Antonio Conte

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Hmm.... :yao:


Anyway, it feels funny how everyone here has turned on Conte over one game. Prior to that everyone was so ecstatic to have him win the Scudetto that would be handed by Agnelli after the Pirlo appointment, praised for succeeding with his experiment of Gagliardini starting every game, praised for the league table finish, praised many things. Yet, one game, even if it's a final against a respectable team, and poof. It's gone.

Does this show how little faith people have in him? That maybe they never wanted him to be here to begin with and just played along because it was popular by the barking brigade? Or did they just realize that this is who he is as a coach and don't appreciate his limitations and how this may affect our future if he's still around.

Anyway, I've been accused of many things which are fucking ridiculous as people don't even pay attention to what is written and just pretend that because I said something sometime, that's the only thing I think. Or that because Suning was stupid enough to hire a gobbo that I suddenly surrended my love for Inter... I endured fucking Lippi, why wouldn't I endure Conte in far more favorable conditions? The only thing that's different is that I don't let feelings get in the way, as bizarre as this sounds. I've been steady in my view because I know the plot. On the other hand, the "logical" people seemed to support Conte all the way but after one freaking game, our biggest since the CL final 10 years ago, everyone wants to get rid of the guy :lol: Maybe if you stopped having mood swings all the time you'd be able to keep up with my views and stop harassing me and mentioning me after every second fucking post... And maybe you'd be more respectful to everyone else if you did just that.

As for Conte, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Inter should be prepared for everything and we don't have that much time. If they want Allegri because it's the simplest way to go forward, then go for it. Just don't hijack the club's future by giving enormous salaries to people that do not belong here.

Who are the logical people that want to get rid of him? I've been with him all the way because the progress we've made with him has been completely undeniable as we have just had hands down our best season in 10 years.
My feelings here are if Conte wants to leave then as disappointing as it is he can go.
I haven't seen any "logical" posters saying he should be sacked. On the contrary, I've seen many many people saying they hope he stays but if he wants to leave what can you do.

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Yeah that is true. I'm sad we lost the final, the manner we did it and the chance we had there (we had better odds winning it). Anyway, the season can still be attributed as a pretty good one. 2nd place and EL final.

But then, all this is shadowed by this fucking drama over Conte and what he said after the match. AGAIN. So frustrating tbh.

It's annoying as shit. But all the talk is about conte. Very little about our players shitting themselves, about lukakus own goal etc
 

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It's annoying as shit. But all the talk is about conte. Very little about our players shitting themselves, about lukakus own goal etc

Good point. It's not a one-man's mistake. Conte has his share of mistakes in the final, but so do the players. Lukaku's own goal and missing a couple and individual defensive blunders on the goals just to name a few. All of them where match-deciding moments and we know that's how it works in a knock-out tournament. You can't make mistakes and you need some luck.
 

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I’m fine if he goes or stays. The progress we have made this year is obviously phenomenal and we’ll only get better next year but the manner in which we lost yesterday was unacceptable and without a doubt all on Conte. The EXACT same thing happened against Getafe, we crumbled and we were tiring and he still refused to make any changes until Getafe got a pen and luckily they missed. Dumbo and Gags should have not set foot on the pitch after the horror first half they both had.

I genuinely believe Conte suffers from some superstitious bullshit, as in we’ve been winning with this same lineup so keep it until we’re losing. Oh if I sub on Eriksen or Moses now we’re gonna concede. No other valid reason whatsoever, you’re telling me it was clear to see for everyone watching but Conte? Literally the 2 pages on the match thread before we conceded were all make some subs Conte. Just unacceptable
 

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The way Conte played this final tells me a lot about him as a coach. It's not about losing, any top coach will lose. It's about not playing your best players and going for the kill from the first minute. It's about speculating with the result in a match of this caliber. It's about always reacting, and not taking the control of the match when it demands it. It's about making substitution with 3 attacking players in the 77th minute, after we've received a goal many of us saw coming. It's about playing 4 defensive midfielders instead of dominating the match with attacking players. Because some of us don't want Conte to stay here doesnt make us 'ilogical', it makes us extremely disappointed on someone who is so stubborn, that he will never try something different even if that costs him and us, an European Cup.
 

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Even as Conte fan i always knew the risk that he could leave after 2-3 seaons, like at Chelsea and Juve. But i would accept it, at the end there are not much coachs like Kloop or Fergunson that would stay for many years. But i never expected he would leave already after one season, it's really suprising i have to say.
 

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Yeah, I would have thought next summer. Two seasons some outbursts and shit, but good results. This one season shit really blows to everyone's faces, specially Marotta's. I hope we keep him despite if Conte quits.
 

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Hopefully in a few days, calmer heads will prevail and this Conte project can continue. It was a poor performance yesterday, but we all know that this team is very much WIP. 2nd place and EL final is more than any of us expected when the season started, so its been good progress. We need to continue down this path and see how far this project can grow.
 

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I never wanted us to lose, I was pulling my hair at the incompetence of Conte during the match, it was just fucking infuriating.

Just because what I predicted was going to happen happened didn't make me happy, on the contrary it made me ten times more furious.

It's just insane how retarded and stubborn Conte is.

for what it is worth, i'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, despite your constant flaming in this thread. but you are definitely not being honest in your attitude towards conte, i mentioned for example how you were quick at pointing out that we conceded more goals than under spalletti in serie A, but it was only 3 goals, against an incredibly better attack.

we have made progress this season, which of course doesn't mean conte was perfect.
 

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If Juve and Real Madrid are smart and brave enough to hire Zidane and Pirlo respectively, why can't Inter do the same and hire Cambiasso. I assure you, he won't and can't do worse than Spalletti or Conte and he is at least an Inter legend. Furthermore, we will save a lot of money and for once will be bringing someone who knows and cares about Inter and knows what a quality midfield is and not just link it with a dying player like nainnggolan for Spalletti and Vidal for Conte.
 

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If Juve and Real Madrid are smart and brave enough to hire Zidane and Pirlo respectively, why can't Inter do the same and hire Cambiasso. I assure you, he won't and can't do worse than Spalletti or Conte and he is at least an Inter legend. Furthermore, we will save a lot of money and for once will be bringing someone who knows and cares about Inter and knows what a quality midfield is and not just link it with a dying player like nainnggolan for Spalletti and Vidal for Conte.

I assure you, he can do worse.
 

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Hopefully in a few days, calmer heads will prevail and this Conte project can continue. It was a poor performance yesterday, but we all know that this team is very much WIP. 2nd place and EL final is more than any of us expected when the season started, so its been good progress. We need to continue down this path and see how far this project can grow.

I usually agree with you. But in the second half of the season Conte almost disappeared. Don't be deceiced by the two matches Inter won in the Eurpa league. One thing Conte seems to have his motivational talk and this doesn't last long. If he wants to leave Marotta should pressure to agree to rescind the contract. There is no way Conte can win anything because he isn't patient and wants players who are reay to win and we have seens how Godin experience didn't help much. Barca had his Vidal and Messi and why didn't it win la liga. Conte and Spalletti are still living in the past. The last thing I want at Inter is another Italian coach.
 

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I assure you, he can do worse.
exactly. its like all the juve fans saying pirlo is a safe bet because he cant do any worse. Trust me, he can.
 

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I’m fine if he goes or stays. The progress we have made this year is obviously phenomenal and we’ll only get better next year but the manner in which we lost yesterday was unacceptable and without a doubt all on Conte. The EXACT same thing happened against Getafe, we crumbled and we were tiring and he still refused to make any changes until Getafe got a pen and luckily they missed. Dumbo and Gags should have not set foot on the pitch after the horror first half they both had.

I genuinely believe Conte suffers from some superstitious bullshit, as in we’ve been winning with this same lineup so keep it until we’re losing. Oh if I sub on Eriksen or Moses now we’re gonna concede. No other valid reason whatsoever, you’re telling me it was clear to see for everyone watching but Conte? Literally the 2 pages on the match thread before we conceded were all make some subs Conte. Just unacceptable

I feel exactly the same. If he wants to stay, good as we have already started a project with him, there was a progress this season and a big part of the squad is already suited to him. But if he wants to leave, the door is open. We can't and shouldn't satisfy every whim of his in order to make him stay.
 

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I assure you, he can do worse.
How do you know? But regardless, at least we would have saved a lot on money and Cambiasso is fast learner unlike Conte or Spalletti.
 

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It’s interesting how this forum has become by far the most polarized in all my time being here whilst we have just had our best season simce my being on it.
 

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How do you know? But regardless, at least we would have saved a lot on money and Cambiasso is fast learner unlike Conte or Spalletti.


How do you know he cant do any worse? The average coach appointed without experience is a fucking disaster. Look at Milan over the last few years. Zidane and Guardiola are exceptions to the rule, and even then they have a few years of youth coaching under their belt.

I cant think of the last time a coach was appointed to the first team without ANY PRIOR COACHING experience of a big club - Seedorf jumps out to me, but him aside, even Brocchi, Montella, etc, all had some experience before taking on the main role at Milan.

A lot of fans here were pissed off with last night because we struggled with tactical adaptation to our opponents - a coach with literally no coaching experience is gonna be far worse at that than a coach with some experience.


Inter isnt a club you learn to coach at. If we want Cambiasso to be an Inter coach one day, he should take charge of someone like AC Prato now, do 2-3 seasons well there, get into a Serie A side for 2 years, then move to Inter. This counter-culture fad of appointing big name ex-players is just asking for trouble imho.
 

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first off, speculating on the likes of pochettino, cambiasso or others is, well, just speculating. we can do it because forums exist for people to discuss stuff, but reality says that if conte leaves, we have already picked allegri as his successor.

regarding cambiasso, he would be a bet like pirlo. their footballing intelligence suggests that they can indeed be good coaches, but how good we don't know, as they haven't coached a team so far.

and as for any rookie in any job, even if their potential is great, it will take some time before they learn the ropes.

in a few months we will find out about pirlo, so far cambiasso doesn't have a bench.
 

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How do you know? But regardless, at least we would have saved a lot on money and Cambiasso is fast learner unlike Conte or Spalletti.

How do you know that he's a fast learner?
 

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If Juve and Real Madrid are smart and brave enough to hire Zidane and Pirlo respectively, why can't Inter do the same and hire Cambiasso. I assure you, he won't and can't do worse than Spalletti or Conte and he is at least an Inter legend. Furthermore, we will save a lot of money and for once will be bringing someone who knows and cares about Inter and knows what a quality midfield is and not just link it with a dying player like nainnggolan for Spalletti and Vidal for Conte.

For every Zidane there is like 10 or more Henrys so let's not fuck this chance up. Next year is very favorable to us given that Pirlo has 0 experience coaching so let's stick with Allegri who has proven over and over that hes a winner (arguement often made for Conte).
 
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