2012/2013 Managers Rumors Thread

[Universe]

Strange shit.

 

[.h.]

the guy was mourinho at youth level. excellent tactically, set the team up well, very well disciplined, but let them have some creative freedom. knew how to absorb pressure, knew how to dominate play... everything was there... perserverence and faith in his formation even if it didnt seem to go so well... all that is gone now

 

[Universe]

Like I said in another thread, seems to me that the only possible explanation is pressure. Strama was touted as a phenom in the primavera. For him to fail this hard and in such a manner is just inexplicable.

 

[.h.]

well, i dont want to get into arguing causes, but there clearly has to be something.

i personally think there is a big issue with the media. he was too friendly with them, very "jokey" all the time, even off camera, and - not the sole cause - this contributed. I mean he goes from a nobody to one of the biggest names in Italy overnight... stardom burn out

 

[apahllo]

debuting-then-burning people like Kovacic and Benassi, repeated use of players out of position... Strama is a huge problem at Inter... Selling Coutinho and then suddenly swapping to a formation that really could do with him, for example, is a disaster. Not developing any young talent at all - instead, choosing to play the oldest...

You did well to highlight how he has no trust for youth players when that is what he was brought in to do. I just don't want to lose another talented player like Duncan or benassi because this guy want some other random to be the new bench warming talent..
Fucking coutinho. This is going to be a legendary fail in the transfer market, he is doing so well in Liverpool.
There's no telling what happened to the strama that shat all over milan and with confidence oozing out of his ears but obviously he is in way over his head and is now fighting an uphill battle.

 

[wambam]

You did well to highlight how he has no trust for youth players when that is what he was brought in to do. I just don't want to lose another talented player like Duncan or benassi because this guy want some other random to be the new bench warming talent..
Fucking coutinho. This is going to be a legendary fail in the transfer market, he is doing so well in Liverpool.
There's no telling what happened to the strama that shat all over milan and with confidence oozing out of his ears but obviously he is in way over his head and is now fighting an uphill battle.

The first part of that sentence is why I'm so hesitant about him. He's made it obvious during his year and a half of involvement with Inter that he knows what he's doing, yet he's also gotten us into this rut which would take two Mourinhos, a few Matterazzis, and a team full of Zanettis a year to get out of.

On current form, he's quite possibly the worst coach in Serie A. He doesn't seem to be training the team at all, he doesn't listen to his tactical intuition, he just sorta puts players on the field and watches the game unfold. It's like he just wanders into the locker room, gives each player a high five and lollipop, and says "Remember kids, there are no losers when you have fun!!! But seriously bros, if you win, I'll cut you with a hacksaw"

Still, there's a great coach in there somewhere. The question is, can he show up again at Inter, or is this too toxic an environment? If there's any glimmer of hope of the guy who was in charge of the winning streak coming back, I'd even back him through next season.

Ps, nobody try to question my faith in his tactical intelligence. There is a high risk of this leading into an argument which will cut into precious studying time, leading to me winning the argument because he's a tactical mastermind, but failing both my midterms on Friday. Just trust that I'm right, because I am.

 

[Miles]

Keep Strama ffs. I saw a pretty interesting stat the other day; Strama has a near perfect record with the hole team at his disposition. I know a coach is supposed to know how to cope with injuries but this will come with experience that Strama has yet to acquire. If we let him leave we'll regret it.

 

[.h.]

You did well to highlight how he has no trust for youth players when that is what he was brought in to do. I just don't want to lose another talented player like Duncan or benassi because this guy want some other random to be the new bench warming talent..
Fucking coutinho. This is going to be a legendary fail in the transfer market, he is doing so well in Liverpool.
There's no telling what happened to the strama that shat all over milan and with confidence oozing out of his ears but obviously he is in way over his head and is now fighting an uphill battle.

see, this is another interesting point. we're looking at swapping - apparently - duncan in part of the icardi deal. i think thats one of the most retarded things ever. we debuted benassi, then disappeared him just as quickly. kovacic plays less and less Serie A by the week, yet he was brought in for more money than any other player this season.

Keep Strama ffs. I saw a pretty interesting stat the other day; Strama has a near perfect record with the hole team at his disposition. I know a coach is supposed to know how to cope with injuries but this will come with experience that Strama has yet to acquire. If we let him leave we'll regret it.

and when was the last time we had a whole team available? the troll win streak. We werent much weaker after that, either. But the most important thing is that there has been no improvement.

Plus, whose really missing? As far as I can see, its Samuel and Milito from the first team. Thats pretty much it.

 

[rockball]

Agree with browha, that Strama has shown no improvement in the season, no cohesion and stuff. But also consider that currently he only has a group of about 15 players to choose from, many of which are mediocre and many are old. I don't expect any improvement from now on till end of season, and let's not be disappointed by that.

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Also you have to be kidding with wanting Bielsa. I'm sure he will be a colossal failure here.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

Starma can be good coach, but he isn't right now and we need good and proven coach right now. Lucesco is my favorite, LB is also good.

 

[.h.]

i believe strama could still be a good coach, given time to develop in Serie B - much like many of our youth players. After 3-5 years, he could be quite an interesting prospect if he can retain the skill level he displayed at primavera level.

Is there any way we can loan him out? For the long run I'd like to keep him actually - but hes clearly not the guy we need for the short to medium term.

 

[Batman]

Well IMO he will certainly stay this season, no matter how the the results go.

And it's wrong to blame the injuries tbh, imo our current available players are more than capable to beat teams such as Bologna and Catania easily, and at least "compete" with teams like Tottenham.

 

[I4E]

What's Strama's win percentage ? Overall as Inter manager and this season alone.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

What's Strama's win percentage ? Overall as Inter manager and this season alone.

Overall as Inter manager: 52 games - 28W, 10D, 15L - 60% (94/156 points).
This season alone: 44 games - 23W, 8D, 13L - 58%.
Only Serie A this season: 28 games - 14W, 5D, 9L - 56%.

 

[I4E]

Overall as Inter manager: 52 games - 28W, 10D, 15L - 60% (94/156 points).
This season alone: 44 games - 23W, 8D, 13L - 58%.
Only Serie A this season: 28 games - 14W, 5D, 9L - 56%.

:notbad:

If its not too much JZ<3, could you run the same stats for Mou, Leo and Benitez please ? Not interested in Gasp or Ranier (they had less desirable players at their disposal, just like Strama).

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

:notbad:

If its not too much JZ<3, could you run the same stats for Mou, Leo and Benitez please ? Not interested in Gasp or Ranier (they had less desirable players at their disposal, just like Strama).

It's all from Inter's archive - here:
Mou:
Overall as Inter's manager: 108 games - 68W, 25D, 15L - 70%.
08/09: 51 games - 31W, 12D, 8L - 69%.
only Serie A 08/09: 38 games - 25W, 9D, 4L - 74%.
09/10: 57 games - 37W, 13D, 7L - 72.5%.
Only Serie A 09/10: 38 games - 24W, 10D, 4L - 72%.

Benitez:
Overall as Inter's manager: 25 games - 12W, 6D, 7L - 56%.
Only in Serie A 10/11: 15 games - 6W, 5D, 4L - 51%.

Leo:
Overall as Inter's manager: 32 games - 22W, 3D, 7L - 72%.
Only Serie A 2010/11: 23 games - 17W, 2D, 4L - 77%.

 

[sanka]

Stramenitez :notbad:

 

[I4E]

Good work JZ<3. Appreciated very much. :thumbsup:

Just a general question (to entice discussion). Taking our current squad and situation (including injuries), would Mou, Benitez or Leo (who are all far more experienced than Strama) make much of a difference ? (I have no doubt Mou would but hey, he's a top 3 manager in the world).

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

Good work JZ<3. Appreciated very much. :thumbsup:

Just a general question (to entice discussion). Taking our current squad and situation (including injuries), would Mou, Benitez or Leo (who are all far more experienced than Strama) make much of a difference ? (I have no doubt Mou would but hey, he's a top 3 manager in the world).

I'm sure they wouldn't, but Benitez sucks and we can see that at Chelsea(they have great squad) and Leo wasn't a good coach, he just made the team happy and more committed. The point is they both are not good coach's.

 

[Ziyad]

Leo for the small games and Strama for the derbies...