Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[Universe]

I can't imagine how many "fuck you Ibra"s we will see if we knock Barca out.

 

[pazzainteramala]

What has he said?? Is it wrong to say Barca play better football than Inter??!

I'm not saying he is 100% right in whatever he does, but he deserves some respect for where this team is currently, just a little respect.

i respect ibra 100 percent he was my fav player when he was with us.. i just think he will celebrate IMO

 

[A.l.i]

i respect ibra 100 percent he was my fav player when he was with us.. i just think he will celebrate IMO

He definitely will if he scores that is, how can one have any doubts on this? Ibra is Ibra

 

[rockball]

I think he will start crying and get on his knees in front of Curva.

 

[Styrke]

I think he will start crying and get on his knees in front of Curva.

Ibra cry? come on.

 

[Besnik]

He doesn't have a face to cry..

 

[dynasty27]

if he scores...

he will embrace Materazzi.

 

[A.l.i]

he will embrace Materazzi.

Headbutt you mean?

 

[dynasty27]

Headbutt you mean?

yea i was searching for the right word. you got it, thanks.

 

[FCBarca]

Shame but appears as if the big swede will miss out on the Clasico, ruled out due to thigh injury and was not part of Pep's initial squad list

 

[Rimpel]

I just showed you that "contribution which was immense and that is undeniable" is irrelavant in specific cases, and that it's not always alfa and Omega.

The question can be the "border" when the person looses this safety coat, but this is a personal margin for every person

Goddamn man, give it a rest.

 

[sergiu.inter]

C'mon mate.. you are saying that even Cruz or Martins would be as good as Ibra was as our player?? simply, NO. He did fantastic job for us, he did the biggest contribution that we won three scudetti when he was our player.

And for a note, what Ibra did for us, none of Crespo, Cruz, Martins would do like him.. Ibra is talent, genius, legend, call him how you want, but do not deny his contribution for us.

In another note, if you want to talk for goals, just a little thing: Ibra scored fantastic goal, almost every his goal was EURO goal.. and these goal that Ibra scored, none of Martins, Cruz or whoever you said, wouldn't ever dream for them.

btw, isn't even fair to compare Ibra with Cruz.. Ibra is world class player, while Cruz is bench player.

dude..i get you love him..it your right to respect and love ibra or anyone else...it's just a matter of something else.
i'm not going to continue because it's useless.

some fans love 'genius' players like ibra,messi,maradona,pele,ronaldo,you name them..and they love them for what they do,for they tricks,passes,shots or whatever.

then there are other fans who want something else,and get pissed when players kiss bagdes or other similar stuff - such players like maldini,zanetti,bergomi,u name them,that are not and will never be 'genius' players...but do what those 'geniuses' could never do...

you and many other are in the 1st group,that's fine with me and i understand...now you just have to understand group 2 exists too,and cope with it

 

[Luka]

Goddamn man, give it a rest.

It's not me who started this "very small debate"

 

[vitomins]

no...eto has 2goals more than balotelli and baloteli 3more than stankovic...

whatever you stay,stats you show me or anything else, you can NEVER say he was responsible for our success...he was our main striker...he had to scored goals....if crespo had played,or cruz,or martins,or anyone they would have scored instead of ibra...no heroes,no responsible...just the team did its job.period

what is the picture? i am confused/lost

Ibrahimovic scored 25 out of the 65 total goals out players scored last season (There were 5 own goals last year I believe).

Milito has scored 18 out of the 61 total goals our players scored this year (No own goals as far as I can remember).


Ibrahimovic - 38% of our goals...next highest: Balotelli - 12%
Milito - 30% of our goals...next highest: Eto'o - 16%



So if you still do not get the picture, Ibra scored a higher percentage of our goals and our next highest scorer, Balotelli, scored a smaller percentage than this years second man, Eto'o.

Quite simply, take away Ibra, and we lose almost 40% of our goals. Now don't get me wrong, I don't feel Milito's contribution this year is not special, I just don't think it is as big as Ibra's last year.

However, if those guys want to say "No Ibra - No Scudetto" than I am fine with that, as long as they also say this year "No Milito - No 1st Place". I just posted those numbers to show that Ibra's contribution last year was more than Milito's this season. If you cannot see that, than I am not sure what else to say...

 

[n4l]

Ibrahimovic scored 25 out of the 65 total goals out players scored last season (There were 5 own goals last year I believe).

Milito has scored 18 out of the 61 total goals our players scored this year (No own goals as far as I can remember).


Ibrahimovic - 38% of our goals...next highest: Balotelli - 12%
Milito - 30% of our goals...next highest: Eto'o - 16%



So if you still do not get the picture, Ibra scored a higher percentage of our goals and our next highest scorer, Balotelli, scored a smaller percentage than this years second man, Eto'o.

Quite simply, take away Ibra, and we lose almost 40% of our goals. Now don't get me wrong, I don't feel Milito's contribution this year is not special, I just don't think it is as big as Ibra's last year.

However, if those guys want to say "No Ibra - No Scudetto" than I am fine with that, as long as they also say this year "No Milito - No 1st Place". I just posted those numbers to show that Ibra's contribution last year was more than Milito's this season. If you cannot see that, than I am not sure what else to say...

(1) The season is not done yet
(2) If the season is done today, are you saying that the difference between 38% and 30% is that statistically significant? to me it is not enough of a difference to say that one player is "much more important" than the other
(3) Furthermore, Ibra had 7 assists in total (35 games) while, as of today (7 games to go), milito has 4....

again, if you go on statistics only, the difference between them is not that big.....not as big as some people think it is..

if you go on intangibles, like milito is a new player, new system, new coach, 5 new starters to the team, not the focus of the attack, high workrate e.t.c., then milito's contribution seems pretty big to me

and please, let us stop being facetious....at the end of last season, the team was practically feeding ibra to score so he could win top scorer



it is no discredit to ibra; he contributed a lot to the team



and the point about it is, most of those Ibra FC'ers who say "No Ibra - No Scudetto" will undoubtedly think that we can do without Milito, or more importantly, that Milito is not that important.....

 

[vitomins]

(1) The season is not done yet
(2) If the season is done today, are you saying that the difference between 38% and 30% is that statistically significant? to me it is not enough of a difference to say that one player is "much more important" than the other
(3) Furthermore, Ibra had 7 assists in total (35 games) while, as of today (7 games to go), milito has 4....

again, if you go on statistics only, the difference between them is not that big.....not as big as some people think it is..

if you go on intangibles, like milito is a new player, new system, new coach, 5 new starters to the team, not the focus of the attack, high workrate e.t.c., then milito's contribution seems pretty big to me

and please, let us stop being facetious....at the end of last season, the team was practically feeding ibra to score so he could win top scorer



it is no discredit to ibra; he contributed a lot to the team



and the point about it is, most of those Ibra FC'ers who say "No Ibra - No Scudetto" will undoubtedly think that we can do without Milito, or more importantly, that Milito is not that important.....

Well to you 8% means nothing, but to me, 8% is a very significant difference. The point is, Ibrahimovic scored more goals on a team that had less of a supporting role in goals. This means his goals were more important.

The next highest scorer last year was 17 goals behind Ibra! That is more the double the difference between Milito and Eto'o. I guess I am in between the two groups. I feel that last year we would have no scudetto without Ibra, but I also believe that if we win again this year, it is mostly because of Milito.

And your assists point has no grounds. 7/35 is a higher average than 4/29....

 

[n4l]

Well to you 8% means nothing, but to me, 8% is a very significant difference. The point is, Ibrahimovic scored more goals on a team that had less of a supporting role in goals. This means his goals were more important.

The next highest scorer last year was 17 goals behind Ibra! That is more the double the difference between Milito and Eto'o. I guess I am in between the two groups. I feel that last year we would have no scudetto without Ibra, but I also believe that if we win again this year, it is mostly because of Milito.

i will never say "no ibra no scudetto", true, but more because i value the significant contribution of others...
for example, if i were to say that, then i'd also have to say "no cesar, no scudetto" or "no maicon, no scudetto"

it cannot be viewed in isolation; football is a true team sport in that if Cesar didn't do his job excellently, Ibra's goals may have counted for nothing....
and the converse is also true

edit: for example, Milito scored how much for Genoa last year?? and where did they place?? what about di Natale this year?? how many goals does he have? and I'm pretty sure he's responsible for more than 40% of their goals. What is Udinese's position??

 

[vitomins]

i will never say "no ibra no scudetto", true, but more because i value the significant contribution of others...
for example, if i were to say that, then i'd also have to say "no cesar, no scudetto" or "no maicon, no scudetto"

it cannot be viewed in isolation; football is a true team sport in that if Cesar didn't do his job excellently, Ibra's goals may have counted for nothing....
and the converse is also true

I can understand that. But only a fool would admit that Cesar or Maicon were more important than Ibra.

You can at least admit that he was the most important player last year, right? This does not mean we could have won without Cesar or Maicon, it simply means that he was the most crucial part of our success, and the others were additional parts...

 

[n4l]

I can understand that. But only a fool would admit that Cesar or Maicon were more important than Ibra.

You can at least admit that he was the most important player last year, right? This does not mean we could have won without Cesar or Maicon, it simply means that he was the most crucial part of our success, and the others were additional parts...

i will never say he was 'most' important because he was not...

you fail to realize that defense is equally as important as offense....
the shit goes hand in hand

"most important" and "best player" titles are for fans to oogle over offensive players...

please explain why Udinese does not have the scudetto though di Natale is racking up the goals..

edit: i'm done arguing about Ibra...
somehow, "most important" is something that interests some folks....to me he is not (and we had no 'most important') and to you and the Ibra FC'ers he was....cool with me

 

[vitomins]

i will never say he was 'most' important because he was not...

you fail to realize that defense is equally as important as offense....
the shit goes hand in hand

"most important" and "best player" titles are for fans to oogle over offensive players...

please explain why Udinese does not have the scudetto though di Natale is racking up the goals..

edit: i'm done arguing about Ibra...
somehow, "most important" is something that interests some folks....to me he is not (and we had no 'most important') and to you and the Ibra FC'ers he was....cool with me

For some reason most important player, translates to only important player in your brain.

Wow man, no is saying that our other players were not important last year, but if you honestly believe that Cesar was more important than Ibra or Maicon was more important than Ibra, or even that they were equally as important, than I do not know what to say???

It is nice to believe that every player is equally important to the squad, but that is a fantasy world. In that world, Muntari would be just as important to the squad as Milito or Sneijder this season lol....

And by the way, I am laughing my ass off at you for thinking I am a so-called Ibra FCer after all the shit I have been through with Adam and others...