Antonio Conte

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Didier Deschamps
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Josep Guardiola
Carlo Ancelotti (just 1 Serie B season before joining Parma that were challenging in Europe and Italy)
Zinedine Zidane
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Ramon Diaz (won Libertadores in his first season)
Marcelo Gallardo (started in Uruguay, won the league in his first season, left, moved to River in 2014 and is still there and he is amongst the most successful coaches in the club's history)
Louis Van Gaal (first managerial job ever at Ajax he was like "you just hired the best manager in the world". And he probably is the best coach of that decade)
Giovanni Trapattoni (got the Milan job after being an assistant or youth manager for a year or something, moved to Juventus the year after and became a legend)
Jupp Heynckes (got the Gladbach job almost immediately after retiring as a football player, stayed there for almost 10 years, rest is history)
Dino Zoff (coached the Olympic side in 1988 then moved to Juventus, without prior coaching experience for those 5 years. Ended up winning the Uefa Cup in 1990)
Ruud Gullit (player-manager at Chelsea in the years where the PL was closer to the MLS than the Bundesliga, but still not a small feat)


Guys like Antonio Conte, Luis Enrique, Diego Simeone had some decent or even bad experiences before joining their former (top) club and ended up being considered great.

Most of the best coaches in the world are former players who either got an easy way to a top because of where they played. Not that many actually climb some managerial ladder. Gennaro Gattuso had no business being in Serie A, but Milan was a mess and they were like "here, have a shot, since everything else fails". Now he's managed to win the Coppa Italia with another Serie A club. The guy should have been in the 2nd tier of a shitty league based on achievement prior to the Milan job.

Conte as well, sort of failed everywhere but Juventus wanted to hire someone they knew well and was cheap enough to help them build a stronger team and they had no regrets. It's all about timing. Zenga at Inter could have been legendary, but you only see him at shit clubs and he fails. It's a different animal. Conte at shit clubs was crap as well but here he is earning 11m a year only because his former club, at the right time, gave him the job. Had we gotten Zenga after Mourinho he may have won a Champions League within a couple of seasons, who knows... It's one thing to manage Zanetti, Maicon, Eto'o, Milito, Sneijder, Samuel and Cambiasso and another to coach a bunch of unambitious nobodies.


The difference with Pirlo is that he was a locker room jester, not a leader. And his personality is not that of a charismatic leader, but rather an easy going, introverted, fun character. Deschamps, Guardiola, Simeone, Conte etc were all what you call leaders. You don't need this type, but it's more likely to succeed.
 

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According to Sky, Antonio Conte and the Inter management are going to meet on Tuesday to discuss about the future.
 

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How do you know that he's a fast learner?

There is one way to find out. I think he is worth a try. What do we lose by hiring him? This mentality needs to change. Younger players and younger coaches aren’t given a chance at Inter. Good luck with wining anything with Allegri or his type.
 

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Actually I have hard time believing Conte would just resign. He has 2x 12m€ net salary incoming. Would he leave that money? Why the fuck would he do that?

But, it's bad for Inter if he stays just for the money. If there is something in the club which simply cannot be fixed to satisfy the coach, it's not going to end well. It might be he wants to get the sacking because he knows he can't get everything he wants, but I doubt Inter is going to give it to him, it's simply too expensive. And it might end up being a long legal battle.

I really, really hope they can find the common ground and Conte just starts to tolerate the imperfections in the club. It's certain we cannot give him EVERYTHING he wants. It's simply not possible and wouldn't make any sense even if it was.

My priorities are:
1. Conte stays after they've found a common ground
2. Conte resigns / contract terminated based on just cause (statements after Atalanta) and Allegri comes in
3. Conte stays "reluctantly", just for the money, heart not in the project anymore

3rd is obviously the worst.

This situation sucks so hard because it's not even a normal off-season. It's 1 month before the start of the new one and players need vacation etc.

I'm not worried about the 3rd. That won't happen. Conte has that attitude, that he will give it his all. He isn't one who will continue in a job half hearted.

It's either a continuation or a mutual termination.

I'm now not so sure about the continuation. Only way that can work for Inter is if Conte internalizes his faults, and personally works to overcome them. He has to fucking accept that the loss was 100% on him.

At the same time, Inter should go to its roots. I want an international manager. Allegri is good, you know what you'll get with him. But I want a Pazza Inter. Not some fucking boring guy who knows his job, but doesn't bring any excitement to it.

Get me that Asado Pochettino. Let him find his mission here.
 

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Lol at people who want to make an honest woman out of Conte who was never wife material.

Can’t marry a stripper
 

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I have never watched a full Inter match for 3 years because I keep seeing signs that show that the coach is either blind or he is a fool. I don’t get all the hype for Conte. I still see about 10 minutes of the match and get the feeling that it will go south either because of his full trust in Brozo, Dambro, Valero or Candreva. I’d never hesitate a second to let him go if he wants to quit if I were steven Zgang.
 
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Brehme, he said managers with no prior coaching experience. Almost every person you listed had some form of coaching experience before being appointed at a major club. Whether 1 year or 5 years, youth or senior team, most still had some kind of experience.
 

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Brehme, he said managers with no prior coaching experience. Almost every person you listed had some form of coaching experience before being appointed at a major club. Whether 1 year or 5 years, youth or senior team, most still had some kind of experience.

Please challenge this. There's maybe like 3 of them on the list that fit what you said.

And I wasn't replying to anyone, I just made a list of "inexperienced managers" who landed a great job very soon in their careers, or instantly.
 

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So turns out i was right from the get go conte is a good coach simply not for inter he does not have the mentality for it. Dude is complaining about mgm not protecting him enough when this was one of the most quiet seasons we had in terms of media bs and squad infights. As i said earlier this aint jube and it never will be an environnement like jube unless the zhangs buy of 90% of italy.

From a coaching point of view he did a great job but this fucken whining and questioning his stay at the club et the end of the reg season and now after EL is annoying as fuck and we re gonna see the same shit next year.

Also what is he asking for we modeled the team to his liking he got most of his wishes wtf is the problem? Again it s simply not possible or realistic to expect that inter gets the same treatment in italy as jube does and there is nothing mgm can do about it.

Would i fire him? Probably no cause we built a squad for him that imho is close to challenge for titles and if we now switch coach again chances are we re starting over again. That being said even if he stays i dont see this last longer than 1 more season either he s gonna lose his shit again when we dont win a trophy and zhang will have had enough of his bs or hell resign after winning cause he did his job but he does not wanna stay here longer.

Everything being said Fuck Antonio Conte and his fucking jubentino behaviour
 

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According to Sky, Antonio Conte and the Inter management are going to meet on Tuesday to discuss about the future.

We don't have time to wait to Tuesday. Why can't this be done earlier. Fuck sake
 

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We don't have time to wait to Tuesday. Why can't this be done earlier. Fuck sake

This is the inter way. Meeting on tuesay, decision on friday, but will probably be delayed until monday. New coach announced on thursday and then 14 days for the league to start without a clear plan.

Ohh and lets not forget about all the players we need and need to get rid off. Looks like another fun year.
 

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Allegri over Conte is not an upgrade maybe we can wait for one more season until a better option comes around..
 

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I am afraid Pochettino might not be interested in Inter. We got Conte because of Marotta, not because Inter attracted him.

I feel it's quite probable that people outside of Inter-verse still look at us as a shitty club.

Conte is at the moment the absolute best we can do imo
 

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I am afraid Pochettino might not be interested in Inter. We got Conte because of Marotta, not because Inter attracted him.

I feel it's quite probable that people outside of Inter-verse still look at us as a shitty club.

Conte is at the moment the absolute best we can do imo

We got Conte because we offered him a salary no other club would dare pay
 

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According to Sky, Antonio Conte and the Inter management are going to meet on Tuesday to discuss about the future.

Why so early?! Let's wait till Christmas for God's sake! They should have met yesterday and kept or fired Conte. We don't have any time as the new season is knocking on the door. Especially if we're about to change the coach.
 

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From football Italia:

It happened in November, when newspaper reports emerged that Conte had received an anonymous letter containing a bullet, with threats aimed at him, his family and his staff.
conte’s wife, Elisabetta Muscarello, wrote on Facebook that the story was “absolute rubbish! We’re in bad shape in Italy, when people can just wake up, write anything they want and not think about the consequences!”
It turns out, the letter had been sent to the Inter training ground and Conte had evidently tried to keep it a secret from his family, so as not to worry them.
The leak about the threat therefore came from within the club and Conte never forgave them for that lack of discretion.

That's it?

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Don't get me wrong, he has every right to be pissed, but no right to bail out on the $200M plus investment we've put in him. If he's so worried about safety, he can easily hire a couple of ex-Mossad bodyguards with that 12M we're giving him. Beyond ridiculous.

There is one way to find out. I think he is worth a try. What do we lose by hiring him? This mentality needs to change. Younger players and younger coaches aren’t given a chance at Inter. Good luck with wining anything with Allegri or his type.

Remember when Cuchu got booed off the pitch versus Catania and started crying? He wouldn't last five minutes as coach.
 

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Whoever the manager is, there will always be complaints towards them. People here are never ever be satisfied. Trust me, Sometimes I feel like people here have the capability to become a very awesome football manager because they have lots of knowledge and very certain about their arguments. But At the end, they are still here, and they are still here only as a fan.

Now, with the new manager, Either we are doing better or worse comparing the previous seasons, and Even though we have the scudetto, there are people who will always be complaining about anything. It's always like that. And hey that is normal.

We have to trust new the manager whoever that is appointed by Marotta or the management. They are the one who work for Inter, not us. We are just fans.

To be honest, if its for me, I just want a stability in this club, we have to trust the manager even though they are stubborn, or even we are in 6th position of the table. We have to be patient. Progress needs time.

I was very sceptical when the first time I know Conte was appointed, but slowly I can see the progress and I can see he really wants to win with Inter (yes despite lot of error here and there), but I like his passion and looks like the players like him as well. That is enough for me. It is not an easy project, especially with the pressure and the money that the club spent for him and the players.

But if his decision is to leave then we cannot stop him as it means he doesn't have the passion for winning with Inter anymore.

To be honest I am sceptical with Allegri as well, but we will see. One thing for sure, there will year zero again, and there will be people here complaining about him either he win or lose the game again. For me, I'm just a fan and I just want to enjoy the game.
 

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I am afraid Pochettino might not be interested in Inter. We got Conte because of Marotta, not because Inter attracted him.

I feel it's quite probable that people outside of Inter-verse still look at us as a shitty club.

Conte is at the moment the absolute best we can do imo

If Pochettino wants to work next season. Inter would probably be his best option. He was hoping for the Man Utd job but it doesn't look like this is going to happen. He was overlooked by Barca. He was too expensive for Juve. The only other alternative he may have is PSG though i doubt the Qataris will fire Tuchel after reaching CL final.
 

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If he stays can't wait to see what will be the reason to create drama next year.
 

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I thought his approach to Sevilla was rather naive. He assumed we'd just shut them down like we did with Shakhtar. But Sevilla have much better wing play and more creative players. We didn't try to take control of the game when we had the chance-- our response to the game in motion was much more reactive than proactive. It cost us.

Still I won't take anything away from his work over the span of the season. We improved a lot considering our finals in the past 2 seasons were saving face games for 4th place.
 
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