Inter - Roma (2 Sep 12)

[NeonBlade]

I totally agree with you, it's 4-2-3-1 which make us worse. We lost the midfield and couldn't get the ball back.

However, with the only attack option, Coutinho, on the bench at that time, would you prefer to sub Milito out and change it to 4-3-2-1 while we are down by one goal or change it to 4-2-3-1 to have more forward on the pitch?

Now, we know the result and found out that 4-2-3-1 is one of the reason we lost to Roma, but can we predict the outcome?
If we still lost the the match by 1-2 with Palacio and coutinho upfront, will someone blame Strama because there is not enough Goal scoring option on the pitch?

We were losing before we switched the formation. What exactly are you saying?

 

[king_elnino]

It's ok to angry, Disappointed.
But, you know you will make a bad judgement with that situation.


Calm down people, we only gap 3 points with leader.
We know strama capibility when he take inter from ranieri.
He still not find the winning squad,
The positive i like was his not afraid to make radical change in big games.

 

[Bluenine]

We have a new, young team and a inexperienced, young coach. Lets show patience, give them time to develop along their learning curve.

This is "Year Zero". Its good to dream about the scudetto every season, but lets also be real - we are at least 2 years behind Juventus.

 

[Sassuolu]

Ehh well it was obvious that the team is going to need time to gel, the movement in attack isn't any good we're just played long balls hoping Roma's defense would fuck up. I think it was a mistake to start Cassano since he doesn't give us the same speed Palacio gives us, but that being said the reason we lost is due to those dreadful mistakes in defense. In the first goal Gargano just let Florenzi walts into the box, in the second goal we lost possession cheaply and in the third Silvestre and Castellazzi just fucked up. Silvestre was utterly dreadful I can't believe he starts over the likes of Samuel but I won't condemn him just yet as a player it's still early days.

 

[HolyNoob]

Hell, ok we lose. But Mou lost some games also, and he learned from it. I hope Stramaccioni can do the same.

Lesson learned:
1. Our tactic: playing long ball was a bad decision. Many times we won the ball back and then wasted it by playing it long.
2. Cassano: he was terrible last night. Better replace him with Coutinho in the 2nd half, and let Palacio in for Milito instead
3. Winger: we definitely and desperately need a winger. Really miss Etoo. We should throw in 15 mils to snap Ramirez in the summer.
4. Silvestre: he must concentrate more.
5. Coutinho: I want to see him more in the starting lineups, playing along Sneijder, with Guaro Gargano and Mudin behind.

 

[nurko]

Hell, ok we lose. But Mou lost some games also, and he learned from it. I hope Stramaccioni can do the same.

Lesson learned:
1. Our tactic: playing long ball was a bad decision. Many times we won the ball back and then wasted it by playing it long.

Playing long ball was the only way out most of the time, our defence was always pressed and midfield trio was covered by Roma midfielders. Now add to that that there were no wide players in the front line and you get the necessity to play long balls and Sneijder had to come very deep for the ball later on.

 

[DARi0]

Ok, I'm back after having a bad sleep. I'm still dissapointed the way we've lost, but hopefully Strama will learn from this lesson.

Okay, I am not even 1% annoyed by the loss as I am annoyed by the crying whining bitching bunch of fans in this thread currently!

+1. It feels like i'm writing to a bunch of immature kids here okerface: Please act rational.

Strama got outcoached by the coach that coached him. Simple as that. Roma have very pacy attackers that will cause trouble in Serie A and will probably be title contenders. They also play together for a while (unlike our many late signings) AND Totti + Osvaldo had an excellent evening.

I don't know what's wrong with Silvestre, but his positioning and marking skills are below-par ever since we've signed him.

Guarin seriously needs to limit the number of long shots he takes. His first touch also sucked.

Sneijder should take practice more seriously, especially those free kicks [can't remember the last time he has scored from a FK].

Gargano should start and finish every match.

As much as I love Cassano, I believe Palacio should start [currently on fire IMO], while we can use a fresh pacy Cassano after the 65th minute when the opposition players are getting tired.

As for drawing a conclusion: DON'T PANIC! Remember how many new players we have, they still need to know each other and get used to each other. It's only natural that there is room for improvement. They just need to play TOGETHER as a TEAM.

 

[rockball]

I liked the timing of the defeat. At least now with the international break, Strama will get some time to learn from the mistakes and Gargano-Pereira-Guarin could develop some understanding together since clearly these 3 would be sure starters most of the time.

One of our issues is the team is very skewed in its approach. On left flank, we have Nagatomo, Pereira, Sneijder and Cassano all trying to do their thing. This not only makes us predictable, but also gets cluttered on that flank. When I saw the lineup, my first thought was to have Zanetti and Nagatomo switch flanks, since Zanetti could provide defensive cover and Nagatomo is more comfortable on right side. But given Guarin's attacking tendencies, our right flank would be very susceptible to attacks.
For this reason, we should have Palacio starting over Cassano. Then we can have Palacio-Guarin linkup on one side and Sneijder-Pereira linkup on the other.

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On the other hand, while Roma was clearly the better side; we only lost due to individual mistakes.

 

[Bluenine]

For me, we lost yesterdays game in the midfield. Roma had a free pass to our final third everytime they had the ball. Strama made a mistake not starting Cambiasso, for inspite of Cuchu's poor form, we need him alongside Gargano to create that first line of defense. Till we hit our stride with all the new players, it is imperative that we start with at least 2 out of Cambiasso, Gargano and Mudingayi in every game.

That said, we are all aware of the learning curve this team (and coach) need, and should show patience this season. Its "year zero" afterall. There have been some positives already this season:

- Ranocchia, he is starting to look really classy for long periods
- Juan - he looked like a real talent last week.
- Guarin, last night aside, has added much needed intensity/urgency to our midfield.
- Gargano seems to have hit the road running
- Pereira, he had a great debut, our LB position is finally sorted.
- Cassano & Coutinho, we are finally covered in the "fantasista" area.

The ingredients are almost there. The recipe is more or less decided. We just need to have the patience to allow for a slow, long cooking cycle.

 

[Pravesh]

Too bad we lost but what could we have expected from this Inter and the coach. I just hope that this kind of results will not come that often. This is a new Inter and we have made quite big changes. As said by few here, I just hope that our coach-players will learn from their mistakes and by the end of the season, we will get some good results (in all Serie A, Coppa, EL). Lets hope we will win our next home again.

 

[_Ivan_]

For me, we lost yesterdays game in the midfield. Roma had a free pass to our final third everytime they had the ball. Strama made a mistake not starting Cambiasso, for inspite of Cuchu's poor form, we need him alongside Gargano to create that first line of defense. Till we hit our stride with all the new players, it is imperative that we start with at least 2 out of Cambiasso, Gargano and Mudingayi in every game.

That said, we are all aware of the learning curve this team (and coach) need, and should show patience this season. Its "year zero" afterall. There have been some positives already this season:

- Ranocchia, he is starting to look really classy for long periods
- Juan - he looked like a real talent last week.
- Guarin, last night aside, has added much needed intensity/urgency to our midfield.
- Gargano seems to have hit the road running
- Pereira, he had a great debut, our LB position is finally sorted.
- Cassano & Coutinho, we are finally covered in the "fantasista" area.

The ingredients are almost there. The recipe is more or less decided. We just need to have the patience to allow for a slow, long cooking cycle.

+1
that's some quality post dude.

 

[Wobblz]

how can you win when everybody knows what you will do on attack come on left or through middle so other team can stay compact and defend these two options. this team has one problem and that is zanetti you can call him hero legend or what ever but when he play in mid or rb we play with 10 man other teams know he is shit in attack and now he is shit in defense he hold 70% responsibility for 2 goals

:serious:

I read like TEN FUCKING COMMENTS WITH THE EXACT SAME CONTENT BUT WITH DIFFERENT WORDS about the left side, Zanetti on the right and shit in this thread alone. STFU.

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I too agree we need time. What did you expect, a brand new team [how much starters have we brought in? 6-7?] to play like a clockwork?! Roma has done what had to be done last year so they're one year ahead of us. I'm pissed off for losing by them but that's the harsh reality, they were just better blended, consistent and calm. We now have three games against lesser teams - Torino, [Rubin Kazan,] Chievo, Siena before the game with Fiorentina that would surely cause us trouble. Plenty of time for Strama to get his shit straight. If we don't win those three tho then I'll start panicing.

 

[HolyNoob]

:serious:

I read like TEN FUCKING COMMENTS WITH THE EXACT SAME CONTENT BUT WITH DIFFERENT WORDS about the left side, Zanetti on the right and shit in this thread alone. STFU.

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I too agree we need time. What did you expect, a brand new team [how much starters have we brought in? 6-7?] to play like a clockwork?! Roma has done what had to be done last year so they're one year ahead of us. I'm pissed off for losing by them but that's the harsh reality, they were just better blended, consistent and calm. We now have three games against lesser teams - Torino, [Rubin Kazan,] Chievo, Siena before the game with Fiorentina that would surely cause us trouble. Plenty of time for Strama to get his shit straight. If we don't win those three tho then I'll start panicing.

Agree. I don't panic, just sad. Losing Roma is still better than losing Novara or Siena, of course. And guess what, I prefer we have 1 lose then 1 win = 3 points rather than a serie of draw of JuBe last year.

Now move on to Torino Chievo and Siena.

 

[Devious]

So depressing indeed, but kinda expected it. Roma always do well in the Meazza, ALAWYS, and now we dont have the chemistry yet. we also lacks alot of experience, they looked more ready and understanding than us. I only see this as a natural result. no surprises.

We should learn our lessons from this and move on. The season has just begun. I remain faithful.

 

[vassago]

our back line is a problem... the only thing our back line is good now is to keep our opponents onside... we have to work on offside traps... and to clos down the middle... the CB's have to stay in line and not run out to chase opponents to the middle of the field and leave gaps at the back...
as much as you say Rano did well and Silvestre did worst all back 4 were terrible... letting in 3 goals and 2 of them counterattacks is terrible by any standards... lack of communication by the 2 CB's is a fault of them both... objectively said...
lot of work has to be done to patch up this mess... Strama has his hands full of work...

LOVE INTER IN BAD AN GOOD... no exclusion FORAZA INTER!!!

 

[Tanel]

I'm sorry, our back 4 was quite reasonable. Silvestre made slight errors (well, 3rd goal was big one, shouldn't let a shot taken from there), but I would say that the midfield was shit.

They don't control the game and last night they also failed to support the backline.

They've not controlled a single game we've played. I hope it improves, but in the end, the truth is that all of our pre-season games and start of the real season our play lacks character and is unconvincing.

Edit: The first goal was the worst probably. No-one tracking the run of Florenzi while Rano and Silvestre were already marking a player. Then on top of that Castellazzi was VERY BADLY POSITIONED. He didn't need to be that near to the post, had he been just a single step to the left, he had been able to cover all of his goal.

 

[vassago]

I'm sorry, our back 4 was quite reasonable. Silvestre made slight errors (well, 3rd goal was big one, shouldn't let a shot taken from there), but I would say that the midfield was shit.

They don't control the game and last night they also failed to support the backline.

They've not controlled a single game we've played. I hope it improves, but in the end, the truth is that all of our pre-season games and start of the real season our play lacks character and is unconvincing.

Edit: The first goal was the worst probably. No-one tracking the run of Florenzi while Rano and Silvestre were already marking a player. Then on top of that Castellazzi was VERY BADLY POSITIONED. He didn't need to be that near to the post, had he been just a single step to the left, he had been able to cover all of his goal.

i'm sorry too... it's everybody else fault except our defense...

 

[Sassuolu]

Yeah the midfield did suffer a bit because in the second half the team was stretched and that's how Totti got that easy pass but I don't know where Rano went in the second goal. But Rano has been one of the best things about the team so far.

 

[sanka]

It might be disturbin but i'd like to say to all after the loss just..

thank you.

 

[Concord]

3 home games without winning, with Inter conceded 7 goals !
Inter v Roma 1-3
Inter v FC Vaslui 2-2
Inter v Hajduk Split 0-2

While the other 3 away games Inter managed to win them with a clean sheets and 8 goals
Pescara v Inter 0-3
FC Vaslui v Inter 0-2
Hajduk Split v Inter 0-3

It seems that Inter approach in the away matches is effective more than the home matches