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“The important term is ‘functional.’ Football is full of these situations, where players are signed who are then not functional to the tactical system or team he is placed into.

Great managers are able to adapt their tactical system and make use of all their players. Only shit managers do use a single tactical system without any plan b, c, ect.
 

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Marotta's impact thus far:

- Banned Nainggolan for a game, which was actually quite crucial.
- Effectively told the coach after PSV that the only way he wasn't getting fired was if he won a trophy, which was the Europa League and the Coppa Italia.
- Did not do anything to help the team's chances by reinforcing the squad in the winter mercato, where he only replaced an injured Vrsaljko with Cedric Soares.
- Failed to sell Perisic in January who was part of a locker room mess that Marotta himself helped accelerate.
- He had meetings with other coaches and even agreed with one (Conte) a few days later.
- A few days later proceeded to side with the manager who he was about to sack [whether immediately or at the end of the season, makes no difference here as we are in mid-February], after a row with the team's captain who was reacting to the bad results and the selective criticism of the coach towards specific players.
- That eventually led to alienating the club's highest profile player, creating a media circus.
- It also ensured that there was no way we could have challenged the Europa League as the whole team was a mess. And it was a winnable competition.
- He hired, at Inter, the former captain of EPO and Calciopoli Juventus, as well as the manager of the recent corrupted situation*. At Inter!!!!
- He publicly froze out Icardi and Nainggolan, making sure that their value tanked completely. As a result, we barely managed to loan them for the previous season. One of them is back and looks as demotivated as a player can be.
- He managed to pay every penny demanded to Manchester United's latest big flop in Romelu Lukaku.
- He managed to fuck up a decent bunch of players that he found at the club, no matter who they are: Icardi, Nainggolan, Miranda, Asamoah, Politano. That's like 1/4 of the roster with a minimum return.
- He almost fucked up the sale of Gabriel Barbosa, eventually allowed him to go for what Flamengo was initially offering for 3 months prior to his return to Inter, yet he managed to make sure that Inter paid a month's salary on top of that!
- He has been trying to sell Skriniar and Brozovic since forever.
- He managed to reduce Godin into a fringe player.
- He ensured that Eriksen is humiliated by Conte on a weekly basis.
- He gave in to almost every demand by the coach in the transfer market: Lukaku, Lazaro, Vidal, Kolarov, Young, Moses.

On a positive note:
- He managed to bring in Alexis Sanchez.
- Achraf Hakimi came under his watch.
- I could credit him with Niccolo Barella as well but it really wasn't his doing apart from inflating his fee. He gets credit for Stefano Sensi though even if he was on our radar since forever.


Effectively, under his tenure we have seen top names be reduced into training cones to being banned from training as well as being exiled to Sardegna. While we seem to overpay for any demand the coach has (Lukaku, Kolarov, Lazaro in particular come to mind).



*As Mourinho's pen pal in Portugal said 2 years ago:
“The analyses were conclusive and definitive, according to the anti-doping authorities,” wrote Eladio Parames.


“The matter ended up before the courts. Appeal after appeal, influence from various sides made it possible to archive the trial and not have anyone seriously punished, to the despair of the controllers.


“And who was the Juve captain? Antonio Conte!


“Later that same gentleman was suspended for six months, accused of being involved in the ‘arrangement’ of results. He denied this, of course, but the infamy of being involved in murky negotiations has never gone away.


“And it is this gentleman, who as you can see comes from an untainted past, who accuses Jose Mourinho of, among other things, smallness.


“Could be, but he’s much bigger than the Italian in terms of trophies won and in… hair!”



Still zero trophies even if he managed a double budget compared to the two seasons before him that pretty much had the same results. Zero titles, Champions League qualification, Europa League in the group stage demotion, while the opposition keeps deteriorating so his job was actually far easier than Sabatini before him as the starting point was different and the end goal was getting closer without us having to do much about it.
I don't think Juventus misses him that much and I cannot say that he's added anything concrete at Inter other than new faces at a very high cost to both the club's coffers and its brand name. I'm not sure why a top player would want to come to Inter seeing how Icardi, Eriksen and Godin were treated. It's a gamble, it's not a place where top players can expect to be treated with the respect they they would receive at other clubs.
 

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I have good laugh with some of these bullshits :D

I was having a laugh as well with the infantile level of responses I've been getting, but I do wonder, where exactly do you disagree? Care to articulate what exactly is funny and what's bullshit?
 

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Marotta's impact thus far:....

Couple of points I disagree with.

- Icardi has only himself to blame for his circus. Wanda's public outrage of his teammates is unacceptable by any costs, especially by the team captain's wife to do so. And I can't grasp why you keep defending Icardi. See one of my next points for clarification.
- We would never have beaten Chelsea in the Europa League final. Could already see Hazard raping Asamoah, if we couldn't even take Bergwijn on back when he was at PSV. We couldn't even beat Sevilla last year. Loser's mentality is still very much high in this group until they win something.
- Now to come back to Icardi, no player is bigger than the club. Highest profile player blabla. He is and remains a clown. I will always cheer for the player Icardi at Inter. But as human being he's the equivalent of a mop. Every penny spent on Lukaku is triple worth it so far. And I expect it to be. With Lukaku, as weird as it sounds, we have a shot at some trophies. With Icardi, never. Reason? Not because Lukaku's triple the player Icardi is, I mean, Icardi's always going to be the better finisher. But because Lukaku's a leader for us. Doesn't create fusses, gets along with everyone, keeps the dressing room united even in losses and Conte madness. We don't hear a single incident, not a single complaint (aside from Eriksen), but then again, it never becomes a fuss aside from in Denmark). Lukaku > Icardi.
- Radja's flame was over the moment he left Roma. It just is what it is. We signed him 5 years too late. He just wants the cash to keep up with the lifestyle.
- Defending Asamoah and Politano now? Fuck, one has been missing since last year and Politano, do we really miss him? We got 20m, which is still 10m too much imo.
- Ah yes, let's try to blame Marotta for getting MORE money for brazil's topscorer (or whatever, he won Libertadores). Instead of selling him cheap. If we sold everyone for the first bid coming in, we wouldn't be much of a business (Even though, hilariously, we suck in business, but then again, you win some, you lose some).
- Conte reduced Godin to a fringe player.
- Conte humiliates Eriksen. Is Marotta now a kindergartner teacher? This is all on Conte.
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall you posting a similar thing as why a top player would want to come to Inter with Conte in reigns.
Easy. 1. Money 2. Allure, we're still a top club and still going for prices now 3. As much as you hate it, but yes, Conte.
 

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Marotta's impact thus far:

- Banned Nainggolan for a game, which was actually quite crucial.
- Effectively told the coach after PSV that the only way he wasn't getting fired was if he won a trophy, which was the Europa League and the Coppa Italia.
I don't get why still people complaining about how 9N was treated? Even he confessed that he was wrong with his attitude at Inter. And he hasn't still changed. I really expected 9N to be some factor in Conte's team this year but unfortunately he didn't show anything close to his prime days. I know that you will blame Conte for his form but for me it's clear that this guy is finished for big football. We were tricked by Roma to get an washed player with no motivation and desire to play for Inter. Personally i rate this deal as the second worst after JM's one.
Spalletti lost the locker room after PSV's game as well as most of the fans. If you want to blame Marotta for his failure, let it be but this does not mean that it's true.

- Did not do anything to help the team's chances by reinforcing the squad in the winter mercato, where he only replaced an injured Vrsaljko with Cedric Soares.
- Failed to sell Perisic in January who was part of a locker room mess that Marotta himself helped accelerate.
- He had meetings with other coaches and even agreed with one (Conte) a few days later.
- A few days later proceeded to side with the manager who he was about to sack [whether immediately or at the end of the season, makes no difference here as we are in mid-February], after a row with the team's captain who was reacting to the bad results and the selective criticism of the coach towards specific players.
- That eventually led to alienating the club's highest profile player, creating a media circus.
- It also ensured that there was no way we could have challenged the Europa League as the whole team was a mess. And it was a winnable competition.
Not reinforcing the squad was related with already planned change of the coach at the end of the season. There was no sense to continue building a team for a finished coach like Spalletti as it's possible that these players could not fit in the system of new coach. It was a huge gamble as there was a real chance to miss CL due to that, but he was lucky and we made it. I neither judge him nor defending him about this decision.
Failed to sell Perisic in January?! Were there any real offers for him at first place? No. Perisic's case is not on Marotta. We had a good chance to sell him after WC for 45-50mln with Man U after him but our stupid management demanded 70m. Which was insane. Back then he was at his peak. We missed to sell him and he started to decline soon after. It was shortsighted decision by the club.
Icardi's situation was discussed a lot here. I see that you still stand of the opinion of yours that Marotta has main blame for it. I completely disagree with you. I won't repeat my arguments here just want to say that replacing Icarid with Lukaku was great move even that we paid 20+mln more in the process.
The mess in the team wasn't created by him at first place. He has his share in clearing of that mess.

- He publicly froze out Icardi and Nainggolan, making sure that their value tanked completely. As a result, we barely managed to loan them for the previous season. One of them is back and looks as demotivated as a player can be.
- He managed to pay every penny demanded to Manchester United's latest big flop in Romelu Lukaku.
- He managed to fuck up a decent bunch of players that he found at the club, no matter who they are: Icardi, Nainggolan, Miranda, Asamoah, Politano. That's like 1/4 of the roster with a minimum return.

Sorry but 9N value was not existent after the poor season of him. And that it's not Marotta fault, but Nainggolan's and of the management who brought him here despite his unwillingness.
Icardi value dropped but not significantly as nobody offered sum even close to his release clause when he had the best season of him. So, with all shits which his wife did, even before Marotta to strip the armband of him how do you think his real value was? For me no more than 70-80mln. Actually bar PSG, nobody came with any important offer, even Jubentus. That shows how high the other clubs rated Icardi.



- He has been trying to sell Skriniar and Brozovic since forever.
- He managed to reduce Godin into a fringe player.
- He gave in to almost every demand by the coach in the transfer market: Lukaku, Lazaro, Vidal, Kolarov, Young, Moses.

About Skriniar - Inter fans are angry at Marotta because they are biased toward Skriniar. But from Marotta's perspective, he had a player who wasn't very convincing in his new position with high market value in same time. He put 60mln price for his head with Milinkovic (it's assumption of mine) ready as replacement. That would have been a good deal from financial point of view as well as for the team as Milinkovic is better RCB than Skriniar. You can argue that this is a downgrade in a long term as if next coach switches to 4 men defense, Skriniar will be better fit. But actually there are no guaranties that Conte will leave after this season of even after the next ones.
Brozovic is good against teams like Bologna, Verona, Benevento etc. and his contract expires soon. Marotta tried to get some decent money for him but sadly due to COVID, there were no good offers. We definitely need upgrade over Brozo in long term regardless of a coach.
Lazaro was not Conte request. Kolarov is poor call, i agree. All of the others Conte's demands were good additions considering their price.




- He ensured that Eriksen is humiliated by Conte on a weekly basis.
:D He actually accomplished Eriksen's transfer at Inter dude.
For me, this is his worst move on the transfer market so far. I hope he will fetch at least 20mln for Eriksen in January to cover our losses there.
 

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Is this guy planning to resign after the failure?

Third CL elimination in a row under his watch, each time it's getting worse.
 

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What i dont get is the clear and straight strategy here. We got conte and it does not work, where is the simple disaster strategy if the first scenario goes wrong? Its like in IT where you have to have several options and scripts if something goes terribly wrong...its not fucking rocket science
 

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What i dont get is the clear and straight strategy here. We got conte and it does not work, where is the simple disaster strategy if the first scenario goes wrong? Its like in IT where you have to have several options and scripts if something goes terribly wrong...its not fucking rocket science

The strategy is to pocket Chinese money. It's working well for both Conte and Marotta.
 

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He has no clear idea what he is doing. His contradicts himself; does he want a long term or short term project for this Inter? You cant go for both.

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He tells us to be patient because this is a long term project, yet his manager is a one dimensional one, with zero tactical flexibility, and bunch of overpaid, passed it old players... This is total contradiction.
 

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Football wise, the owners ARE clueless.

That's why they hired and pay very well a CEO.

It's marotta's job to make things work at Inter.

The owners have given him a reasonable amount of money for Inter to succeed.
 

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Fucking 12 mils net for this. Even fucking average dolphin would make the subs earlier
 

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Thanks a lot, Doc.

Dr Marotta strikes again.
 

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I wonder what we had before Marotta? reading this forum, I am feeling lost, were we top 4 finishers all the time and just a CEO away from winning titles or something? Have our signings been proved strategically right all the time before Beppe?
 

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I wonder what we had before Marotta? reading this forum, I am feeling lost, were we top 4 finishers all the time and just a CEO away from winning titles or something? Have our signings been proved strategically right all the time before Beppe?

I sometimes wonder if people think before they post and make ridiculous comparisons of unrelated circumstances and situations.
 

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People should stop blame Marotta. There are no chance we sign Lukaku, Eriksen, or any top player for another team with good fee.

Marotta had idea replace Conte with Allegri, but our beloved owner say no. Zhang trust Conte very much.
 

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People should stop blame Marotta. There are no chance we sign Lukaku, Eriksen, or any top player for another team with good fee.

Marotta had idea replace Conte with Allegri, but our beloved owner say no. Zhang trust Conte very much.

First paragraph = part of the problem.
Second paragraph = not entirely accurate. Yet still his fault he hired Conte in the first place despite clear signs that he'd falter.
 
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