Antonio Conte

Former P&C or La Grande Inter?


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I'm really pissed, my theory :
- we couldn't sack him this season
- we want to keep dressing room calm now, I read that many players texted him asking to stay

Hence there's compromise for this situation. All players we link after the meeting are for short term so we can switch to another coach.
For Tonali maybe they don't expect Milan coming up for him but re-valuate that we can skip him.
Tonali looks great, I like him from what I watch him play but now have to hope he becomes to someone having similar playing style : Andrea Poli.
 
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Where is the plan? Maybe we are becoming button lipped?

Maybe our plan is to win with Kolarov, Vidal, Darmian and to rebuild the squad again in 1 season? It sure seems like it.

If Conte believes those signing ensure us beating Juve, he will be sadly mistaken when we finish below Roma.
 

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Yeah okay have your meltdowns and over reactions now.

Conte and Inter are aiming to win the league.

Ac Milan are aiming to develop young talents and selling them on to make money to buy more young players to sell them on and on.I'd rather we now get experienced champions here and dont become the Italian Ajax.We have enough young ones here already.Please trust the people who have ensured 3 years of UCL football and calm yo titties.
 

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I don’t know anything if this idiot wins anything.
 

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Only thing I can think of for not going after Tonali and wanting all these vets is because they are cheaper than Tonali.

With reports saying the Chinese gov't approved Suning spending big for Messi and them working to get sponsorships (to facilitate the transfer/his salary), it leads me to believe that Suning wants Messi more than anyone. Now I'm not in agreeance with getting him. IMHO Messi hasn't been the same player since Xavi/Iniest left Barca and only until a young hungry Neymar came did he resurface because before that Ronaldo was really dominating the "rivalary". Barca has not been the same. The game would flow through the 3 of them, but now it only flows through Messi. He'd work well at City because KDB is a great passer, but I don't think Messi will be the Messi everyone feel in love with.

The only other reason I can see for them not going after Tonali is, Conte wants Vidal/Kante which neither IMHO are worth chasing after. Inter should be going after a player Marotta has been mentioned with and that's SMS. IMHO SMS would solve a big issue we have and that's winning the ball back. Our left side of the central mid is pretty damn weak unless Barella gets shifted there, but that then leaves the right side weak. With SMS you solve that issue. Not only is he strong but he's intelligent with the ball, runs all game long and like everyone knows has a cannon of a shot. I'm speculating on SMS being of interest solely on the fact that Brozovic is on the market. If we acquired Tonali then Brozovic could not be moved because Tonali is not quiet ready to start game in and game out. He would need a month or 2 to be ready and should only come on as a sub until he's proven he's capable to run things (he would actually directly replace Brozovic's role in our squad which is a vital role to play).

So we stopped chasing Tonali because Marotta is looking at someone young but already well established (SMS).
If not we fucking revolt.
 

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since i can't actually influence any decisions, i'm just gonna sit back and give his gameplan a chance, let's see what he is able to do with the moves he is making

it's his last chance to prove himself anyway, so whatever
 

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Yeah okay have your meltdowns and over reactions now.

Conte and Inter are aiming to win the league.

Ac Milan are aiming to develop young talents and selling them on to make money to buy more young players to sell them on and on.I'd rather we now get experienced champions here and dont become the Italian Ajax.We have enough young ones here already.Please trust the people who have ensured 3 years of UCL football and calm yo titties.
Which young player have we sold? The only ones we have sold were Locatelli (who didnt want to be a rotation player), Djalo (Leao deal) and Cutrone (plusvalenza)

If anything, we are getting rid of our deadweight and older players. We have already let go the likes of Biglia, Bonaventura, RR and Reina. The only 30+ players on our squad are Ibra, Kjaer, Donna Sr and Musacchio (who would have been sold too had he not been injured). Both Kjaer and Ibra have proven vital to the team and thats why they are here.

Our mercato last season was:

Theo (21)
Bennacer (21)
Duarte (23)
Saelemakers (20)
Rebic (25)
Krunic (25)
Leao (20)
Ibra (38)
Luan (19)
Kjaer (31)

This season so far:

Kalulu (20)
Roback (17)
Tonali (20) - rumored
Brahim (21) - rumored
Bakayoko (26) - rumored
Aurier (27) - rumored
Pobega (21) - loan return

Then there are links to the likes of Chiesa (22), Szobo (19), Milenkovic (22), Ajer (22), Fofana (19), Florentino (21).

If anything, we are going for a healthy balance of experienced players with promising youth prospects. Not going for a full scale youth project was probably one of the reasons why we didnt end up going with Rangnick (who didnt want Ibra and Kjaer in the team). Maldini is going for a hybrid and looking to build on the growth of the last season by reinforcing the weak areas of the squad.

The team Maldini is building is not for the scudetto but to reach the CL. Also Elliot doesnt intend to keep Milan for a long time. But they need to make it attractive enough for a potential buyer hence the youth investment.

Inter on the other hand is targeting scudetto which is why Conte wants more experienced players (ala champions). Probs why they passed on Tonali.

Also in my opinion, Tonali would get playing time at Milan as he would be rotating with Baka, Kessie and Bennacer.

I reckon that Inter withdrew from the race to prioritise proven champions like Vidal as they already have too many midfielders in the squad. They would have probably been in the race had they managed to sell some of their existing midfielders.








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You make valid points @Ash. Maybe join us more often and not only when there's a derby or silly season. We could need a sane outsider ala Bluenine when he's over RnB.
 

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OK. Tonali is gone. Fuck! I wanted this kid here.

But let be sincere. We want the title. Even many of you say that Conte has no excuse because of Pirlo and other reason.
But my friends, our midfield is not so good. Not enough to be favorites. Tonali won't change that. He is too young and inexperienced. Maybe in 2023 he will be, but we want to win now. If we have money for one player, more or less with selling deadwood, I can understand Conte wanted someone established (Kante or Ndombele). But for fuck sake, not Vidal.
 

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I feel with Conte, when it comes to transfers wee are on a roundabout that just keeps going round and we can't get off. The years are passing, players that we are targeting are getting older and we keep being linked to the same shit names (Dzeko, Giroud these rumours started again) while our management blindly elect to follow Conte and adjust their sights in relation to new player targets. I honestly thought that with Tonali and Kumballa in our sights that we were taking steps to build for the future. But instead, we are turning into a retirement village for old players to receive a nice pension.

I find our new transfer policy absolutely underwhelming and completely depressing.
 

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I feel with Conte, when it comes to transfers wee are on a roundabout that just keeps going round and we can't get off. The years are passing, players that we are targeting are getting older and we keep being linked to the same shit names (Dzeko, Giroud these rumours started again) while our management blindly elect to follow Conte and adjust their sights in relation to new player targets. I honestly thought that with Tonali and Kumballa in our sights that we were taking steps to build for the future. But instead, we are turning into a retirement village for old players to receive a nice pension.

I find our new transfer policy absolutely underwhelming and completely depressing.
Didnt you guys sign Barella, Bastoni and Sensi last year and Hakimi this year?

I dont really see where you are only signing old players tbh.

I can see Conte's logic in the sense that he needs a bonafide top player in midfield as there isnt one there yet. Maybe he just felt Tonali is too green.

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OK now we lose Tonali to freakin Milan, yes this freakin Milan that I hate... its so fuckin disappointing.
Let's try to be positive here, I might gonna regret in saying this but Tonali might not having a great higher ceiling that I thought of.

Ok now we move on, if by signing Kante or/and Ndombele (or even Vidal, yes fuck him) mean we are having bigger chance to be scudetto this year, yes so be it, I'm ok with that.

I may have lost my trust to Conte a bit, but I still optimist we can get the scudetto this year if we sign those experience players.
We might going to have hardtime to get rid of them in 2-3 years, but yea so be it for this year scudetto.

Peace..
 

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Didnt you guys sign Barella, Bastoni and Sensi last year and Hakimi this year?

I dont really see where you are only signing old players tbh.

I can see Conte's logic in the sense that he needs a bonafide top player in midfield as there isnt one there yet. Maybe he just felt Tonali is too green.

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Those signings came pre-hissy fit and pre-meeting with Zhang. After that meeting this past Tuesday, the names we heard being liked to Inter took a complete 180 to fucking Vidal and Dzeko and Darmian for the 100th times. It seems pretty obvious what happened in that meeting and it's fucking irritating. Conte couldn't give two fucks about the long-term health of the club because he won't be around for it. And that's fine in and of itself, but that's what Marotta and Ausilio are around to take care of. Conte being a whiny brat, and Zhang bending over for him, compromises all of that.
 

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Didnt you guys sign Barella, Bastoni and Sensi last year and Hakimi this year?

I dont really see where you are only signing old players tbh.

I can see Conte's logic in the sense that he needs a bonafide top player in midfield as there isnt one there yet. Maybe he just felt Tonali is too green.

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Bastoni was signed as 17 18 year old. And now hes better than Romagnoli!!

Had to stick it to you, Ash.

Signed : bitter Tonali fan :yao:
 

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Didnt you guys sign Barella, Bastoni and Sensi last year and Hakimi this year?

I dont really see where you are only signing old players tbh.

I can see Conte's logic in the sense that he needs a bonafide top player in midfield as there isnt one there yet. Maybe he just felt Tonali is too green.

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The problem is we are heavily linked with two 32+ year olds. If Conte wants experience and/or grinta, than him and the club should know that isn't exclusive to vidal and kolarov. There are other ways to get the player profiles Conte may want and it should be common sense to not hunt down a 33-year old Vidal who is definitely slowing down AND seeing more injuries in his career now.

And I believe kolarov is self explanatory. He has no right wearing an Inter shirt.

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After these abysmal tranfer choices and targets (if the media is to be believed), good luck to the management "protecting" him whenever the media mentions Scudetto and us in the same sentence.
 

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Which young player have we sold? The only ones we have sold were Locatelli (who didnt want to be a rotation player), Djalo (Leao deal) and Cutrone (plusvalenza)

If anything, we are getting rid of our deadweight and older players. We have already let go the likes of Biglia, Bonaventura, RR and Reina. The only 30+ players on our squad are Ibra, Kjaer, Donna Sr and Musacchio (who would have been sold too had he not been injured). Both Kjaer and Ibra have proven vital to the team and thats why they are here.

Our mercato last season was:

Theo (21)
Bennacer (21)
Duarte (23)
Saelemakers (20)
Rebic (25)
Krunic (25)
Leao (20)
Ibra (38)
Luan (19)
Kjaer (31)

This season so far:

Kalulu (20)
Roback (17)
Tonali (20) - rumored
Brahim (21) - rumored
Bakayoko (26) - rumored
Aurier (27) - rumored
Pobega (21) - loan return

Then there are links to the likes of Chiesa (22), Szobo (19), Milenkovic (22), Ajer (22), Fofana (19), Florentino (21).

If anything, we are going for a healthy balance of experienced players with promising youth prospects. Not going for a full scale youth project was probably one of the reasons why we didnt end up going with Rangnick (who didnt want Ibra and Kjaer in the team). Maldini is going for a hybrid and looking to build on the growth of the last season by reinforcing the weak areas of the squad.

The team Maldini is building is not for the scudetto but to reach the CL. Also Elliot doesnt intend to keep Milan for a long time. But they need to make it attractive enough for a potential buyer hence the youth investment.

Inter on the other hand is targeting scudetto which is why Conte wants more experienced players (ala champions). Probs why they passed on Tonali.

Also in my opinion, Tonali would get playing time at Milan as he would be rotating with Baka, Kessie and Bennacer.

I reckon that Inter withdrew from the race to prioritise proven champions like Vidal as they already have too many midfielders in the squad. They would have probably been in the race had they managed to sell some of their existing midfielders.








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You havent sold them because they simply havent been good enough to be sold.Now you have a few players that in the future will be sold to keep you afloat if you dont make UCL.Donnarumma and Theo will definitely be sold soon to finance your future mercatos and especially if you miss the UCL.
 

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Yeah okay have your meltdowns and over reactions now.

Conte and Inter are aiming to win the league.

Ac Milan are aiming to develop young talents and selling them on to make money to buy more young players to sell them on and on.I'd rather we now get experienced champions here and dont become the Italian Ajax.We have enough young ones here already.Please trust the people who have ensured 3 years of UCL football and calm yo titties.

I really wonder ... Who are all those young players everybody is talking about? Let's see ...

21yo: Bastoni
23yo: Barella
23yo: Martinez

That's it. Sensi is 25. Since when is a 25yo a young footballer? I'd even say 23 years isn't that young anymore, especially when you're going into your third (Martinez) or fifth (Barella, who also has some Serie B experience) Seria A season. Well, of course you can dream of Esposito and Agoume, but I doubt they'll get a real chance from Conte. In the end Conto will be gone and we have to pay for old has-beens.

Edit: Sorry, forgot Hakimi.
 

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I for one sure as shit am not gonna criticize any body for passing up on tonali would i have prefered him over Vidal? Yes...
But lets be real here tonali has not proven shit till this day players that were more impressive in serie a at small clubs and amounted to nothing: Aquilani, Montolivo, Pizarro and the list goes on. I know they were not as young as him.
Kids a 50/50 gamble at best, also hilarious to see people lose their shit over not signing him wand one year back same people thought we re over paying for barella.

On top of all that it s not as if the kids gonna stay at BBilan if he s good i d guess he ll be out of there within 2 to 3 years we can still try again then.
 

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I for one sure as shit am not gonna criticize any body for passing up on tonali would i have prefered him over Vidal? Yes...
But lets be real here tonali has not proven shit till this day players that were more impressive in serie a at small clubs and amounted to nothing: Aquilani, Montolivo, Pizarro and the list goes on. I know they were not as young as him.
Kids a 50/50 gamble at best, also hilarious to see people lose their shit over not signing him wand one year back same people thought we re over paying for barella.

On top of all that it s not as if the kids gonna stay at BBilan if he s good i d guess he ll be out of there within 2 to 3 years we can still try again then.
Had he proven something already, he would cost 80 mln at least. The thing about him is, he has everything to prove himself in a big club given the right circumstances (coach, team, fitness).

We can only hope milan flops yet again and by the week 15 they sack Pioli and hire Spalletti, who will play Biglia or whoever they have, only to finish 6th as usual. Then they will probably won't be able to redeem him, but the question is, do you need that 21 old footballer, who didn't improve in his last season and affected by a wrong environment? Of course I don't wish this to him but this is one of likely scenarios.
 
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