. Only Luigi Radice has a worse record as the Italian manager begun the 1983-84 campaign with two defeats in a row.

 

[.h.]

Well in many of the past 8 seasons we started out great, sometimes even topping the table and then continued to destroy everything after the winter break. I'll gladly take it if it's the other way around this time.

I'm really looking forward to getting out of our start of season slump just to hit the mid season slump

 

[Nyall]

Our pathetic midfield is undoing everything we did in the transfer market this summer.. *shocking*

 

[.h.]

We should have taken Vidal tbh. It's clear a midfield, ignoring nainggolan where the world's most inconsistent player in brozovic is our best player is and always will be a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Native]

Modric is still coming though, no worries.

 

[Il Drago]

Even though i always thought Spalletti sees Nainggolan as an AM perhaps he has changed his mind about it and he intends to use him next to Brozovic. There must be a reasonable explanation for why Spalletti suddenly didn't insist on getting another midfielder while he had set it as a priority at the start of the mercato..

 

[M.Adnan]

We should have taken Vidal tbh.

I'm assuming that Spalletti has pulled the plug on Vidal because he thought that stacking up more wingers will make up for lack of creativity. Surely Vidal isn't the creative midfielder we need but atleast he would've taken so much work off Nainggolan and Brozovic, and give the latter more freedom.

The only genius I can think of who came up with this unique 'stacking up forwards to make up for the midfield's mediocricity' masterpiece was Mancini. Now this might work when you stack up the Recoba's and Adriano's since their left foot can win you games in two minutes, but not with Keita and Politano.

 

[JJM]

Are some of you new to Inter games?!
I fully expected this start, because we are practically a different squad this season again, improved but still finding our way
The team chemistry is still being forged.
And Sass away is our cancer wound as are GAMES against Toro as we will struggle against Bologna as we always do. This is the hardest start we ever had because Rube felt a bit threatened by our mercato so naturally we got this hard draw.playing Roma and Rube would have been easier honestly
We are playing against the system and ourselves as well...
If you can't deal with our struggle... Well interismo is a continuous suffering all the time, not for everybody.
Losing head and wanting heads to roll is retarded

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Maybe SPAL will finish 3rd...

 

[Linege]

And Sass away is our cancer wound as are GAMES against Toro as we will struggle against Bologna as we always do.

the hardest start to the season

Losing head and wanting heads to roll is retarded

you need a bucket or the head will roll