Inter - Roma (2 Sep 12)

[Pipka]

Shoddy defending on the 3 goals. Silvestre and Rano need go gel now because Samuel is not in form and Chivu, well he's Chivu.

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Any positives that you saw?

Well Ranocchia was quite ok other than that no not really did you?

 

[Ayalon]

Our best player today was Longo...

 

[Sevag]

Even though Lucio is a fuckin cunt.
I miss Lucio-Samuel 2009/2010

 

[cuckooc]

doesn't mean i haven't been a fan since 1997 when Ronaldo joined. just because i started to use the forum :trollol: too quick to assume buddy.

There is hierarchy in some of the member's mind.

 

[Universe]

If you can't even spell our captains name correctly then you have no right to an opinion.

The odd typo here and there is obviously fine, but to consistently call him 'Zanneti' invalidates anything you have to say.

 

[cuckooc]

Cassano had to be subbed out in 2nd half, Palacio was very tired because of last match and couldn't do much. Milito 's performance is awful tonight. Coutinho isn't goal threatening forward. We don't have much option when we need goal so desparately.

 

[snake]

Chiming in on the earlier argument, I would say this loss was due to both tactics AND personnel.


Personnel at the back were just plain shite, in particular Silvestre. Ranocchia was good though. How do we fix this? I would drop both Nagatomo and Silvestre for Pereira and Samuel respectively.

As for tactics, Strama fucked up. The game was played on Romas terms nearly 80% of the game. He should have slowed the game down. Make it fast and commit players forward, we will concede 90% of the time against those fast counter attacks.

Zemen > Strama by a long shot for this one. Was not happy with the subs either.

 

[interista1982]

Chiming in on the earlier argument, I would say this loss was due to both tactics AND personnel.


Personnel at the back were just plain shite, in particular Silvestre. Ranocchia was good though. How do we fix this? I would drop both Nagatomo and Silvestre for Pereira and Samuel respectively.

As for tactics, Strama fucked up. The game was played on Romas terms nearly 80% of the game. He should have slowed the game down. Make it fast and commit players forward, we will concede 90% of the time against those fast counter attacks.

Zemen > Strama by a long shot for this one. Was not happy with the subs either.

how can you win when everybody knows what you will do on attack come on left or through middle so other team can stay compact and defend these two options. this team has one problem and that is zanetti you can call him hero legend or what ever but when he play in mid or rb we play with 10 man other teams know he is shit in attack and now he is shit in defense he hold 70% responsibility for 2 goals

 

[KevinB]

Cassano had to be subbed out in 2nd half, Palacio was very tired because of last match and couldn't do much. Milito 's performance is awful tonight. Coutinho isn't goal threatening forward. We don't have much option when we need goal so desparately.

Cou didn't had much time to do something on the result to be honest. It's Strama's fault with changing the tactic to a 4-2-3-1. Palacio and Cou in that tactic didn't touch a ball..

 

[Intermtl]

After many years, I finally had to join a Inter fan forum.
Today's match left me with a desire to vent, so here it goes.

I think its quite evident Zanetti cant fill the role of Maicon. We are quite simply to easy to play against.

Really predictable, and that final ball is severely lacking.

We brought in a bunch of band aid players, who quite simply cant bring this team to where it should be.

Positives: Ranocchia looks solid. Although Guarin has weak technical capabilities (terrible touches) he is pretty solid.

That being said, I think its going to be an interesting season.

I look forward to contributing!

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Well that's that. Guardiola is free right? lol joking but I don't think he would do any better with this squad. Not much quality here despite popular belief.

Moratti will need to start investing in big players eventually if he wants Inter to remain a big club.

Totally agree.

I think everyone wanted to be optimistic and give the team a chance to show if they are capable of playing above their abilities...

but its written in the stars. I dont think the players we brought in have it in them.

 

[n4l]

Strama is pretty cluless about coaching offense(hat tip to n4l again).

I don't want to say he's clueless, but like I said, from the videos I saw in pre-season, we did next to ZERO in offensive patterns and movement, so really, it is not surprising that we are poor and disconnected in attack. Here's to hoping that he learns quickly and starts to coach these things.

On the flip side, you can tell Roma have worked extensively on attacking moves. Here's what I posted back during pre-season:

Yeah..went to that game live since I live in the area. Still pissed off we passed/didn't consider Pjanic....imagine him with guarin and cuchu in our midfield

Anyway, Roma ain't gonna be like last year at all, where the emphasis was on ball retention and play was slow. 3-4-3 now and they are looking to penetrate more often and much, much faster through patterned movements. I literally saw at least a dozen patterned offensive plays, some resulted in goals (first goal was a definite pattern). They have definitely improved and I expect them to be very explosive on offense. Their defense is horrible though and they'll need to sign a top defender, although, they could mitigate that with a stronger midfield.

Either way, they have no EU next season so I fully expect them to be in the top 3. Good luck Inter.

Sadly, what I've said has come to past. Their offensive movements destroyed us and like I said in Strama's thread, this is the way EVERYBODY is doing it now, so it is very shocking (and disappointing) that, from what I've seen so far, strama is not doing it.

 

[Milk!]

We don't have much option when we need goal so desparately.

i must say i disagree - we do have plenty options - but it's about how you use them
and tactically this game was simply bad, just like the subs

Although Guarin has weak technical capabilities (terrible touches) he is pretty solid.

and here i disagree again - guarin is not a bad player but he has to focus, get his head straight, act as part of a team and to stop shooting from every position. he shows some nice dribblin but slows the game down if he does so and passes the ball back (if he passes)


just my opinion though

 

[Il Divin Codino]

Calm down guys, give Strama and the players some time. Have you already forgotten the Olympics? One team may have the better players but at the end what matters is teamwork. Remember when we drew with Barcelona 0-0? Mou said the team wasn't ready yet and by the time we played in semifinals we kicked their asses. So we (and Moratti) need patience cause this is a long term project.

Also, I don't think Silvestre was as bad as most of you say. He's no world class but today I can't see his fault in any goal except maybe the second one, which then was also Ranocchia's fault. In the first one it was clearly Gargano's fault, he didn't chase his marking, in the third one no defender, NO ONE, could had stopped that shot, but a lot of goalkeepers could had. For me it was more Castellazi's mistake.

 

[cuckooc]

Cou didn't had much time to do something on the result to be honest. It's Strama's fault with changing the tactic to a 4-2-3-1. Palacio and Cou in that tactic didn't touch a ball..

I totally agree with you, it's 4-2-3-1 which make us worse. We lost the midfield and couldn't get the ball back.

However, with the only attack option, Coutinho, on the bench at that time, would you prefer to sub Milito out and change it to 4-3-2-1 while we are down by one goal or change it to 4-2-3-1 to have more forward on the pitch?

Now, we know the result and found out that 4-2-3-1 is one of the reason we lost to Roma, but can we predict the outcome?
If we still lost the the match by 1-2 with Palacio and coutinho upfront, will someone blame Strama because there is not enough Goal scoring option on the pitch?

 

[azuriak]

Record men (Fine secondo tempo)
Palle recuperate
55 Yuto Nagatomo (INTER) 23
29 Nicolás Andrés Burdisso (ROMA) 22
23 Andrea Ranocchia (INTER) 20
21 Walter Alejandro Gargano Guevara (INTER) 19
23 Ivan Rodrigo Piris Leguizamón (ROMA) 18
6 Matías Agustin Silvestre (INTER) 16

Passaggi riusciti
10 Francesco Totti (ROMA) 60
21 Walter Alejandro Gargano Guevara (INTER) 47
10 Wesley Sneijder (INTER) 44
42 Federico Balzaretti (ROMA) 40
77 Panagiotis Tachtsidis (ROMA) 33
23 Andrea Ranocchia (INTER) 32

Our Defenders are so nice.
Problems are in our Attackers.
Why our Attackers did not defence?(or Press)
Every Roma's Attackers did that.

 

[interista1982]

Record men (Fine secondo tempo)
Palle recuperate
55 Yuto Nagatomo (INTER) 23
29 Nicolás Andrés Burdisso (ROMA) 22
23 Andrea Ranocchia (INTER) 20
21 Walter Alejandro Gargano Guevara (INTER) 19
23 Ivan Rodrigo Piris Leguizamón (ROMA) 18
6 Matías Agustin Silvestre (INTER) 16

Passaggi riusciti
10 Francesco Totti (ROMA) 60
21 Walter Alejandro Gargano Guevara (INTER) 47
10 Wesley Sneijder (INTER) 44
42 Federico Balzaretti (ROMA) 40
77 Panagiotis Tachtsidis (ROMA) 33
23 Andrea Ranocchia (INTER) 32

Our Defenders are so nice.
Problems are in our Attackers.
Why our Attackers did not defence?(or Press)
Every Roma's Attackers did that.

because transfer window is over millito can relax and walk around and blame naga for everything wow

 

[Redbullsnation]

WTF was that??

 

[interista1982]

that milito runnign is done untill december and naga thing is not that milito is blaming naga but tht posters here are blaming naga and stats show that he was the best player in taking ball back

 

[KangarooMKD]

Guys, like seriosly. Calm down. It was only a bad evening, i agree with all that blaming (talking about Ranocchia and Silvestre), but tell me - how many matches have they played together? Not more than 2 I believe. So why's all that panic? Calm down, it's just 2nd round of Seria A, it's not end of the world if we have lost against Roma... In my opinion, the worst player today was Guarin. He experimented too damn much with the ball, tried to make some his new-made dribblings, backheel passes and all those long balls sucked. But in future i DO BELIEVE that it's going to get better. Just give them some time, we got a lot of new players. And yeah, Milito - i can't blame that player. He gave his best but he got blocked all the time by Balzaretti or Burdisso. And yeah, it's not Milito's fault if our midfielders didnt deliver the ball to him. He havent received any great ball so he could score. Sneijder was solid, as always, Gargano, Pereira and Cassano - i won't rate them cause they're new players, even if they played bad i won't say a word cause it's their 2nd match for us and Zanetti - you can't say bad words about our Capitano. Maybe we do miss Julione, cause Castelazzi sucks 'a bit'. Naga was okay, solid, maybe one of the best players on the field and I think that he's going to get the best rate by tomorrow by every newspaper.

Our next game will be in Turin and I truly believe that JuBe's supporters gonna come there and cheer against us. But WE'RE GOING TO WIN! FORZA!

 

[Nyall]

Tough loss, but it's Roma they're always a tough team.

I really don't think we're that bad, tbh.. We're still yet to play at 100%, this will hopefully come in time and I'm hoping the international break doesn't weaken us with injuries like in the past.