Folarin Balogun

CafeCordoba · Aug 8, 2023

.h. said:
we did, to be fair. We loaned him out for like 3? seasons to reduce his overall book cost to what a club would be willing to pay for him, and then sold him out at a flat cost. Gabigol was by any measure an unmitigated disaster for Inter.

Not in the same sense as someone like Joao Mario or Nainggolan. We got like 17-18m for Gabigol. We had to buy out Nainggolan and got like 4m back for Joao Mario (via Pastorello who we owed that money).

qb4ever_2k · Aug 8, 2023

varmin said:
but that will be enough to get some small profit and to reinvest in some other target, if there's a such available.

This is the most important part, I don't know why people think the management already has in mind who exactly to sell next summer while the truth is everything will depend on market opportunities.

Sawyer · Aug 8, 2023

Or we buy him, keep him and he stays a long time like Toro and the 5m or 20% mean nothing.

Then only people saying he might fail are people here, any coaches staff etc say he's special.

Gal · Aug 8, 2023

qb4ever_2k said:
This is the most important part, I don't know why people think the management already has in mind who exactly to sell next summer while the truth is everything will depend on market opportunities.

Well that and Zhang is in the deep with the Oaktree loan due next summer. He will probably sell half the team if that is what it takes to keep the club.

Jane The Virgin · Aug 8, 2023

In order for Inter to see a profit when we sell him with the 20% future transfer fee to Arsenal, Balogun needs to score 20+ goals several seasons in a row so he reaches that high market value, right?

Or am I not getting this right? For us to make a profit on him, we must sell him 80m, no?

För him to reach 80m, he needs to surpass everyones expectations.

qb4ever_2k · Aug 8, 2023

Jane The Virgin said:
In order for Inter to see a profit when we sell him with the 20% future transfer fee to Arsenal, Balogun needs to score 20+ goals several seasons in a row so he reaches that high market value, right?

Or am I not getting this right? For us to make a profit on him, we must sell him 80m, no?

För him to reach 80m, he needs to surpass everyones expectations.

He will be worth 100m if he scores 20 goals next season. That will make his 2nd season in a row performing at high level, and he's a young English striker after all.

Black Knight · Aug 8, 2023

Jane The Virgin said:
In order for Inter to see a profit when we sell him with the 20% future transfer fee to Arsenal, Balogun needs to score 20+ goals several seasons in a row so he reaches that high market value, right?

Or am I not getting this right? For us to make a profit on him, we must sell him 80m, no?

För him to reach 80m, he needs to surpass everyones expectations.

To make a book profit, which is what matters more in our case (I think), it depends on how long he's been with us when it comes to selling him. If he's done a few years with us, his remaining value will most likely be much lower than whatever we've paid for him, so it should not be too difficult to get some profit from him. Unless he flops badly.

.h. · Aug 8, 2023

Jane The Virgin said:
In order for Inter to see a profit when we sell him with the 20% future transfer fee to Arsenal, Balogun needs to score 20+ goals several seasons in a row so he reaches that high market value, right?

Or am I not getting this right? For us to make a profit on him, we must sell him 80m, no?

För him to reach 80m, he needs to surpass everyones expectations.

Nah not as strict as that. If we sold him for 45m 20% to arsenal is 9m so we make like 1m total profit forgetting amortisation. Anything above that just increases our profit.

Hikonyán · Aug 8, 2023

Jane The Virgin said:
For us to make a profit on him, we must sell him 80m, no?

I'd really love to read the math you are doing here.

.h. · Aug 8, 2023

Hikonyán said:
I'd really love to read the math you are doing here.

If I had to guess, the math is that at 80m, 20% to Arsenal means our "net cost" is 51m to Inter and the fee we get in total is 54m so we are 3m profit. But of course that's double counting the 16m - same as the hotel receptionist 3x10 dollar quiz with the missing dollar.

qb4ever_2k · Aug 8, 2023

Gal said:
Well that and Zhang is in the deep with the Oaktree loan due next summer. He will probably sell half the team if that is what it takes to keep the club.

Better cancel Samardzic deal when we still can and srat checking Sassuolo's return policy for Frattesi then..

IM21 · Aug 8, 2023

just fucking offer 30+5M bonuses and 5-10% resale value and be done with it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1688872774020767745

Darth_Ausilio · Aug 8, 2023

qb4ever_2k said:
Better cancel Samardzic deal when we still can and srat checking Sassuolo's return policy for Frattesi then..

It’s been more than two weeks so no cash back, but we can get credit.
Hmmm, Defrel and Consigli would suit us…

Sawyer · Aug 8, 2023

qb4ever_2k said:
He will be worth 100m if he scores 20 goals next season. That will make his 2nd season in a row performing at high level, and he's a young English striker after all.

Unfortunately he's American once he leaves the epl that market value drops! Irony.

Nothing · Aug 8, 2023

If he's worth 100m next season we will sell him for 60m

ChillBro · Aug 8, 2023

Some of you are taking it too literal what i said. Maybe it isn't a 1 year flip. The point is, we are in the hunt for this guy not because of his football skills but because we thought/think we can get him under his actual value and then sell him for a profit. And im not saying there is anything inherently wrong with that approach.

But spare me the glorification of 1 good season in ligue 1 when like 7 players scored more, equal or slightly less goals than him. He is a risk.

He is a fifa player signing. Sort by potential and look at age. But for a club like us, he is a 40m risk with money we won't have and watching 10minute YouTube videos of him doesn't change that his skill set, even though promising, isn't what we actually need.

Hikonyán · Aug 8, 2023

ChillBro said:
The point is, we are in the hunt for this guy not because of his football skills but because we thought/think we can get him under his actual value and then sell him for a profit.

This is complete nonsense. The entire thought of a high % future sales in itself speaks against it. No club in their right mind buys a player with that intent, unless its a free transfer.

The statement in itself doesnt even make sense, its some kinda hilarious reverse logic. For Inter to sell Balogun with a profit in the future, Balogun would have to be a success, meaning performing and scoring. For him to score and perform he requires skills and developing his potential.

So Obviously if Inter buys him its because they believe he has the skills and potential to be a succes at the club. Ofcourse his value will rise if he becomes as a succes, but why would we sell him if he becomes a succes, unless they have to.

Saying this transfer is somekinda quick scheme to make a buck, doesnt abide with any sort of logic. Because to make a buck he needs to be a succes and then it makes no sense to make the buck of him.

qb4ever_2k · Aug 8, 2023

ChillBro said:
Some of you are taking it too literal what i said. Maybe it isn't a 1 year flip. The point is, we are in the hunt for this guy not because of his football skills but because we thought/think we can get him under his actual value and then sell him for a profit. And im not saying there is anything inherently wrong with that approach.

But spare me the glorification of 1 good season in ligue 1 when like 7 players scored more, equal or slightly less goals than him. He is a risk.

He is a fifa player signing. Sort by potential and look at age. But for a club like us, he is a 40m risk with money we won't have and watching 10minute YouTube videos of him doesn't change that his skill set, even though promising, isn't what we actually need.

There's one thing very wrong with such approach, you can't sell a player without football skills for shit. Age doesn't matter if he isn't good.

We need quality first and foremost, then the opportunities for a sale will happen naturally. Just like when people were freak out because we were signing Lukaku for the first time, they worried that he wouldn't have any resale value. We sold him 2 years later for 115m. Imagine what would have happened if had gone with younger options for the sake of resale e.g. Moussa Dembele, Luka Jovic...

armendsh · Aug 8, 2023

qb4ever_2k said:
There's one thing very wrong with such approach, you can't sell a player without football skills for shit. Age doesn't matter if he isn't good.

We need quality first and foremost, then the opportunities for a sale will happen naturally. Just like when people were freak out because we were signing Lukaku for the first time, they worried that he wouldn't have any resale value. We sold him 2 years later for 115m. Imagine what would have happened if had gone with younger options for the sake of resale e.g. Moussa Dembele, Luka Jovic...

Even fukin Vlahovic now has worse value than he had a year a go

ChillBro · Aug 8, 2023

Hikonyán said:
This is complete nonsense. The entire thought of a high % future sales in itself speaks against it. No club in their right mind buys a player with that intent, unless its a free transfer.

The statement in itself doesnt even make sense, its some kinda hilarious reverse logic. For Inter to sell Balogun with a profit in the future, Balogun would have to be a success, meaning performing and scoring. For him to score and perform he requires skills and developing his potential.

So Obviously if Inter buys him its because they believe he has the skills and potential to be a succes at the club. Ofcourse his value will rise if he becomes as a succes, but why would we sell him if he becomes a succes, unless they have to.

Saying this transfer is somekinda quick scheme to make a buck, doesnt abide with any sort of logic. Because to make a buck he needs to be a succes and then it makes no sense to make the buck of him.

Reading comprehension. I didn't say he has no football talent. I said his appeal to a certain faction of the inter hierarchy is not because he has a complementary skill set to what we lack in our forwards...but because they view him as a good business proposition. I also said there is nothing wrong with that. We have literally been doing that to players the last few years.

In the 10 minutes of youtube clips you have watched, what convinces you that he can function in a dzeko or lukaku type capacity? That is what inzaghi is looking for.

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