Antonio Conte

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Rafa wanted to sign Mascherano and Sanchez back then.

On Mascherano, we were close but outbid by Barcelona. That money existed because our transfer of Hernanes was blocked by FIGC after they changed the non-EU quota rules at the last minute. It wasn't enough for Liverpool who found Barcelona's offer to be better.
It was essentially the money that we got from Real Madrid from their taking of Mourinho.

Moratti just said that there wasn't going to be any important investments without sales and he did not intend to sell anyone from a treble winning squad, so we just had the likes of Biabiany, Coutinho and Mariga.
We also sold Balotelli for 30-35m but most of it went to offer nee salaries to some triplete heroes. We didn't manage to sell players we had on loan, such as Mancini, Burdisso iirc and Rivas.

We ended up buying Ranocchia and Pazzini in the following winter as our roster was getting thin.

We could have handled that much better, everyone knows that. But the bigger crimes happened in 2011.
 

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Im not sure we were ever that close to Mascherano, tbh

anyway

the other thing is the FFP writing was on the wall. 11-12 was the first season to have FFP imparted. I cant remember what the rules were on 'not counting' previous amortisation - perhaps it ended 9/10? Either way, Moratti also had a cashflow problem.

What we should have done, imho, is sold key players for good profits. We had like 25-30m for Maicon from City? Real I cant remember how much they offered for Milito. Sneijder as well was very in demand.

I dont see how the fan base would have stomached it, but we could have raised like 100m that window selling players who ultimately left for VERY little in due course - that could have helped us regenerate (though of course who knows who we would have actually signed)
 

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What we should have done, imho, is sold key players for good profits. We had like 25-30m for Maicon from City? Real I cant remember how much they offered for Milito. Sneijder as well was very in demand.

I dont see how the fan base would have stomached it, but we could have raised like 100m that window selling players who ultimately left for VERY little in due course - that could have helped us regenerate (though of course who knows who we would have actually signed)

The biggest mistake I think post-treble was the decision to not sell few of our key players. It will not be only getting profits, but also to relief ourselves from high wages of aging player. Additionally, getting young players, to replace the aging players, and put them in a team full of champions will be easier to get them settled and we could have tried to maintain the cycle or create new cycle.

It is easy to say from hindsight of course. But I think it was the most fatal decision made by the management and I can see why Moratti made that decision. He took decision by emotion, he felt the wining treble squad was his heroes and therefore he did not want to let them go. Although at the end of the day, with the financial constraint, he did ask sneijder to reduce salary, and let most of our key players for cheap or free (expired contract, etc.).
 

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Main problem was the Mourinho betrayal. Same old players with same coach staff could have made 2-3 more good years and maybe another scudetto.
 

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Im not sure we were ever that close to Mascherano, tbh

We had agreed terms with the player but the clubs were never that close. Then Barcelona appeared and snooped in. We were his priority as he wanted to play for Rafa again, probably the only player ever to say that. Barcelona had a rejected bid the season prior and they insisted, he liked that from their part and he also wanted to gtfo of Liverpool. But his priority was to join Inter.

We had the chance to buy him but did not meet Liverpool's demands and we even offered Muntari as part of the deal :lol:
 

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The classic Muntari + 6m€.

(I really don't know if that is the truth)
 

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ah yeah, i can believe we were close to terms with the player, but afaik we were never close on the transfer fee. As Cafe says, we all remember Muntari+6 for Mascherano, which was clearly ludicrous and never going to be accepted

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Main problem was the Mourinho betrayal. Same old players with same coach staff could have made 2-3 more good years and maybe another scudetto.

TBH I dont think so. I'd argue its kinda like Liverpool now - they went 110% to win the league (and previously the CL), they need a break.

We might have won another league under Mourinho, but I think a lot of the guys like Lucio, Motta, Milito, Maicon perhaps even Sneijder, kinda over-exerted themselves and never really got anywhere near the same level again.

Couple with the fact that, imho, Cesar was going down hill (he 'lost it' imho after his lamborghini crash near the CL semis? Was never quite the same again), etc.

Lucio and Samuel were 33 at the end of 10/11, Maicon was 29 (but brazil party boy so equivalent of 60 for anyone else apparently), Cordoba 34, Milito 32.


Mourinho got a perfect season out of some good players, but they were spent. Probably didnt help that the treble season was followed up with a world cup, too, and then we had things like the world club championship.
 

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I agree with Browha. If Mourinho had stayed we would probably have another Scudetto and a CL semi-final in 2010/11 but it wouldn't change our future dramatically. In 2011 we would need a serious rebuild as we had a very aging squad. And that's the main difference with this season. While we have some oldies, we also have a young core we can build on. If Suning don't fuck it up, this could be the start of a new great era.
 

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Yep, and dont forget, our financials really drove what happened post treble. With the FFP roll out and high salaries and limited revenue, our transfer budgets were always going to be limited. The prize money of continued success would hav helped to mitigate this in a limited way, but really, the 'only' way for us to have been healthy in the 2010s imho would have been selling maybe 100m of players from the treble winning squad (including Balotelli), and really kicking off a rejuvenation program at that point in time. Substantial boost of sponsorship revenues, too, and modernising our media arm.

Suning have, mostly, gotten us to where we needed to be, only probably 15-20 years too late, but we're still doing OK in the scheme of things (top 15 in europe for revenue, etc).

As Drago says, the thing that really excites me is our younger core. As Drago says, many of our key players are on the younger side. I dont see any reason - aside from Handanovic - this team cant be the same fundamental core in 3 years time, and we'll have massively reduced our amortisation costs as well. Of course salary will go up too, but it'll provide a lot of 'balance sheet' that we could play with imho.
 

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We were saying the same thing about the core of 2005 and half the players had to leave for us to see significant success.
 

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Well, I certainly didnt say that about 05.The defense was fine, Samuel/Cordoba/Zanetti/Materazzi but seriously (obviously/famously) lacking a good LB, I was never a fan of Solari/Cesar/Gonzalez, and to be honest, never felt Recoba was reliable enough or Martins had enough talent. I wasnt that big of a fan of Pizarro either, he was alright but I think limited.
 

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"Adriano + Martins is the future". 90% of FIF felt that way and it wasn't easy to convince people that Martins wasn't anything special :D

People also overrated Emre a lot but he was gone by the end of that season..
 

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yeah, Emre was always a fan favourite but he never really did 'that' much for us imho (hazy memory).


Adriano should have been the future, to be fair, but for circumstances outside of control. Imagine 2006-209 Inter being led by Ibrahimovic+Adriano. Hard to know what we would have done in 2010 if Adriano was peak form though - I'd guess probably no Milito?
 

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Llorente admitted Conte was ‘fundamental’ for his own career and is not surprised Inter are doing well with his former boss at the helm.

“Antonio was fundamental for me. As soon as I arrived at Juve, I thought I was in a good condition. We started working hard and went down, down, down. I wasn’t used to those workloads. I also thought Antonio was crazy,” Llorente said and laughed.
“I was struggling to recover, but then he organised a series of friendlies with Serie D and non-League teams to help me settle in.
“He trusted me and soon the goals arrived. Conte has a crazy mentality, he gets in your head, he transmits conviction of self-esteem.
“He’s a coach who makes you win.”

Llorente admitted he believed Inter would win the Scudetto in a short while when Conte arrived at San Siro.
“[I thought] he would soon end the domination of my Juve,” he said. “Antonio won in his first year in Turin, his first year at Chelsea and he will win in his second year at Inter.
“He’s capable of any feat. There are no traps. Inter are very strong and knowing Antonio, the Scudetto is now a closed case.”

Llorente also spoke about his current teammate Rodrigo de Paul, who has been linked with a move to one of the giants.
“He’s very ready,” Llorente continued. “He’s a great played. Complete, technical, with the right mentality.”
 

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I've fucking sat through 90 minutes of an attacking trident of Rocci, Alvarez, and Guarin. I once watched us lose to Crotone with a double pivot in the midfield of Kondogbia and Medel.

Is that Interista version of Rutger Hauer's famous monologue in Bladerunner?

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“I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.”

In the future I will tell my bastard, ingrate sons, "I've seen things you shitters wouldn't believe. John Carew doing a trial at Appiano. I watched Novara win at San Siro. All those moments will remain in infamy, like smears of shit on a bathroom wall. Time to WATCH INTER AGAIN IN 3 DAYS."
 

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"Inter coach Antonio Conte insists he remains undeterred by criticism of the Nerazzurri and insists he is ready to take the brunt instead of the team.
The league leaders travel to the Stadio Diego Armano Maradona to face Napoli in Serie A tomorrow evening and the coach addressed criticism surrounding their style of play, whilst also demanding focus as Inter look to secure the Scudetto.

“I understand that I am the problem, regardless of the criticism. The important thing is that they do not touch Inter,” the coach declared in his pre-match press conference, as reported by FCInterNews.it.

“It’s not a question of getting angry or not if players feel they have already won, it’s a question of knowing that there are still points we need to gain if we are to reach our objective.

“We must go to Naples to play the game and try to get the victory, as they will. Then we’ll see the result. We can’t make calculations, because in my experience it is not useful to do it. It would become dangerous.”

Conte also insisted that his side were not champions yet, despite having an 11-point gap at the top of the table, and felt it important to ignore suggestions from pundits that they had wrapped up the title.

“We must not read too much into this. That some think the Scudetto has been awarded to us already is a risk we must avoid, a trap to not fall into. We know the sacrifices we’ve made to get to this position but we must remain humble enough to know that we are still short of making the dream come true.”

Inter come up against a Napoli side that have enjoyed four wins from their last five games under coach Gennaro Gattuso, and Conte was expected a difficult encounter.

“I am expecting a challenging match and I have always put Napoli among the two or three teams that could compete for the title, because I know the squad and they have a very good coach in Gattuso. We must be ready for a very difficult match,” he continued.

“Napoli have an important squad, I think one of the best in Serie A. At the beginning of the season I put them among the candidates to fight to win the Scudetto.

“Rino is doing well and he is a very good coach, but we know all well, me included, that the coach is the person in the firing line if the results are lacking.

“It has not been an easy year even for me. If a player asks me for advice on whether to become a coach or not, I always tell them that it takes a lot of effort. Sometimes even when you get result you are not the best. It takes passion must to go beyond right or wrong decisions.”

Inter faced a difficult match against Napoli in December, securing a 1-0 win courtesy of a Romelu Lukaku penalty after Lorenzo Insigne had been sent off, and the coach continued to praise the Azzurri.

“There are times when you put your opponents in difficulty and others when it is the opposite. They have quality and players who are good at attacking spaces. They are a group of players who know each other and have been playing together for a long time.

“They have added expensive players like [Victor] Osimhen, and [Hirving] Lozano last year. They are strong but we have to show that we are too.

“We have great respect and we will go there to play the game. In the Coppa Italia we lost 1-0 last year at the San Siro after dominating. In the end they went on to win the trophy.”

Inter have enjoyed the luxury of relatively stable team in the mould of Conte’s 3-5-2 formation this season, and the coach felt that having a core identity was crucial to enjoying success in modern football.

“I think each team must have it’s own identity and insisting on a certain system can provide this. Then beyond that there are the principles, which can be adapted to different types of systems.

“I believe that working on a system for players is simpler, they become familiar. You can make changes in possession and without the ball, but you have to be able to recognise a team.”

The match will see Lukaku come up against centre-back Kalidou Koulibaly and Conte expected an interesting clash between them.

“We are talking about a defender who I consider among the two or three best in the world. He’s a very strong player that I wanted to bring to Chelsea. He has developed since then.

“It is useless for me to introduce Koulibaly to Romelu, he knows him. He too has grown a lot, it will be a good battle, but to put the opponent in difficulty, we have to work as a team by finding the solutions in the match.”

Finally, the Nerazzurri coach gave an injury update on players, including wing-back Ivan Perisic after the Croatian missed the last three games, and midfielder Arturo Vidal.

“Ivan is with the group and is available. Vidal is still working separately together with [Aleksandar] Kolarov to overcome his injury. Kolarov has a back problem, we hope to have him as soon as possible,” Conte concluded."
 
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