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If they are able to play good, attacking football, then it doesn't matter how old they are or what is their worth. Has anybody seen how Leicester attacked United today? If you know how to play football, you can beat anybody in certain special moments that happen in the games.

A lot of it goes to mentality - maybe they'll be ready as Balotelli...or maybe they'll flop. It's not just experience for them, it's also for the coach and management to see how they progressed.
 

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But that's the point of training them up. Your complaints about Puscas or Bonazzoli could have been applied to Destro, Dell'Agnello, Longo, or a range of other Inter primavera strikers over the years. Whether they make it or not is not decided at 18, its about how they tackle the next 3 years.

I would say the same about dellagnello and longo. destro on the other hand showed fantastic first touch, speed, and link up/hold up play - as well as goals. plus longo was only impressive for like a few months from what ive heard.

I agree that none of them should be written off, because literally anything can happen when it comes to young players - a lot of it (as im sure you're aware) comes down to mentality and decision making. wasnt thiago motta a barca and atletico reject a year before he came to inter, with a midtable italian team only willing to take a chance with him?

not that i think they should be released or anything ridiculous like that, just i dont think they will be top players. perhaps serie a, maybe serie b level - but its hard to tell at this point.

I've always used as a rule of thumb that the most impressive primavera players will make it, and this year it is definitely those 3. Martins is a extremely limited player in the similar way to Camara, and he's done reasonably for himself. I suspect Camara has a lot more technique than we see, too, he simply doesn't NEED to use it.

You don't beat the fullback/centre-back as often as he does without having some genuine talent in your body, too..

I dunno... I just dont see him as good enough. if everything goes very well for him, i see him becoming a biabiany at best. i dont think hype matters that much. remember the new maldini santon? or the new ibrahimovic slavskoski? what about the new ronaldinho kerlon? now we're witnessing the new zidane/messi mastour :lol:


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I would say the same shit about dellagnello and longo. destro on the other hand showed fantastic first touch, speed, and link up/hold up play - as well as goals. plus longo was only impressive for like a few months from what ive heard.

I agree that none of them should be written off, because literally anything can happen when it comes to young players - a lot of it (as im sure you're aware) comes down to mentality and decision making. wasnt thiago motta a barca and atletico reject a year before he came to inter, with a midtable italian team only willing to take a chance with him?

not that i think they should be released or anything ridiculous like that, just i dont think they will be top players. perhaps serie a, maybe serie b level - but its hard to tell at this point.



I dunno... I just dont see him as good enough. if everything goes very well for him, i see him becoming a biabiany at best. i dont think hype matters that much. remember the new maldini santon? or the new ibrahimovic slavskoski? what about the new ronaldinho kerlon? now we're witnessing the new zidane/messi mastour :lol:



love the concept of the website. keep it up man.

Yes, that's right on Longo, but still. I think the thing to credit Puscas with is his consistent ability to get in behind defenders and create chances to score, etc. Like I said, his 5 goals against Lanciano were nothing remarkable in themselves, but the fact that he landed 5 in one game is something to look at. Similarly, none of his 9 to date have been amazingly impressive off the top of my head, but he's not just heads, but heads and tails better than any primavera striker we've ever had before.

Similarly, Camara, I think its really impressive the way he can continue to create chances over the whole match. Amazing to see someone do it that effectively throughout the whole game, more than anything else.

bonazzoli is just amazingly brave. vieri-esque imho, he's like balotelli, can do anything he wants from anywhere. mind blowing, he just needs the physical side and experience really. he's too unimposing still physically.
 

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I would actually say that with Puscas' case you can't really train the talent to poach, and that is a talent thats actually transferable. If he is a class and I mean CLASS poacher now, he will probably be a class poacher at the next level. The question is whether he finds a team with a system to make his talents worthwhile.
 

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bonazzoli is just amazingly brave. vieri-esque imho, he's like balotelli, can do anything he wants from anywhere. mind blowing, he just needs the physical side and experience really. he's too unimposing still physically.

Prepare to be surprised when you see him in FIFA 15.
 

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2-0 up already. bonazzoli and ventre.

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3-0, bonazzoli
 

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just to show how dominant we really are..

shots on target we have 6, they have 1

dangerous attacks, we have 31 , theyy have 6
 

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4-0, go :yao: first goalf or inter
 

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two for ventre in, iirc, his first appearance of the season

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Four from bonazzoli
 

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and he is 1+ year younger than the others, i fail to see how is this unimpressive.


this primavera team s eems to be head and shoulders above other primaveras
 

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He's all like shit I'm well jelly of puscas time to inpress
 

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Stefano Vecchi has been doing wonderful job so far. two thumbs up for him
 

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my two years of incessant complaining seems to have yielded in a good primvera coach.
 

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if anything, the consistently dramatic scorelines indicate our players are head and shoulders better than everyone else - and the competition isn't challenging enough. plus the fact that our primavera directors don't know what they're doing.

if bonazzoli is as good as they say (at this level), i would've liked to see him go on loan to prato. puscas should be on loan in serie b. young players should be pushed ahead of the curve as much as possible to prepare them for the rigors of pro football earlier on. hence why barca's youth teams typically play against opponents from higher age groups.

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browha, just read your article, but how are we playing younger players than our opposition? after a brief investigation on transfermarkt, most of the other primavera sides have quite a few 16 year olds, a lot of 17 year olds, and a few 18 year olds scattered here and there (eg. milan, who are tied on points with us, atalanta, pescara, sassuolo etc)
 
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Some have them but generally they play a lot of their older players whereas we only retain a few 18 year olds. A year oor two ago Milan were playing a first team with like 9 months higher average age than us.
 
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