2023/2024 Forwards Rumours Thread

[RotterdamNerazzurri]

Martial is 15M Arnautovic is 20M. Inter are ready to 20M overpay for Arnautovic, so why should Inter say no to pay Martial whose is cheaper?

I think the wages of Martial are way bigger than those of Arnautovic. Also I don't think we are gonna pay anywhere near close to 20 mln for Arnautovic. At least, I should hope so....

 

[Wobblz]

That issue is not just about us not having the money to compete with those teams, it also comes from us being slow, uncreative and prefering the safe experienced options instead of being more daring. This will burn down opportunities when they arise. We tend to hesitate when a talented youngster is at our reach and we lose the chance.

For example Julian Alvarez was available for 20-25m 2 years ago. We preferred to go for other (ready) options and you know the rest of story. Now we have the same case with Orban and Taremi/Arnautovic and I expect the same scenario happening again.

When you can't financially compete with many clubs out there, you need to be opportunist. But we're neither rich nor opportunist and that acts as a double blow on us.

Exactly. Atalanta is where they are because they trust their scouts to unearth the proper profiles and develop them into their system. We can't say we don't have money - we've outspent Atalanta tens of times in the last ten years, yet we've only won one Scudetto and some cups.

Look at Napoli. They bought a couple of relatively unknown players in the last couple of years while doing a massive revitalisation of the squad. Didn't spend that crazy money, yet now they have a squad that is probably on par with ours in terms of assets. Kim, Khvicha, Osimhen... that's 300M right there.

Let's face it - nobody cares about Coppas and Supercoppas. Nobody even cares that we were lucky enough to participate in the CL final. We had no chance. Yet, Atalanta is making profits and almost constantly in European spots while selling their best players yearly. Napoli has won as many Scudettos as we did in the last decade...

We are currently locked into thinking we're in the good ol' Moratti days of being a financial powerhouse. We are not and should've moved to a more Napoli/Atalanta-like model a couple of years ago already. Like it or not, the EPL owns European football. No one can compete. Without a stadium, our best bet is to sell and buy players smartly. Yet we are trying to be competitive, getting people with absolutely no resale value, which keeps us somewhat competitive, but it can only continue for so long. This isn't a valuable business model for us.

Getting 34-year-olds for 20-30M... trying to compete right now. Yeah, it might work for a couple more years, but we can't build on that. Getting 4-5 young players, like Samardzic, that we can sell two or three of them for massive profit in a few years is the way to go. Trust me, it pains me to I have to look at it this way, but this is the situation we're in right now. Hell, the reason we're afloat so far is that we've sold our best young players. Hakimi, could've actually sold Skriniar, Onana. And next year, yeah, probably we'll have to sell Lautaro, Bastoni, or Barella.

This is why I was a fan of getting someone like Balogun. If he flops, yeah, he has no resale value. But does Taremi or Arnautovic, who are marginally cheaper? If he booms, we have an 80M player on our hands. Rinse and repeat. Maybe once in a blue moon, we can have a good run in the CL and actually try to win it when the stars align, and we've somehow kept a decent core.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Martial is 15M Arnautovic is 20M. Inter are ready to 20M overpay for Arnautovic, so why should Inter say no to pay Martial whose is cheaper?

Where did you read Inter is ready to pay 20m for Arnautovic? I missed that one.

 

[dynasty27]

Inter, Arnautovic's return is becoming more concrete. The Taremi track remains standing, even if it is very complicated given the costs of the operation. Balogun and Beto now out of sight.
@SkySport

 

[Stefan]

This dude has a point, our budget is constantly shifting depending on a striker we are trying to get, almost like we are sabotaging ourselves, which is inexcusable this late in the mercato. It was well over a month ago the whole lukaku fiasco happened, we had more than enough time to figure out what we want, and yet we look like all of that happened just yesterday.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689881065765093376

It's not about budget. It's about how much they value each player at.

We do seem very confused regarding the forward situation. Seems there was no real plan b for Lukaku

 

[Corrode]

Where did you read Inter is ready to pay 20m for Arnautovic? I missed that one.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689884922037604353

Translation: Bologna request for Arnautovic is 20 M. Inter: we will try to satisfy it.

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689884922037604353

Translation: Bologna request for Arnautovic is 20 M. Inter: we will try to satisfy it.

Inter fans better block this stupid shit, like the United fans did.

 

[Strale]

I don't mind Arnautovic...for 5mil

I'm starting to panic a little bit....

 

[Materazzi_23]

In hindsight, Morata doesn't seem to have been as bad as I initially thought.

 

[Batman]

We need both Arnautovic and Taremi

 

[IM21]

Arautovic won't go under 15M, as Bologna needs money... These kind of deals should have happened during the first weeks of the transfer window, when we also should have got rid of Correa... Now we are fucked.

Like is said more than a month ago, Morata would have been the best option.

 

[varmin]

unpopular oppinion: if Scamacca is worth 30, Arna is worth 15. Of course i don't say that we should get him, but at least we would save 15M, get a defender and a player from the simliar level of Scamacca but just with more experience and not that expensive.. PERSONALLY i prefered Morata for 20M and i don't understand why they don't got him, there are not much alternatives for a good price and quality, he was at least decent imo.

EDIT!!!: didnt know that Arna was THAT OLD, holly shit well then i don't know if thats worth it, but it remains stupid as the scamacca deal yeah

Arnautivic is 34. He has at most 2 good seasons left in him. Scamacca is 24. Huge difference here.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

We need to stay away from both Arnautovic and Taremi

Fixed.

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

these names are not inciting excitement

 

[vex]

We need both Arnautovic and Taremi

As i v said earlier, I don't have problem with arna if another striker comes. But arna alone as an attack reinforcement for a cl finalist is an embarrassment imo.

 

[Glass box]

Fuck off with that 20m for Arnautovic. He is 34 ffs, you can't just sign any striker and call it a job done. Morata could've been signed for the same money and is 4 years younger at least.

 

[DiegoMilito22]

I don't mind Arnautovic...for 5mil

I'm starting to panic a little bit....

Bologna rejected €8 million + Sensi

 

[StefanNedelchev]

after the arnautovic rumours, suddenly morata deal dont sound that bad lol

 

[Jusef]

Considering the circumstances, the Martial idea isn’t bad. Martial is a talented player but maybe has attitude problems. I say maybe because everyone at ManU, from that group of players under Mourinho had attitude problems.

 

[andrei]

Exactly. Atalanta is where they are because they trust their scouts to unearth the proper profiles and develop them into their system. We can't say we don't have money - we've outspent Atalanta tens of times in the last ten years, yet we've only won one Scudetto and some cups.

Look at Napoli. They bought a couple of relatively unknown players in the last couple of years while doing a massive revitalisation of the squad. Didn't spend that crazy money, yet now they have a squad that is probably on par with ours in terms of assets. Kim, Khvicha, Osimhen... that's 300M right there.

Let's face it - nobody cares about Coppas and Supercoppas. Nobody even cares that we were lucky enough to participate in the CL final. We had no chance. Yet, Atalanta is making profits and almost constantly in European spots while selling their best players yearly. Napoli has won as many Scudettos as we did in the last decade...

We are currently locked into thinking we're in the good ol' Moratti days of being a financial powerhouse. We are not and should've moved to a more Napoli/Atalanta-like model a couple of years ago already. Like it or not, the EPL owns European football. No one can compete. Without a stadium, our best bet is to sell and buy players smartly. Yet we are trying to be competitive, getting people with absolutely no resale value, which keeps us somewhat competitive, but it can only continue for so long. This isn't a valuable business model for us.

Getting 34-year-olds for 20-30M... trying to compete right now. Yeah, it might work for a couple more years, but we can't build on that. Getting 4-5 young players, like Samardzic, that we can sell two or three of them for massive profit in a few years is the way to go. Trust me, it pains me to I have to look at it this way, but this is the situation we're in right now. Hell, the reason we're afloat so far is that we've sold our best young players. Hakimi, could've actually sold Skriniar, Onana. And next year, yeah, probably we'll have to sell Lautaro, Bastoni, or Barella.

This is why I was a fan of getting someone like Balogun. If he flops, yeah, he has no resale value. But does Taremi or Arnautovic, who are marginally cheaper? If he booms, we have an 80M player on our hands. Rinse and repeat. Maybe once in a blue moon, we can have a good run in the CL and actually try to win it when the stars align, and we've somehow kept a decent core.

Yes, my man, you are right. I wrote the same things over and over again. Inter need a new modus operandi. Exactly what Atalanta and Napoli make. And what Milan is now trying to do. Sooner or later we will need to do it. Because there is no other options. England is the powerhouse who owns the Europe even if some here refuse to aknowledge (@Brehme). Italy is weak economically, we don`t own our stadium, TV revenues shit and under these circumstances the sponsors won`t commit huge money. So even if a healthy owner will come (the new sugar daddy on the white horse - the wet dream of many here) it won`t change the outcome. We need to be like Atalanta or Napoli. Just simple as that.

But you know what this means? We need a change of personal, mentality and how we operate.
We need a new scouting system (Ausilio from my side can fuck off) and more importantly a new development system. A new U23 team in lower league or a combination of coownership or something like that in a lower league in Europe (Schweiz, Holland, Denmark, Belgium) where we can develop our players.
And most importantly, the coach must need to develop players. This must be a priority at the same level with results. Otherwise they will play the old farts before the kids. This can be made just simple not allowing the coach to pick the players (like Spalletti with N9). There was an interview with Lotito when he says that he asks Sari to tell him what postions and type of plyers he needs but not names. This is a right approach.


You story is a bit flowless here when you say we won only a scudetto even we outspent heavily Atalanta and Napoli. Don`t forget this is due to Juventus imploded. Had Marotta stayed at Juventus I have no doubt they would have been even now champions. Exactly like Bayern in Bundesliga. They stated they cycle in the same year, but Juventus stopped at 9 consecutive scudettos (thanks God) but Bayern are already at the 12th consecutive win. With Marotta at Juventus, Serie A would be exactly like Bundesliga. Napoli under Sari won more points than this scudetto year under Spalletti, but Juventus was too strong and deep.