Davide Frattesi

[RotterdamNerazzurri]

He wasn’t as bad as people make him be. He started the game quite well imo. Als the first 15/20 minutes of the second half he did well.

 

[Kova10]

Yeah, give him the Barella treatment as in infinite expectations… he was fine, actually our biggest offensive threat along with Lauti. Plus he worked his ass off in a tough tough win.

Look across Europe what’s happening before you only judge guys. Juventus stalls, Milan stalls, Bayern lost last week & Bayer drew, Real struggled. It is a tough stage of the season and you have to grind sometimes. Our whole squad did so and Frattesi did too.

 

[varmin]

Frattesi delivered two good balls to Lautaro at the beginning of the second half. He had a decent first half as well. But, he needs to get more involved in the build up.
I guess some people just need to bich about someone.

 

[Gaindé]

He is not bad, he was actually pretty good today imo. Don't expect from Frattesi the same things Barella does and you'll be fine.

 

[vex]

Two options for him. Either surround him with super quality players that can pass, where he can use his instinct for goal and good runs, or use him as a super sub. If we count on him to be a rock and a foundation in midfield like tonight, we gonna have a bad time.

 

[pupivn]

He’s ok until final third, some weird decisions, like not passing but dribbling and losing ball.

 

[thatdude]

So many occasions tonight he was close to doing something really good. However he continually made the wrong decision in the crucial moment. The good thing is that he should improve in that aspect with more playing time. However, you do have to question his ceiling. When you’re playing against the truly top teams you’re going to need to improvise under pressure to maintain possession. He’s never going to be able to do that.

The part of his game we won’t be able to improve is more so the technical aspects which for a top level midfielder are obviously lacking. The only outfield player in our squad with less technical ability is Dumfries.

Still he can be a lot more effective in our system than we saw today. The team does need to anticipate his runs a bit better. He was open a lot today. However we are more of a circulate possession type team so a lot of his runs were wasted because we were passing backwards. A Klopp or Conte would love him. The team is going to need to adjust a bit to him and he a bit to the team.

 

[Universe]

Leave Frattesi alone! He's still adjusting to a top team!

Nah but seriously, difficult match for him to say the least. He felt isolated on the right flank a lot of the time, like he was playing by himself. Constantly felt like he had few options available which is why he kept trying to drive forward with the ball. That doesn't excuse losing it so often though and by comparison, Mkhitaryan, as he always does, felt a lot more "integrated" on the left side of midfield as a part of a working machine.

Some of that isolation or lack of integration comes from his own technical deficiencies but I'd say it didn't help playing on the defensive in a cagey away game, nor being paired with Darmian and Asllani. He'll always be more of an accessory in our system as opposed to a creator but he's definitely capable of much better.

Important to note that this is only the second league game he's started this season as well. He's also never had more than half an hour in any home match where we're expected to control the game. Admittedly, there isn't too much reason to, with Barella available, but give Frattesi a start alongside the full strength team when we play at home to Salernitana and Genoa for example - I don't think people will be calling him Gagliardini-like.

 

[brakbrak]

I like the guy, but let's stop crying that he doesn't get starts. His best role for THIS season is super sub who can be a goal threat. Hopefully he can learn to be a starter for us next season.

 

[CoolMan44]

I hope I dont have to see this fucker anytime soon when we need a goal.

Isn't that the best time to see him though? Like the Verona match.

 

[CoolMan44]

You can see his limitations (in being a fit for this team) but also his strengths in this match. At times I felt he was too fast for the rest of our team - what I mean by that is he was making runs that weren't spotted on time, and it feels like our team is playing a slower game in circulating the ball while he's making more direct runs that aren't being seen on time.

For example, in the first 20 minutes, he made a great run that Darmian just didn't spot on time (it was actually similar to the Thuram run that Darmian spotted later on that led to Augusto's chance). He did make some bad decisions on the counters but I feel that a few times he also wasn't helped by the rest of the team. On one of the counters, Thuram didn't time his run correctly and was offside which led to Frattesi holding on to the ball too long and losing it (I think this led to Bastoni's yellow once we lost the ball). He was also clearly fouled in added time. I think he maybe could have played the ball earlier but if the referee made the right call, Frattesi would have won us an important free kick with only a few minutes to go.

At the same time, he did have two nice plays for Lautaro - the very weak shot that Lautaro took centrally (I think he was starting to get tired at this point) and a pass that was similar to our goal against Juventus, but Martinez Quarta read Lautaro's run and blocked the shot.

I think Frattesi needs to improve in possession. I don't think he'll ever be a true fit for the team and our slower, more possession game but you do need players that bring something different and can change the game and I think Frattesi is one of those guys. I think if we had a more athletic team (or at least a few players), more would come from his good runs, as I feel at times our team is just too slow at giving him the right pass or even keeping up with him.

Again, this was just his second start in the league in a tough stadium. We all know he needs to improve in certain areas but despite not being his best game, he did have a lot of positives imo. This isn't the same as poor games from Gagliardini/Vecino where it felt they offer nothing. Even in this game he could have had an assist and even came close to a goal on that Thuram assist.

I think he needs more time and hopefully he gets more minutes as the season goes.

 

[PHM1605]

Dunno why this guy reminds me of Vecino in terms of style. Goals threat, driving forward, good headers but technical inept and such.

If Frattesi wouldn't be as irresponsible and lazy as Vecino he should be good enough.

 

[CoolMan44]

Vecino wasn't actually that much of a goal threat, at least not in terms of scoring goals. The highest number of Serie A goals he's scored for us was 3. Even in all competitions for us, the most he scored in a season was 5 goals, and 13 overall in 5 years. Gagliardini actually had a similar return and scored more in Serie A for us.

Vecino did have the ability to get into good positions in the box though and scored important goals for us. I think Frattesi is better at driving forward with the ball than Vecino though and overall a better player imo. He's more of a goal threat too, having scored 7 goals in Serie A last season and he already has 4 goals overall this season despite only starting 7 games.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

It’s fine to criticize him but he isn’t doing all that bad in reality. Has come up big more than once with limited minutes. He clearly has something. It’s a cliche but he needs time to grow. People just shouldn’t be befuddled about why he isn’t starting.

 

[wera]

Atm I'll be okay if he progresses slowly into a more diverse player, being better at opening lanes... after that also his final third passing will get better. I was frustrated yesterday when watching, but yeah, he is still a player with much, much potential.

Maybe Inzaghi could start him a game or two more by now.

 

[ath]

Started really slowly, Mikhi was the only midfielder who did great from start to finish, but at the game progressed he was doing better.

Hins runs and his presence on the opponent box gives us more options to score.

 

[Campione]

Goals threat, driving forward, good headers but technical inept and such.

Same here.

The only thing that I do not like is his technical inability in certain moments. Everything else is OK.

 

[NimAraya]

So many occasions tonight he was close to doing something really good. However he continually made the wrong decision in the crucial moment. The good thing is that he should improve in that aspect with more playing time. However, you do have to question his ceiling. When you’re playing against the truly top teams you’re going to need to improvise under pressure to maintain possession. He’s never going to be able to do that.

The part of his game we won’t be able to improve is more so the technical aspects which for a top level midfielder are obviously lacking. The only outfield player in our squad with less technical ability is Dumfries.

Still he can be a lot more effective in our system than we saw today. The team does need to anticipate his runs a bit better. He was open a lot today. However we are more of a circulate possession type team so a lot of his runs were wasted because we were passing backwards. A Klopp or Conte would love him. The team is going to need to adjust a bit to him and he a bit to the team.

Unfortunately that's not only about Frattesi. Our players tend to make a lot of wrong decisions specially on the counters. They either play too cute, keep the ball way too long, shoot when they should pass, pass when they should shoot, choose a wrong direction to run and choke themselves in a tight angle, and choose to cross when they have space and time to make a better decision. I have seen these happening so many times from several of our players. We need to fix this. It's not solely down to our lack of pacey players.

 

[Il Drago]

I like the guy, but let's stop crying that he doesn't get starts. His best role for THIS season is super sub who can be a goal threat. Hopefully he can learn to be a starter for us next season.

Problem is people had unrealistic expectations on Frattesi, also because he was linked with a Brozovic exit. So they were expecting him to come here and be a starter from day one. But the reality is he doesn't have the quality of Nico and he doesn't have the technical ability to play Mkhi's role. For the time being he can only be a super sub and Nico's backup.

Could he have started more games? Sure. But he's in no way good enough to be a starter at Inter right now.

 

[Alex de Large]

We can say he is a rich-man Vecino.
Vecino can't even dribble and is mediocre at defending.