Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Is Zlatan Ibrahimovic a world class player ?


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The Don

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Being a Barca fan is just the easiest thing right now.:star:

true. those who started supporting Barca from last year or this year wont taste the same pleasure we have tasted. the happiest Barca fans are probably those who sticked with the team during the late 90's and early 00's when the club went on on 6 trophyless seasons. every team has its time and Im just glad that this is our time, hopefully we'll continue making history by winning the CL in the Bernabeu :D
 

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I really don't understand how this bloke is part of La Grande Inter.

Yeah because it was not like he was one of the best Inter players in the last decade or something? :wallbang:
 

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Yeah because it was not like he was one of the best Inter players in the last decade or something? :wallbang:

A decade is 10 years long... Inter has been around for 100 years. Ibra spent 3 years here...:rollani:
 
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Barcelona had pathetic years in 2003 or so, so it's not so easy to be a Barça fan. It's all about cycles, they have a good one, maybe theyre pathetic in 3 years.
 

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Barcelona had pathetic years in 2003 or so, so it's not so easy to be a Barça fan. It's all about cycles, they have a good one, maybe theyre pathetic in 3 years.

Thank you, exactly...It's not like all these years have been like they've been the last couple...The same BS that has afflicted other big clubs were present at Barca for many seasons and it's only recently that the club has experienced the renaissance that it's presently going through...Never know when it will end but I for one want to enjoy it however long it lasts
 

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That's why I spoke about "right now". I don't want to contradict you guys or start a discussion about this topic, but thanks for your (Barca fans') thoughts on that though.
 

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That's why I spoke about "right now". I don't want to contradict you guys or start a discussion about this topic, but thanks for your (Barca fans') thoughts on that though.

And I won't dwell on this point but the intimation was that somehow it's some mob of bandwagon fans that have jumped on Barca...That will always be the case when things are going well (I'm sure Inter has picked up more now that they have advanced this far in CL) because everyone loves a frontrunner...However, that's a far cry from saying that it's been easy being a Barca fan...Every club has it's dip and Barca has had their fare share of mediocrity
 

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I really don't understand how this bloke is part of La Grande Inter.

We had great players like Ronaldo, Vieri, Djorkaeff etc. but Ibra won scudetoo for us and that's fact.

He's the most decisive Inter player in last decade, J.Zanetti is institution and after him Ibracadabra.
 

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Interesting read, for those who are interested:

It’s official; Big Ibra will always give away more fouls than little Leo


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With many still debating the qualities of FC Barcelona forward Zlatan Ibrahimovic, there appears to be one thing both cheerleader and nay-sayer can agree upon, and that is the amount of fouls the striker gives away.

Since his record-breaking transfer from Inter Milan in the summer, there is something the Swede has done more regularly than anything else and that is concede free-kicks. Whether it be in the air, on the ground, or even in the process of scoring goals, the lanky forward seems to have the knack for fouling.

So far this season, Ibra has given away an astonishing 72 fouls in 37 appearances for Barcelona. Compare that with Valencia’s David Villa who has played 36 games for Valencia, conceding 43 fouls in the process. Or even Ibra’s Barca colleague Lionel Messi who has played 43 games for Barca this season, conceding just 32 fouls.

Now it would be nice to see such stats as nothing more than an unfair advantage given to Villa and Messi, and thanks to official research we now can!

A group of academics from the Rotterdam school of Management in the Netherlands have researched the human tendency to connect size with strength and aggression, studying more than 100,000 fouls in domestic, European and International football. They found that taller players are more likely to be penalised by referees than their shorter counterparts.

So Ibra, who is 6′3, is much more likely to be deemed to be committing a foul, rather than little Leo or David Villa who stand at 5′7 and 5′9 respectively. Considering the amount of disallowed goals the Swede has to his name for fouls on defenders and goalkeepers so far this season, it seems such judgments may well end up effecting more than just the striker’s fouls conceded stats come the end of the season.

To test their hypothesis, the researchers set up panels of football fans who were shown mocked-up images of two players going in for a challenge; the panels then had to speculate on who would end up coming off worse from the tackle. The clear result being that the taller of the two players would more often than not be deemed to be the aggressor in most circumstances.

“You will always get moments in a game when the situation isn’t very clear and the referee has got to make a fast decision. This is where assumptions could influence them,” said Steffen Giessner, one of the co-authors of the research.

“There are, of course, lots of causes and effects taking place here. There is an effect with height, but we can’t say precisely how strong it is.”

The study, which was inspired by Geissner’s co-author, Niels van Quaquebeke, who as a keen amateur basketball player got the impression he was rarely penalised for fouls he committed due to his relative lack of height, found that players who were between 6cm and 10cm taller than their opponents were blamed for almost 60% of fouls.

“It’s very much about visible height difference. The effect is much stronger the greater the differences in height,” said van Quaquebeke.

Although the researchers claimed that this effect may come down to the dominance of tall defenders fouling shorter forwards, in Ibra’s case the hypothesis doesn’t stand up, what with him often being as tall, if not taller, than the centre-backs he comes up against. But with the data from the research also showing that most fouls in a game are committed by shorter midfield players, then perhaps there is another reason for Ibra giving away so many needless free-kicks. Perhaps he is just as slow and clumsy as his critics suggest? Or perhaps, as a taller player, he is naturally more aggresive?

It’s hard to tell, but with so many free kicks conceded, often for almost invisible indiscretions, it would surely seem that Zlatan is often on the wrong-end of some sort of prejudice from referees, wouldn’t it?

But of course with the rough comes the smooth. If Ibra gives away far too many fouls, then Messi more than makes up for it with the number of fouls he gets given in his favour. In the 43 games Messi has played this season, he has been fouled 102 times (by official stats that is), whilst Ibra has been fouled 40 times in his 37 appearances. So maybe we shouldn’t complain too much. Should Ibra be eternally doomed to concede cheap free-kicks then Messi is eternally blessed to receive them. As such it would seem the good grace more than evens itself out.

Still it must be frustrating for Ibrahimovic to be permanently judged to be fouling those around him just because of his size and style of play, so maybe we should be a little more forgiving when he lets his petulance get the better of him from time to time. He’s a big softy really, who just wants a few decisions to go his way from time to time. Unfortunately, if this research is anything to go by, it seems there is little he can do to clean up his act.


Post-script

For the stat fans amongst us, Ibra’s predecessor at Barcelona, Samuel Eto’o, who stands at 5′9”, has given away 45 fouls in 37 games this season, and has been awarded 52 fouls. Last season he played in 49 games for Barca giving away 36 fouls, and picking up 49 free-kicks. This may make for interesting reading what with Samu’s constant chasing and closing down of defenders, but it’s the bottom line that counts with strikers and that bottom line is goals. Eto’o has 47 goals over the last two seasons in club competition, Ibra has 49, so perhaps the Swede shouldn’t feel quite so bad about that huge amount of fouls he gives away.
 

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Wow even I would accept that... 'twould be nice to see the Swede warming the benches hear like Balotelli did. :)
 

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haha i came across that aswell. pretty interesting. possibly one of the only massive player exchange we'll get plus money for balo. we'd be paying on top if we were to move for fabregas. this deal sounds too good to be true

ibra plus 30 - 35 euros?? really?????

somebody shake me aha

They won the FA Cup comfortably if I remember.

I think Arsenal led the EPL until the 2nd last round of the season though
 
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Ibra plus 30-35 for Balo? Do it Moratti.
 

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No. I would rather give them Balotelli for free. I love Zlatan as a player but we really can do without that attitude here. Don't you guys see the bonhomie and spirit in the team?
 

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It would be more believable if it was Balotelli +30 million for Ibra, but even that would be ridiculous. I doubt Ibra is going anywhere. Silly season has begun I guess.
 

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In Gods grace who would even give 30mil for Balo alone?
 

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In Gods grace who would even give 30mil for Balo alone?

If balotelli scored the winner in the CL final, Real would;)
 
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Haha, ridiculous stuff. Why are some journalists allowed to write?
 

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Honestly, though we should go for Pedro. He's done so much more for Barcelona this season in so much less time.
 
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