Andrea Stramaccioni

[MANTA]

theres plenty of good coaches out there. one just needs to look hard enough. if strama doesnt get 2nd place imo he should be out. idc about 3rd place we might be fucked in the playoffs.

and some decisions are made halfway through the season, i.e. lucio leaving it was pretty clear, and tons of other treble players.

Ill take Michael Cox imo. Im sure he wont demand a lot of money

If you look at the article I posted, it shows that who the coach is doesn't really matter. Given the team we have at our disposal we are expected to be around third place, and that is where we are. The difference another coach will make is maybe with another coach the Livaja chance would have gone in and we would be second.

Still early on in the season, given a longer time frame those unlucky chances end up going in instead and we are back to the CL spot.

 

[Fapuccino]

It matters very much who the coach is. Because with each one you can point to individual mistakes.

Benitez - Overexauhsted all our players, who were old farts. He relied too much on pressing
Leonardo - Good attacking coach, defence was shambles. Pushed his defence way too far up the field, and never realized his mistake.
Gasperini - wrong system. pretty much the same problem as benitez.
Ranieri - Cant remember what he did wrong, only that I was extremely pissed off at him by the end.

Strama - restored defensive sanity, but midfield has 0 cohesion. over relies too much on forwards.

In todays game he shouldnt have played 4-2-4. you need ball players in the centre, with this formation. shoulda just stuck to 3-4-3 and relied on pereira and zanetti to stretch the play. yea ik, not the best personnel but better than 4-2-4

 

[andrei]

Man, don't take it personal but what a shit are you talking. Zanetti and Pereira to stretch the play. They barely can stretch their pants.
This 4-2-4 how you say should have in theory stretch their defence. Unfortunately their CM outmuscled ours and dictated the tempo. That' why Chivu stepped in as a DM, to overcome their superiority in midfield. And why to play 3-4-3 with 3 DM when Genoa had played with one CF (Immobile).

The main shit is that our midfielders are not good enough to play only two of them. In everybody combination they are fast always outplayed by the opponents. And our wings are nonexistent when we want to play 3-4-3 maybe exept Naga.
I'm sorry but our material nobody could do much better.

 

[Nyall]

Was I really this annoying last year? Because all these guys seem to do is repeat this ridiculous nonsense over and over again. Guys it's Saturday night, go out, have fun, get laid or something... We understand you guys don't like Strama and have all the answers to all our problems, but do you guys really need to come here and pretty much spam Strama's page everytime we don't win a game 5-0?

 

[n4l]

Honestly, I don't think strama is to blame for anything at all. This is classic culture pressure.

If Inter management really wanted us to be like a fiorentina/roma/juve(last season) where it's really a "year zero" and giving the coach freedom to work on a system, that would be communicated clearly with the coach. It our leadership and culture that is so focused on results that has created this pressure on strama.

As i said before, something happened with strama during the summer/beginning of the season with relations with the management. He is not the same strama of last season, who had very clear ideas, had his "brand" of football, and was doing the job. After 2-3 games, Inter were playing "strama football" and hence we were all extremely enthused about a "project". I don't think even the staunchest "positivers" on the forum will disagree that the strama of last season is clearly not the same as strama this season.

Strama in no way should be fired. If our management is serious about a genuine project though, they need to communicate this better with strama and let him rekindle the strama of last season.


Lastly, people need to stop talking about our squad and blaming the squad personnel as the reason for our shitty tactics. Our personnel should only be a problem when playing against the better teams in Europe; the barca's, bayern's e.t.c. Let me say this in bold...

STRAMA ALREADY PROVED LAST SEASON THAT IT IS NOT THE SQUAD.

He was able to average 57% possession and 6 more shots last season with a shittier team. Period.

 

[MANTA]

It matters very much who the coach is. Because with each one you can point to individual mistakes.

Benitez - Overexauhsted all our players, who were old farts. He relied too much on pressing
Leonardo - Good attacking coach, defence was shambles. Pushed his defence way too far up the field, and never realized his mistake.
Gasperini - wrong system. pretty much the same problem as benitez.
Ranieri - Cant remember what he did wrong, only that I was extremely pissed off at him by the end.

Strama - restored defensive sanity, but midfield has 0 cohesion. over relies too much on forwards.

In todays game he shouldnt have played 4-2-4. you need ball players in the centre, with this formation. shoulda just stuck to 3-4-3 and relied on pereira and zanetti to stretch the play. yea ik, not the best personnel but better than 4-2-4

Todays game he had 3 midfielders to choose from and played all of them, despite the fact that Gargano and Cambiasso came into the match hurt and both barely passed the fitness test. And Alvarez was injured in 15 minutes.

We never had midfielders throughout the entire first half of the season. Obi, Mariga and Stankovic have been injured all season, and Mudingayi and Alvarez have been out nearly all season. Lets not forget Sneijder's injuries plus management trouble. That leaves only three midfielders (Gargano/Cuchu/Guarin) that were consistantly available for the coach. 3 out of 9. So they have to play despite form or pain without much rest. Is it really fair to judge a coach's ability in handling such a midfield?

Any coach you get who comes under the same situation will have the same trouble.

We all talk about wanting a project yet are ready to write it off after less than half a season. Give Strama a couple of years and see what he can do, then maybe we would have seen enough to judge him. Instead of wasting money juggling coaches lets just get some players that the team needs.

 

[Fapuccino]

Tbh, I just saw the game. Couldnt blame Strama too much. The only thing I can blame him for is that he was the one who asked for signings in the beginning of the season, and yet still went with defensive midfielders, like Mudingayi and Gargano. Failing to adress issues.

My 2 cents on the game

Cassano is for the small games, Milito for the big - Cassano can work in tight spaces, Milito can't. Cassano repeatedly found some pocket of space on the left, and crossed from there. He did this over and over until we got a goal this way. If we had a good tall striker, we would have been ahead since the beginning. Too bad Milito isnt that striker, and Cambiasso is a better header of the ball.

Gargano and Pereira improving on the ball. Pereira with some good crosses, while Gargano did a nice job of distribution. However, he sucks at defence splitting passes.



I honestly don't see what Strama could have done in this case. All the other games I blame him, but today it was sad to see Chivu as the main DM and Gargano and Cambi pushing forward in order to create something.

We need a strong central midfield, players who can hold the ball, and we can push the forwards forward. What we're doing is giving the ball to the forwards, and they're too far from goal, and what often ends up happening is a backpass, or Cassano getting fouled.

What Guarin is good at, and also Boateng is this type of player, is driving the ball forward. Either by sprinting or strong passes. Some people do it through passes, some players like Guarin and Boateng do it through running. But he was missing today.

Again, it goes back to weak central midfield, not defensively, but on the ball.

 

[Uncommon]

They won't listen N4L. No matter how many times you or me highlight what a horrible job management and our current coach is doing they just won't. Either they don't look at football the same way or they are naive.

I have given up, I have simply given up. I am wasting my time when I type posts analysing this. So are you, because they will read your post, and go right back into some nonsensical cycle and excuses and hope posts like we are in Church begging for a happy sermon.

The fuck you on about? The difference about you and N4L is that he actually knows whats going on, you THINK you do. And saying Ricky should be sold/Lemon is the most useless transfer since Quaresma/Fuck Strama etc. after each game isn't fucking analizying.

I am sure everyone here holds N4L opinion in highest regards (agree or not, that's a different matter), while when you post, people get cancer. The first step if you want people to take you seriously is chance your font, until you don't, you are just an a attention whore.

Oh and this is just icing on the cake:

Honestly, I don't think strama is to blame for anything at all. This is classic culture pressure.

Strama in no way should be fired. If our management is serious about a genuine project though, they need to communicate this better with strama and let him rekindle the strama of last season.

 

[I4E]

Was I really this annoying last year? Because all these guys seem to do is repeat this ridiculous nonsense over and over again. Guys it's Saturday night, go out, have fun, get laid or something... We understand you guys don't like Strama and have all the answers to all our problems, but do you guys really need to come here and pretty much spam Strama's page everytime we don't win a game 5-0?

You've changed man, you've changed.


I just can't be fucked posting about the squad/manager/how we play/how we should play etc etc. So many people here have a 'perfect world/computer game' mentality about how the club and football works and don't realize the realities of it.

 

[Wallace]

Yeah, we should ban tactical talks on this forum.

 

[I4E]

Yeah, we should ban tactical talks on this forum.

Nothing wrong with tactical talks. But when they elude to 'it's managements fault, Fuck Branca, sack Strama and we shouldn't have sold Eto' it just becomes a shitstain of a discussion.

I think both Manta and N4L touched on the fact that there is nothing wrong with the squad. in context of where the club is, everything from a footballing point of view is moving with extreme caution. From transfers, wages to the way we approach games.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Strama is employed to get results ! Not entertain ! and right now the results are by far more important.

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We all talk about wanting a project yet are ready to write it off after less than half a season.

:thumbsup: :star:

Impatient people MANTA

 

[Suneet]

Strama should be fired?!! WTF is wrong with Interisti? The one coach who has shown that he can be tactically decent and motivate a bunch of guys older than him to play at 100%! Really?


Thank you for keeping up the sanity n4l. We dont agree most of the times recently, but this one I'm with you infiniti percent.

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Also Rome wasnt built in a day.

 

[Ronaldo]

The fuck you on about? The difference about you and N4L is that he actually knows whats going on, you THINK you do. And saying Ricky should be sold/Lemon is the most useless transfer since Quaresma/Fuck Strama etc. after each game isn't fucking analizying.

I am sure everyone here holds N4L opinion in highest regards (agree or not, that's a different matter), while when you post, people get cancer. The first step if you want people to take you seriously is chance your font, until you don't, you are just an a attention whore.

Oh and this is just icing on the cake:

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Devious]

Give me your number and I`ll teach you how to say it better.

 

[.h.]

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[Choppin Onions]

"Nothing wrong with our squad" The average age of our starting lineups is probably 32 years old. I'd say there's a lot wrong with that right there. Last years squad under Strama were just glad to be free of the retarded regime of first Gasp and then Ranieri, hence the better football. But they've come back down to earth as the huge minutes our old guard plays has really taken its toll on them. Cuchi for instance, has been steadily declining since the Juve game.

 

[.h.]

Indeed. There is plenty wrong with the squad, which is why, for me at least, Strama is above blame right now.

 

[Pajo]

The average age of our starting 11 is still much lower than last year tho...

Handa (28) - Cesar (33)
Rano (24) - Lucio (33)
Juan (21) - Chivu (31)
Cassano (30) - Forlan (33)

Also Maicon was 31, Naga/Pereira 26..

 

[Pimpin]

add Guarin to that..

+ JZ is 39 (atleast on paper) so he makes the team year avg a bit higher..

 

[Caecuban]

"Nothing wrong with our squad" The average age of our starting lineups is probably 32 years old. I'd say there's a lot wrong with that right there. Last years squad under Strama were just glad to be free of the retarded regime of first Gasp and then Ranieri, hence the better football. But they've come back down to earth as the huge minutes our old guard plays has really taken its toll on them. Cuchi for instance, has been steadily declining since the Juve game.

just for reference

Handa 28
Juan 21
Rano 24
Samuel 34
JZ 39
Naga 26
Guaro 26
Cambiasso 32
Milito 33
Cassano 30
Palacio 30

avg = 29,4


actually only samuel, jz, cambiasso and milito are over 30 (with cassano and palacio barely), its not that bad. the issue is that we dont have a reasonable bench, so we are forced to play everybody even against small teams like pescara, siena, etc.